The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[mr-x]

Muslim community in UK takes a stand.

Over 130 Imams & Religious Leaders from diverse backgrounds refuse to perform the funeral prayer for London attackers in an unprecedented move
http://www.mcb.org.uk/over-130-imam...or-london-attackers-in-an-unprecedented-move/

British Imams refuse to say prayers for London attackers

 

[johname]

Resistance 101: Send it to Wikileaks not a tv station lol

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/fede...emoving-and-mailing-classified-materials-news

 

[mr-x]

Resistance 101: Send it to Wikileaks not a tv station lol

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/fede...emoving-and-mailing-classified-materials-news

What does it say about our counter-intelligence that a contractor can access unauthorized information, print or scan, then email it.

The NSA, FBI, DHS wouldn't have had a clue if the reporter didn't contact them to verify the story

 

[JB Lions]

"Soon after Khan became mayor, then-candidate Trump told the New York Times that he would make an exception to his proposed ban on foreign Muslims for Khan — an offer he turned down.

“I think Donald Trump has ignorant views about Islam. It’s not just about me. I don’t want to be the exception to be allowed to go to America,” Khan said in an interview on a British morning show in May 2016. “You can be a Muslim and you can be European.”

Trump wasted little time firing back. “He doesn’t know me, never met me, doesn’t know what I am all about,” he said. “I think they are very rude statements. Frankly, tell him I will remember those statements.”

That's Trump in a nutshell.

"At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is "no reason to be alarmed!"

"Pathetic excuse by London Mayor Sadiq Khan who had to think fast on his "no reason to be alarmed" statement. MSM is working hard to sell it!"

Watched them try to dance around this, knowing the mayor was talking about the increased police presence and Trump trying to turn it to something else.

No self control - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

 

[GILSAN]

Muslim community in UK takes a stand.

Over 130 Imams & Religious Leaders from diverse backgrounds refuse to perform the funeral prayer for London attackers in an unprecedented move
http://www.mcb.org.uk/over-130-imam...or-london-attackers-in-an-unprecedented-move/

British Imams refuse to say prayers for London attackers

It's a good start, finally, but... when you consider that there are 1,700 Mosques in the UK, that means that the vast majority of UK Imams will perform the funeral prayer for them.

 

[enlytend]

What does it say about our counter-intelligence that a contractor can access unauthorized information, print or scan, then email it.

The NSA, FBI, DHS wouldn't have had a clue if the reporter didn't contact them to verify the story

It says stop relying on contractors and get back to strict "need to know" access controls.

Actually they might have had a clue because of the audit trail it left - that's how they identified her so quickly. Only 6 people printed that document. And she was incredibly inept - emailing from her desktop computer.

Resistance 101: Send it to Wikileaks not a tv station lol

At least send it to some entity that knows how to handle sensitive info without burning their sources.

 

[mr-x]

It says stop relying on contractors and get back to strict "need to know" access controls.

It also says the culture at the NSA is broken if this could be carried out is such a casual manor.

 

[enlytend]

It also says the culture at the NSA is broken if this could be carried out is such a casual manor.

If their access matrix sucks that's procedure, culture has nothing to do with it.
Should be strict definitions of which personnel can access which resources and in what manner. Unless this was a document she needed in the course of her job, she shouldn't have had access.

 

[mr-x]

If their access matrix sucks that's procedure, culture has nothing to do with it.
Should be strict definitions of which personnel can access which resources and in what manner. Unless this was a document she needed in the course of her job, she shouldn't have had access.

Resistance fighter looking at 10 years in federal prison b/c #resistance

 

[mr-x]

If their access matrix sucks that's procedure, culture has nothing to do with it.
Should be strict definitions of which personnel can access which resources and in what manner. Unless this was a document she needed in the course of her job, she shouldn't have had access.

I wonder how many Russian, Iranian, Chinese spys are doing the exact same thing without worry.

 

[JB Lions]

Thursday should be good. They said networks might even interrupt normal programming to air the Comey testimony.

Trump, furious and frustrated, gears up to ‘punch back’ at Comey testimony
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-furious-and-frustrated-gears-up-to-‘punch-back’-at-comey-testimony/ar-BBCc1kX?li=BBnb7Kz

Top intelligence official told associates Trump asked him if he could intervene with Comey on FBI Russia probe
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...mey-on-fbi-russia-probe/ar-BBCc5lj?li=BBnb7Kz

Trump is going to lose it.

 

[Want2learn]

People invent things, not corporations and countries (they just STEAL).

It is impossible to boycott those with the most wealth (usually from ill-gotten gains, public manipulation, family history that anyone today would face prison, even what people are doing today to get rich is criminal - look at the state of the environments they leave behind, the disgusting health issues they cause, etc.) as they suck up everything that humans need to evolve and survive, from homes to clean water, buy up patents and threaten others with ridiculously expensive lawyers that no one else can afford, steal others land, domineer over anyone else that they deem is inferior, force oil pipelines on other's sacred lands, making everyone else feel like there is no hope, bullying others putting them down, forcing them to try and stick up for themselves as they feel there is no hope, then following through their agendas, etc.

Good people don't make it impossible for others to boycott their 'products', they are just greedy and selfish and a stain on the evolution of humanity.

Jews are God's chosen people, but the world hates them the most. The Arabs try to take their land.

 

[mr-x]

The NSA gave this person a security clearance.

 

[enlytend]

Resistance fighter looking at 10 years in federal prison b/c #resistance

No, because she broke a law. And was gawdawful stupid about it besides. She's entitled to her personal opinions, but the line was crossed when she circulated a classified document.

Who she chose to leak the document to was "interesting", to say the least...

I wonder how many Russian, Iranian, Chinese spys are doing the exact same thing without worry.

Snowden was a Russian asset. Another contractor. That's why they need to get rid if the contractors or better restrict / control their access.

Even outside of government, unscrupulous contractors are really toxic for companies. They will do whatever they need to do to keep renewing or expanding the contract at the expense of transparency and playing nice with employees. Result is you get a group of people who are entrenched in the company with no actual commitment or loyalty.

The NSA gave this person a security clearance.

And government granted security clearances to several people in powerful positions who lied on their applications ... and some of them still have it!

 

[mr-x]

No, because she broke a law. And was gawdawful stupid about it besides. She's entitled to her personal opinions, but the line was crossed when she circulated a classified document.

Yes... and she was careless b/c she didn't feel any need to be careful, imo.

#resistance is a cultural problem where Gov employees and leadership are trying to overturn a legitimate election.

Snowden was a Russian asset. Another contractor. That's why they need to get rid if the contractors or better restrict / control their access.

Even outside of government, unscrupulous contractors are really toxic for companies. They will do whatever they need to do to keep renewing or expanding the contract at the expense of transparency and playing nice with employees. Result is you get a group of people who are entrenched in the company with no actual commitment or loyalty.

And government granted security clearances to several people in powerful positions who lied on their applications ... and some of them still have it!

And it appears the NSA has learned nothing if a radical left-wing anti-American contractor is given access to classified information.

 

[mr-x]

And government granted security clearances to several people in powerful positions who lied on their applications ... and some of them still have it!

It's not like Reality Winner was hiding what she thought or her hate for America.

 

[enlytend]

It's not like Reality Winner was hiding what she thought or her hate for America.

She served overseas in the Air Force and earned a military commendation. I don't see hate for the country, just disgust with the occupant of the Oval Office. And misguided idolization of Snowden, who was a Russian asset.

Who knows - there may be more to the story.

Oath swears to uphold and protect the constitution, not unconditional allegiance to a Dear Leader.

Those who blatantly lied about their Russian contacts and those who are trying to undermine the first amendment probably hate America much more.

 

[mr-x]

Big Shocker From Comey Testimony

1) He did tell Trump 3 time he wasn't under investigation
2) No evidence Trump or hist campaign colluded with Russia.

Progressive and liberal jackals who put their "feelings" and righteous outrage over our country hardest hit.

‘If this makes you think Trump colluded with Russia YOU’RE NUTS!’ — Ben Shapiro on Comey’s Testimony
http://therightscoop.com/if-this-ma...a-youre-nuts-ben-shapiro-on-comeys-testimony/

 

[mr-x]

Trump Nominates Another Round of Conservative Judges WHO ACTUALLY FOLLOW THE LAW
http://www.redstate.com/terichristoph/2017/06/07/trump-nominates-another-round-conservative-judges/

 

[enlytend]

Big Shocker From Commey Testimony

1) He did tell Trump 3 time he wasn't under investigation
2) No evidence Trump or hist campaign colluded with Russia.

I'm quite happy with that document and the fact that he released it today - smart move.
Read the whole thing, not just what redstate tells you it says. Especially the statements about him not being under investigation - read them in context.

- Sitting president "Donny Two Scoops" tries to get an independent agency head to promise "loyalty" and establish a relationship of patronage, (in the process coming off sounding like NY mafia.)
- Inappropriate questions about ongoing investigations
- Tries to get him to back off investigation of Flynn

Things should get interesting during the testimony.