The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[johname]

The 2nd shooter thing was only in the normal press to dispel it.

I know the hotels make the windows so you cant open them and jump out. Wonder how hard they are to break.

 

[JB Lions]

I know the hotels make the windows so you cant open them and jump out. Wonder how hard they are to break.

Yeah, I always thought so too, said he broke both windows with a hammer. Wonder what they will do with the room. Fix it up and just rent it out again, it'll become one of those crime tourist type of rooms. Or something else? Turn it into a storage area or do something else with the space.

 

[johname]

The bad press will make it so the cant rent it out for a good while. My guess is they will totally renovate the area so you cant make any visual connection But they are stuck with the window setup and beams. And renumber the floor during the holiday time.
Make it a maid station for a while.

 

[mr-x]

He addressed that, those payments were talked about before they made them.

Yeah, you don't make jokes when people are dying/suffering. No decency.

Did you even watch this video? You're like an abused wife defending her cheating husband.

Rhodes has become adept at ventriloquizing many people at once. Ned Price, Rhodes’s assistant, gave me a primer on how it’s done. The easiest way for the White House to shape the news, he explained, is from the briefing podiums…. ‘But then there are sort of these force multipliers,’ he said, adding, ‘We have our compadres, I will reach out to a couple people, and you know I wouldn’t want to name them—‘


Ben Rhodes: “All these newspapers used to have foreign bureaus,” he said. “Now they don’t. They call us to explain to them what’s happening in Moscow and Cairo. Most of the outlets are reporting on world events from Washington. The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns. That’s a sea change. They literally know nothing.”

In the spring of last year, legions of arms-control experts began popping up at think tanks and on social media, and then became key sources for hundreds of often-clueless reporters. ‘We created an echo chamber,’ [Rhodes] admitted, when I asked him to explain the onslaught of freshly minted experts cheerleading for the deal. ‘They were saying things that validated what we had given them to say.’ (emphasis added)



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/6/l-todd-wood-obama-adviser-admits-lying-media-seal-/

http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/09...a-duped-america-into-the-dangerous-iran-deal/

https://www.mediaite.com/online/obama-advisor-openly-brags-about-lying-to-public-media-yawns/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...90d984-13a1-11e6-8967-7ac733c56f12_story.html

 

[enlytend]

"There's a lot of love in this room," Trump said. "Great crowd."

Well... paper towels do clean up water soooo maybe if you had enough of them???? But I don't care what brand it is, one roll's not gonna cut it.

Obama could literately murder a head of state, abandon our Ambassador and leave a countries population in the hands of Islamic terrorist and 99% of liberals would defend him.

Change around a few details and you just described 45 and his diehard supporters

I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.

I'm still confused as to why the hotel security were so lax. The guy had 10 suitcases. Didn't they suspect anything strange?

Brought them in on multiple trips? Just thought he had a crapton of luggage? They can't inspect peoples' bags, so...

 

[Domainace]

According to one report, the shooter in Las Vegas was prescribed anti-anxiety medication. That has been the common link in almost all of these shootings, and some such medications are known to trigger suicidal or homicidal behavior. US television is loaded with adverts for drugs, and people there are among the world's largest consumers. I wonder why this is never covered?

 

[enlytend]

Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Mental health issues have been covered - that's also a common thread, and he wouldn't be on anti-anxiety meds if he didn't have an anxiety problem (or he shouldn't have been.) Was he under the care of a professional? For what? And was it the same drug as in other incidents? They're not all alike...

I'm not for the most part "anti-gun", but I do think it's a big mistake not to regulate closely for anyone with documented mental health issues. If someone has known problems and starts accumulating an arsenal - that probably doesn't bode well.

 

[mr-x]

Change around a few details and you just described 45 and his diehard supporters

To true.

 

[johname]

Earth to Mark Cuban, Earth to Mark Cuban...... American is not going to elect another celebrity President right after the current one, you are wasting time and money....But getting great press coverage lol



Mark Cuban reveals he's 'actively considering' running for president in 2020

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...onsidering-running-for-president-in-2020.html

 

[mr-x]

If you think Trump is insufferable, wait until Cuban starts telling people which parts of the Bill of Rights aren't important.

*that's so old and outdated. No one believes that anymore. (TM)

 

[mr-x]

Sen. Luis Gutierrez compares FLAN terrorist to George Washington.

https://www.mrctv.org/videos/congressman-luis-gutierrez-celebrates-defends-violence-terrorist-pal

News flash, Washington lead and army, not a terrorist campaign against his fellow citizens.

 

[GILSAN]

Actually, she did leave and what's terrible, is that she decided to move into my country about a month ago...

 

[E-Promote]

If you think Trump is insufferable, wait until Cuban starts telling people which parts of the Bill of Rights aren't important.

What has Cuban said concerning the Bill of Rights besides thinking there should be an amendment to the Constitution for healthcare covering chronic illnesses and serious injuries?

 

[fatter]

OK: sorry it took me so long but heres the summary of the new tax plan republicans are pushing, if you are from a high tax state like most of northeast, California etc. The standard deduction for those who don't itemize goes from 6ksomething married 12,500 to 12k single 24k married. That's the standard deduction without itemizing, if you have over 24k in deductions you can still itemize, but state income tax paid, and taxes paid for property tax, as well as city taxes are no longer deductible.charitable contributions, and mortgage interest are pretty much the only deduction. What I don't understand isn't this double taxation how they charge me tax on income that I already paid to the state in taxes, the bottom bracket was 10 percent if this passes then 12 percent will be the bottom rate. I already contacted my reps but it looks like most ny,nj and California republicans will be fighting this.
Joe T

 

[fatter]

Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Mental health issues have been covered - that's also a common thread, and he wouldn't be on anti-anxiety meds if he didn't have an anxiety problem (or he shouldn't have been.) Was he under the care of a professional? For what? And was it the same drug as in other incidents? They're not all alike...

I'm not for the most part "anti-gun", but I do think it's a big mistake not to regulate closely for anyone with documented mental health issues. If someone has known problems and starts accumulating an arsenal - that probably doesn't bode well.

The problem with common sense gun control is NRA is afraid if you give and inch they will take a mile. things like the butt converter to auto should be outlawed, maybe more than 10 round clips, definitely background checks should be done so guns don't fall to criminally insane. I am sure the smart people with the nra and congress could come up with a plan that can save lives. Its just not on the republican side either
theres another vote in the house which the senate probably wont pass to stop abortions after 20 weeks when a baby has been proved they feel pain, except for incest or to save the life of the mother. And don't tell me about if the baby has birth defects, there we 2 cases of my wifes friends whos doctors told them they would be deformed and one brain damaged, and both are perfecty healthy(in the last year) any way my point is if a baby has survived outside the womb at 20 weeks which they have you have to draw the line somewhere, but pro abortion folks are like the NRA they feel if you give an inch they will take a mile
Joe T

 

[enlytend]

I think we all need to have an unemotional bipartisan discussion of guns and regulations. I'm all for personal freedom BUT the free-for-all we have now isn't working, a line needs to be drawn somewhere. I don't know where that is. I have no problem with people owning guns for hunting, target shooting or collecting, after that things aren't so clear. When 2a was written technology was much different than it is now.

Sorry, but I strongly feel birth defects should be an exception. Much of the testing that reveals those issues can't be done until around 20 weeks. The tests have risks, amniocentesis can be done between 14 and 20 weeks, and the later the safer. I'm glad your friends were lucky, but not everyone is. And not all families have the financial resources or insurance to be able to handle it.

My neighbors had a little girl with a serious genetic defect - in their case they didn't test because they thought only one of them was a carrier. Turned out the other one had a false negative on their test ... The child lived a couple of years, most of them on a respirator, in a wheelchair and fed through a tube, (I think she had an osteomy too), had frequent seizures, couldn't speak or move much. It was rough on them and their two older boys, and they were financially in a pretty good place. I can't imagine a lower income couple without decent insurance going through that.

Now, if someone wants to implement universal healthcare, that might be a different matter, but the GOP doesn't seem to care much about lives after they're born.

(PS they named that bill deliberately to get an emotional reaction. There are medical ways to ensure there is no pain to the fetus.)

 

[Domainace]

he wouldn't be on anti-anxiety meds if he didn't have an anxiety problem

That's the chicken and egg that Americans have become conditioned to accept. The "anxiety" is diagnosed by the doctor who the prescribes the "solution," which in America is always a drug. With the amount of psychotropic drugs sold in the US, Americans must by far be the most mentally ill people in history. Either that, or they consume large volumes of drugs for no reason, which itself can cause mental illness.

There is no doubt that drugs are massively over-prescribed in the US, with consequences nobody has even begun to look at.

 

[enlytend]

Other possibility - he wasn't wasn't mentally ill or having a drug side effect - maybe he was just twisted and evil. There appears to have been a lot of planning behind the attack.

 

[mr-x]

1) Unsurprisingly, you've completely missed the purpose of the 2nd amendment.

2) You can't stop evil people with laws. He could just have easily drove a truck full of fertilizer and diesel fuel and killed many more people.

3) Making large decisions based on emotion rarely works well.

and 4: Armed militia in Oregon have stopped abuse by federal government more often than you've been told.

We'd be better off trying to understand why this guy went nuts. If we can understand the problem, we have a chance to form a solution.

I think we all need to have an unemotional bipartisan discussion of guns and regulations. I'm all for personal freedom BUT the free-for-all we have now isn't working, a line needs to be drawn somewhere. I don't know where that is. I have no problem with people owning guns for hunting, target shooting or collecting, after that things aren't so clear. When 2a was written technology was much different than it is now.

Sorry, but I strongly feel birth defects should be an exception. Much of the testing that reveals those issues can't be done until around 20 weeks. The tests have risks, amniocentesis can be done between 14 and 20 weeks, and the later the safer. I'm glad your friends were lucky, but not everyone is. And not all families have the financial resources or insurance to be able to handle it.

My neighbors had a little girl with a serious genetic defect - in their case they didn't test because they thought only one of them was a carrier. Turned out the other one had a false negative on their test ... The child lived a couple of years, most of them on a respirator, in a wheelchair and fed through a tube, (I think she had an osteomy too), had frequent seizures, couldn't speak or move much. It was rough on them and their two older boys, and they were financially in a pretty good place. I can't imagine a lower income couple without decent insurance going through that.

Now, if someone wants to implement universal healthcare, that might be a different matter, but the GOP doesn't seem to care much about lives after they're born.

(PS they named that bill deliberately to get an emotional reaction. There are medical ways to ensure there is no pain to the fetus.)

 

[mr-x]

Nancy Pelosi is a babbling fool, this is the person the DNC puts forth for Gun Control.

TL;DR

Marine Captain Q: What new law would stop something like this?
Pelosi: Background checks

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017...osi-a-simple-question-her-answer-says-it-all/

NV shooter passed federal and local checks. Laws won't stop a motivated criminal. We're lucky he didn't drive his truck full of explosives into the crowd.