The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[JB Lions]

Exactly why I posted the link to bra.se, the official government website. Of course, you can choose to ignore the current stats compiled by the UN and Sweden.

Maybe putting your finger in someones vagina without their permission isn't technically rape but it's still sexual assault.

And as expected, the most vulnerable pay the price, and liberals defend the criminals b/c of politics.

You didn't actually touch any of the points brought up. You posted that stuff and followed it with:

"Lets stop pretending open borders and allowing mass migration from third world countries with inferior cultures, who resist assimilation, is a good idea or even humane."

Trying to blame it on that, when the article you link to points out it can be attributed to how it's counted.

"Just as there’s no evidence supporting the claim that newly-arrived refugees have caused an increase in sexual crimes in Sweden"

You are trying to say it is, want to blame the Muslims.

 

[mr-x]

You didn't actually touch any of the points brought up. You posted that stuff and followed it with:

"Lets stop pretending open borders and allowing mass migration from third world countries with inferior cultures, who resist assimilation, is a good idea or even humane."

Trying to blame it on that, when the article you link to points out it can be attributed to how it's counted.

"Just as there’s no evidence supporting the claim that newly-arrived refugees have caused an increase in sexual crimes in Sweden"

The points you quoted from bra.se are based on 2015 stats, not the current 2017 stats.

 

[JB Lions]

The points you quoted from bra.se are based on 2015 stats, not the current 2017 stats.

Post a chart up. Don't post some link to some pdf in Swedish that you didn't read or can't understand unless you speak the language.

Do you want to address how they changed in 2005 in how they count it? Why are you skipping addressing this:

"Changes made in the legislation in 2005 has had effect on the development, since the legal definition of rape was broadened."

Or how many migrants are actually Muslim?

Take apart the points I brought up.

 

[mr-x]

1) Snopes.com is not a reliable source.

2) While the definition of rape or sexual assault we're expanded before 2105, they still meet the criteria of assault in the USA.

3 ) The jump between 2015 and 2017 are significant.

5) If you think the stats increased was due to flashers or husbands having rough sex with their wives, that's fine. I think the racial make up of offenders is better evidence to base my opinion.

Have a nice day.

 

[JB Lions]

1) Snopes.com is not a reliable source.

2) While the definition of rape or sexual assault we're expanded before 2105, they still meet the criteria of assault in the USA.

3 ) The jump between 2015 and 2017 are significant.

5) If you think the stats increased was due to flashers or husbands having rough sex with their wives, that's fine. I think the racial make up of offenders is better evidence to base my opinion.

Have a nice day.

1. Snopes is not a reliable source? It's facts. Take it apart then, back your post up. So Defend Europa is? You can't take apart the Snopes article on this.

2. Which has what do with what we're talking about? The article you yourself linked to attributed how it's counted to the increase.

3. Waiting for you to post a chart up, something.

4. skipped that

5. So you like to base what you believe in not on facts, but whatever some right wing nationalist site wants you to. It's sheepish type behavior.

You can copy and paste some bs that you can't defend.

"I think the racial make up of offenders"

Break it down for me by percentage. What percentage are Muslim, native born Swede, atheist, Christian etc. I already know you can't and won't.

 

[Kate]

Sweden has a very broad definition of rape, something that Assange has learned the hard way (not taking sides here BTW, just saying).
I mean, it's funny to see all that outrage from the right-wingers, when their Potus idol has such a long history of sexual misconduct. Would they even trust him with their daughters ?

"Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything".
The example comes from the very top.

 

[mr-x]

I mean, it's funny to see all that outrage from the right-wingers, when their Potus idol has such a long history of sexual misconduct. Would they even trust him with their daughters ?

"Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything".
The example comes from the very top.

So we should excuse bad behavior b/c the President of the United States has a history?

Does "women should be believed" come with a disclaimer based on political party or race of accused?

 

[JB Lions]

So we should excuse bad behavior b/c the President of the United States has a history?

Does "women should be believed" come with a disclaimer based on political party or race of accused?

What are you even talking about? I think we all agree they both have bad behavior right?

Just Trump has more
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

And that's not including comments about his own daughter:

"I don't think Ivanka would do that, although she does have a very nice figure. I've said if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her."

"My daughter, Ivanka. She’s 6 feet tall, she’s got the best body."

“After I met Ivanka and praised her to her father, he said, ‘Yeah, she's really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren't happily married and, ya know, her father . . .’”

Mr Trump replies in the affirmative when host Howard Stern asks him if he can call Ivanka "a piece of ass”.

Trump: “My daughter is beautiful, Ivanka."

Stern: “By the way, your daughter…”

Trump: “ - she’s beautiful"

Stern: “Can I say this? A piece of ass.”

Trump: “Yeah.”

Can you imagine if Obama said that about any of his daughters, it would have been running 24/7 on Fox, the right would be flipping out.

 

[mr-x]

What are you even talking about? I think we all agree they both have bad behavior right?

I don't know what you're talking about.

I was pointing out a false equivalence. Trump's boorish behavior has nothing to do with sexual assault on another content. And NO-ONE was making excuses for him.

 

[GILSAN]

UK is just is as bad as Sweden...

Anger as members of Rochdale grooming gang get legal aid to fight deportation... after already receiving £1m to unsuccessfully defend their criminal charges

• The pedophiles preyed on girls as young as 13 during a sickening operation
• Shabir Ahmed, Abdul Aziz, Adil Khan and Abdul Rauf are fighting deportation
• They have received close to a million pounds after getting the same for their trial
• By contrast Charlie Gard's parents were denied aid to fight to keep their son alive

Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...egal-aid-fight-deportation.html#ixzz4opbnzIi5

 

[JB Lions]

I don't know what you're talking about.

I was pointing out a false equivalence. Trump's boorish behavior has nothing to do with sexual assault on another content. And NO-ONE was making excuses for him.

Latest Newsweek cover

story - http://www.newsweek.com/2017/08/11/...kTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

Trump Golf Count
http://trumpgolfcount.com/

http://trumpgolfcount.com/displayoutings

He's off on his 17 day vacation, play more golf. Just to know how many millions got suckered and bought all his lies.

 

[GILSAN]

And it's not just Qatar...

 

[GILSAN]

The next ones to be kicked out?
National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster and Deputy National Security Advisor Dina Habib Powell

Drain the swamp Donald...

 

[mr-x]

BREAKING: FBI email dump reveals collusion between media and DOJ to squash 2016 Lynch Clinton meeting

Read more: http://therightscoop.com/breaking-f...ash-2016-lynch-clinton-meeting/#ixzz4oqQ5LV6X

 

[GILSAN]

BREAKING: FBI email dump reveals collusion between media and DOJ to squash 2016 Lynch Clinton meeting

Read more: http://therightscoop.com/breaking-f...ash-2016-lynch-clinton-meeting/#ixzz4oqQ5LV6X

If true, the slimy Liberal Media will simply gang up, deny it and laugh it off. But we'll see who has the last laugh.

 

[JB Lions]

I guess because it's old news, Hillary lost. Anything to deflect from all the current news, mountain of problems about Trump. Wait till Mueller starts really getting into his personal finances/taxes.

 

[mr-x]

I guess because it's old news, Hillary lost. Anything to deflect from all the current news, mountain of problems about Trump. Wait till Mueller starts really getting into his personal finances/taxes.

I think it more about manipulation by a corrupt DOJ and corrupt journalist eager to help.

TL; DR, "journalist" from WAPO apologized for covering the story, others agreed not to cover it.


But RUSSIA!!

 

[mr-x]

Special prosecutor, with 20+ lawyers and retired investigators, all democrat donors or politicians have two "secret" grand juries for President Trump's campaign.

Public evidence of collusion and selling influence to foreign Governments, including Russia by democratic SoS and the parties nominee for President goes unnoticed.

If your a democrat and can outlast a news cycle, any corrupt / illegal activity isn't worth looking into.

 

[mr-x]

Meanwhile, a Republican controlled Senate and House can't get seem to find out why the US Ambassador to the U.N. and President Obama's speech writer were unmasking names and leaking information about Trumps' campaign team.

Life is good if your a democrat, no matter how stupid you are.

 

[GILSAN]