The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[JB Lions]

Again he makes NO STATEMENT OF FACT, just "you might think its okay that the Russians offered dirt...but I don't"

That holds as much weight as if I said, "You might think it's okay if @JB Lions cheats on his taxes, but I don't" I have not accused you of cheating on your taxes. It does not mean that you cheated on your taxes, but by your reasoning, you must have cheated on your taxes because I made that statement.

None of the non-allegations Schiff makes have a basis in fact or reality. If they did then Mueller, after 2 years and 10's of millions of dollars later would not have issued a "didn't happen"

lol, what in the world are you talking about? It is a statement of fact. When Trump Jr. was busted, he literally posted the emails himself, to try to get in front of it.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/07/politics/donald-trump-jr-full-emails/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...r-meeting-transcripts/?utm_term=.319c0cbbd710

You still haven't taken anything apart. Quote something, take it apart.

 

[NameLlama]

He didn't say IF they had happened lol
He's talking about things that happened
He says "You might think it's okay that X happened",not if someone did X

 

[JB Lions]

Again he makes NO STATEMENT OF FACT, just "you might think its okay that the Russians offered dirt...but I don't" So I guess you are right when you say, When people don't actually use facts, it's wusually because they can't.

That holds as much weight as if I said, "You might think it's okay if @JB Lions cheats on his taxes, but I don't" I have not accused you of cheating on your taxes. It does not mean that you cheated on your taxes, but by your reasoning, you must have cheated on your taxes because I made that statement.

None of the non-allegations Schiff makes have a basis in fact or reality. If they did then Mueller, after 2 years and 10's of millions of dollars later would not have issued a "didn't happen"

Oh................besides the fact Trump admitted it:

Trump says son's Trump Tower meeting with Russians meant to 'get information' on Clinton
“This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics — and it went nowhere,” Trump tweeted.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...rump-tower-meeting-russians-meant-get-n897761

Enjoy the time now, when the full thing gets out there, we'll be going back over this again. Why do you think Trump is all upset about Schiff?

 

[SirDrago]

Why do you think Trump is all upset about Schiff?

Besides the head of the house Intelligence agency talking to Russian pranksters who called and pretended to be another Russian of authority and sent a FBI team to gather false information on a sitting president?

 

[NamesMax]

 

[JB Lions]

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Skipping over facts, haha. Literally admitted it. When you can't debate points, post up a meme.

 

[SirDrago]

@JB Lions
I am asking you in the most respectful manner that I can possibly ask ..
Please think your responses through before hitting the "Post Reply" button.
You have literally edited EVERY post in this conversation.

 

[enlytend]

Potus & co. are doing some mighty aggressive gaslighting and deflection about that report.

Ask your favorite lawyer what phrases like (Barr’s letter quoting the report) “did not establish” and “does not exonerate” imply. (Actually the latter is obvious.)

If that report truly shows he did nothing, release it and end all doubt.

 

[SirDrago]

Potus & co. are doing some mighty aggressive gaslighting and deflection about that report.

Ask your favorite lawyer what phrases like (Barr’s letter quoting the report) “did not establish” and “does not exonerate” imply. (Actually the latter is obvious.)

If that report truly shows he did nothing, release it and end all doubt.

Even if it does show he did nothing wrong you will still not support him due to the fact that he is a republican . So why bother?

 

[JB Lions]

@JB Lions
I am asking you in the most respectful manner that I can possibly ask ..
Please think your responses through before hitting the "Post Reply" button.
You have literally edited EVERY post in this conversation.

Take you own advice? Your post is basically another empty post, no political discussion. This post and my last one had no edits. And then, do you understand what an edit function is? It's to edit stuff. People use it.

NamesMax just used it - Last edited: 43 minutes ago. Most people do.

 

[SirDrago]

Take you own advice? Your post is basically another empty post, no political discussion. This post and my last one had no edits. And then, do you understand what an edit function is? It's to edit stuff. People use it.

NamesMax just used it - Last edited: 43 minutes ago. Most people do.

Can't have a discussion if you continue to backtrack editing your post to fit your conspiracy theories. If you need to make a edit on whatever topic notify the people in the conversation.

P. S I said "The most respectful manner" as well.

 

[JB Lions]

Can't have a discussion if you continue to backtrack editing your post to fit your conspiracy theories. If you need to make a edit on whatever topic notify the people in the conversation.

P. S I said "The most respectful manner" as well.

Me quoting Trump isn't a conspiracy theory. It would be nice to see you guys actually live in some sort of reality. I just looked, my edits are all under 3 minutes. Unless you're hovering over each post, you wouldn't even notice it. Sometimes just to add or correct spelling, what people use the edit function for.

 

[SirDrago]

Me quoting Trump isn't a conspiracy theory. It would be nice to see you guys actually live in some sort of reality.

I was being polite and respectful,
Obviously your hurt and defensive showing that you are insecure about stance.
I will be the gentleman and bid you good night Sir.

 

[JB Lions]

I was being polite and respectful,
Obviously your hurt and defensive showing that you are insecure about stance.
I will be the gentleman and bid you good night Sir.

No, you weren't. You were complaining about somebody using a forum function, it's silly. Again, everybody uses it. I'm not mad at all, it's just pathetic tho. I'm not insecure about directly quoting the President and Trump Jr. showing how you guys are wrong, that doesn't even make sense.

 

[mr-x]

Potus & co. are doing some mighty aggressive gaslighting and deflection about that report.

Ask your favorite lawyer what phrases like (Barr’s letter quoting the report) “did not establish” and “does not exonerate” imply. (Actually the latter is obvious.)

If that report truly shows he did nothing, release it and end all doubt.

Americans enjoy the presumption of innocence. Muller couldn't prove obstruction or collusion. You people are nuts.

 

[GILSAN]

“Black Press Only” For Savannah Mayor’s Forum. White, Latino, Asian, & Native Press BARRED
A mayoral candidate forum in Savannah, Georgia barred whitey from reporting on the event. “No audio or video recording!” read one sign, while another read “No media (T.V., radio, etc.) Black Press Only!”

This forum was organized by Rev. Clarence Teddy Williams and was intended to serve as a vehicle for galvanizing the black vote to support one black candidate for mayor, rather than split the vote between three potential candidates. Oddly enough, it took place at a Baptist church.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...forum-white-latino-asian-native-press-barred/

In a Baptist Church on Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard. How Ironic.

 

[Domainace]

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/28/us/mass-incarceration-five-key-facts/index.html

Maybe some on the board who want Trump in prison at any cost need to read this (from a snowflake-friendly CNN yet).

 

[Kate]

Keep in mind that the scoping of the report was about alleged collusion between Russians and the Trump campaign. In other words, it's about the electoral process and not Trump's long-time business dealings with Russia.

Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election have been established, the question was whether Trump and his staff had knowledge and conspired with Russia to interfere with the elections.

What the report does not state: Trump is not guilty of any charge, past present and future.
It is not a get out of jail card.

Other investigations are still ongoing and whatever the outcome the findings may be not so flattering.

 

[Domainace]

Keep in mind that the scoping of the report was about alleged collusion between Russians and the Trump campaign. In other words, it's about the electoral process and not Trump's long-time business dealings with Russia.

First keep in mind that "collusion" is not a crime. It's a scary and poorly defined word used to get people excited

Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election have been established, the question was whether Trump and his staff had knowledge and conspired with Russia to interfere with the elections.

Yes, and day old popcorn is sometimes sold in movie theatres. Who cares? The USA has been influencing and undermining elections around the world for a century now. If trying to influence an election is an act of war, then the USA is at war with the world. Americans should be embarrassed to even complain about this. In any case, Russian influence was negligible. If it wasn't, then that's another reason for Americans to be embarrassed. They really need to look in the mirror before putting on these pathetic displays of indignation.

What the report does not state: Trump is not guilty of any charge, past present and future.

Nor does it state that you are not guilty of any charge "past present and future". Or me. Or Mickey Mouse. Let's just throw everyone in prison, just in case, shall we? Really, this is the sort of "justice" that Russian is supposed to be famous for. Maybe you are the ones being influenced by Russia.

 

[Kate]

I don't side with Putin, no more than I side with Trump.
On the other hand, I know someone who consistently sides with Putin, against his own administration and chiefs of intelligence. Distrusts everyone, except Trump and Kim.
ANY other president would be tough on Russia; NK and other issues.
Any.
Imagine what Reagan would do. He would not be licking Putin's shoes.

This president is incredibly weak.
Whether there was collusion is a legitimate question, especially after several of Trumps aides were dismissed, demoted, indicted, arrested, sentenced. Flynn for instance. Jared working on a backchannel with Russia.
There is no witch hunt.

All presidents had their shortcomings but they had a clear sense of purpose and where their loyalty should lie, that is with America.
Stay tuned.

I am not disappointed with the report. Only the truth matters. Even if it did exonerate Trump on everything I would be OK with it.
I don't need a report to understand that Trump has betrayed America and the world on so many counts.
Not being fit for the job or lacking decency is not a crime, but it can have damaging consequences.