The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[mr-x]

No more Palins or Trumps or Cruzs.

Or you'll stalk their family, file dozens of frivolous lawsuits, stand in their front yards with bullhorns terrorizing their children, send the police into their homes with warrants to destroy their lives for supporting the wrong people?

You have to have brass ball to be a democrat and complain about other people.

 

[GILSAN]

WOW: That Electoral College map changed in a HURRY

That large red block would look much nicer if Colorado and New Mexico changed color.

 

[mr-x]

That large red block would look much nicer if Colorado and New Mexico changed color.

Lot of migration into CO. People are getting fed up, it may change.

 

[JB Lions]

Or you'll stalk their family, file dozens of frivolous lawsuits, stand in their front yards with bullhorns terrorizing their children, send the police into their homes with warrants to destroy their lives for supporting the wrong people?

You have to have brass ball to be a democrat and complain about other people.

Are you having some sort of episode? Feel free to put more inept people up, it's why you guys continue to lose. Were you a Sarah Palin supporter?

 

[mr-x]

Are you having some sort of episode?

A little fed up with you.

 

[JB Lions]

So you talk crazy, stalk families, bullhorns? What are you even talking about? You made 7 posts in a row after my last post.

Were you a Sarah Palin supporter? Simple Y or N.

We also have an Ignore Feature on NP, feel free to join Gilsan.

So you were a Cruz supporter? Can't figure out what triggered you.

I'm just posting the facts. Jeb didn't fold. Kasich didn't fold. Cruz did. While I might disagree with them on some of the issues, at least I respect them as far as that.

 

[mr-x]

 

[mr-x]

I remember when Ronald Reagan was elected President. Popular culture, Hollywood, NPR, the media would ridicule him for being old, forgetful, stupid.

He turned the country from best days are behind us. stagnant economy, depression into an optimistic can do, America. He inspired me to vote for the first time.

He wasn't perfect but his best was good enough. The more he succeeded, the more liberals hated him.

 

[Domainace]

Why does the right hate facts? You've said that before, I said go fact check the fact check site. No takers.

That's the problem. Fact check sites are not facts. They are sites written by ordinary people who usually slant their "fact-checks" to suit their personal views. There are many ways this is done (far too much to get into here), but most people turn off their critical thinking when reading what they want to believe.

And "the right hates facts" is also not a fact. It suggests a lack of understanding and an unwillingness to understand though. Which is really the weakest point of the left these days, one that will bring them down.

I just thought, what if Trump decides to run again in 2020? We might have to go thru all this again.

He won't. If he does, he won't get anywhere with it. This is his moment.

 

[JB Lions]

That's the problem. Fact check sites are not facts. They are sites written by ordinary people who usually slant their "fact-checks" to suit their personal views. There are many ways this is done (far too much to get into here), but most people turn off their critical thinking when reading what they want to believe.

They are facts, hence me asking people to go ahead and fact check a fact check site. Again, no takers. The biggest one is http://www.factcheck.org/

Have at it, tell me something they got wrong. If it's not facts, this should be easy for you.

Take one from today:

Pence’s Stance on Climate Change

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/11/pences-stance-on-climate-change/

Go thru it, tell me the mistakes.

Or another one from today about Benghazi. You guys love to talk about Benghazi, even tho she was cleared of it by multiple Republican led committees.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/11/pac-attack-on-clintons-benghazi-record/

That site is - A Project of The Annenberg Public Policy Center. Annenberg being a life long Republican and close friend of Reagan.

 

[Domainace]

They are facts, hence me asking people to go ahead and fact check a fact check site. Again, no takers. The biggest one is http://www.factcheck.org/

That's a website, not a fact. Facts often take some time to explain, and require a desire on the part of the listener to know facts rather than comforting reassurances of entrenched opinions. Hence, the effort is not worth it on threads like this.

But anyone with even a few active synapses knows that no argument is won by saying suchandsuch.com said so. It's simply not an argument, but an appeal to higher authority that uses some random guy in his pajamas as the higher authority.

 

[mr-x]

Weird how when NONE of the global warming claims made by scientist like Bill Nye and Al Gore happened, it was rebranded as climate change.

You can't argue the climate doesn't change or the DOJ will investigate you.

 

[JB Lions]

That's a website, not a fact. Facts often take some time to explain, and require a desire on the part of the listener to know facts rather than comforting reassurances of entrenched opinions. Hence, the effort is not worth it on threads like this.

But anyone with even a few active synapses knows that no argument is won by saying suchandsuch.com said so. It's simply not an argument, but an appeal to higher authority that uses some random guy in his pajamas as the higher authority.

Like I said. Ducked it. That's a website, not a fact? What does that mean? Of course it's a website, we're on the internet. It has posts, it talks about stuff, it goes thru it. Tell me what they get wrong.

How about you tell me what you think are better sources for information.

 

[mr-x]

Global warming is a myth. A made up crisis. Changing the branding doesn't change the motivation, just give fodder for fools to parrot.

 

[JB Lions]

Global warming is a myth. A made up crisis. Changing the branding doesn't change the motivation, just give fodder for fools to parrot.

It's not a myth, you do know of scientists and thermometers? The only real debate is if it's natural or man made. That's just one of the issues I have with the Republican party. Only big group in the world that still denies this, so very anti-Science. Time to adapt.

Ted Cruz and climate change

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/cruzs-pseudoscientific-climate-claims/

 

[mr-x]

I'm old enough to remember when "scientist" said polar bears would be extinct and most of America's cost line would be under water b/c of global warming.

None of that happened but those facts aren't important

 

[JB Lions]

I'm old enough to remember when "scientist" said polar bears would be extinct and most of America's cost line would be under water b/c of global warming.

None of that happened but those facts aren't important

Which has what to do with what you posted?

What direction is this going?

 

[mr-x]

What They Haven't Told You about Climate Change

No we know why Google censored Prager U... they hate science.

 

[JB Lions]

What They Haven't Told You about Climate Change

haha, Dennis Prager, let me get my science from some religious, right winger - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Prager

 

[mr-x]

The Greenpeace founder guy narrating that video sure sounded like a climate denier Nazi. Needs to be investigated.