The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[GILSAN]

 

[GILSAN]

Hillary kept glancing down at the final debate. Cheating Again?

 

[JB Lions]

Hillary kept glancing down at the final debate. Cheating Again?

I guess they don't have glare from light in Portugal.

 

[AGermanGuy]

Hillary kept glancing down at the final debate. Cheating Again?

Please, just stop.

 

[Domainace]

I was talking about Russia invading Ukraine.

It is debateable whether Crimea was really part of the Ukraine. A poll one year after the so-called invasion, 83% of Crimeans said they considered themselves Russian. Heck, the US could invade parts of California and not get that much support.

 

[AGermanGuy]

It is debateable whether Crimea was really part of the Ukraine. A poll one year after the so-called invasion, 83% of Crimeans said they considered themselves Russian. Heck, the US could invade parts of California and not get that much support.

Crimea has been part of Russia for a long time now. Doesn't matter if 83% consider themselves as russian. They are ukrainian, full stop. Also, this poll could very well have been faked by Russia.

"Heck, the US could invade parts of California and not get that much support."

Excuse me? California is already part of the USA.

Jesus, you Putin loving fanatics are weird. Why do you love Dictators so much?

 

[Domainace]

Crimea has been part of Russia for a long time now. Doesn't matter if 83% consider themselves as russian. They are ukrainian, full stop. Also, this poll could very well have been faked by Russia.

"Heck, the US could invade parts of California and not get that much support."

Excuse me? California is already part of the USA.

Jesus, you Putin loving fanatics are weird. Why do you love Dictators so much?

Point 1. They are not "Ukrainian full stop." Even a cursory reading of Crimean history shows the matter is up for debate, unless you a fanatic about the issue.

Point 2. Metaphors. Check them out.

Point 3. Simply not wanting to wage war for no good reason makes me a Putin loving fanatic? You do realize that assertion makes you sound fanatical, I hope.

If you, as a German, want war with Russia, be my guest. Worked out well last time, didn't it?

Just don't drag the US into it.

 

[briguy]

Please make mine a Molson Canadian..lol

 

[GILSAN]

Please make mine a Molson Canadian..lol

Cheers... I'll drink to that... after Trump wins

 

[JB Lions]

Apparently there's a Russian under your bed, too. Seems to be going around.

Aside from the very questionable claim of 17 intelligence agencies "confirming" it was Russia, I got a laugh at the hysterical way Clinton spoke about the Russians trying to influence a US election. (Shock and horror!)
As though the CIA hasn't been regularly doing this to countries around the world for the past century or so. Usually the American method involves misinformation, assassination and the supply of arms. The Russians simply revealed the truth, which is apparently a far worse crime in Clinton eyes.

Russians under bed, I don't see anybody going to that extreme. It's just pretty obvious they have a hand in some of this. Multiple agencies have pointed to Russia. They have the means and the reasons to, see Hillary messing with Putin during his election. And then in the same quote, you say the Russians simply revealed the truth, pretty much admitting it.

New ABC poll, Hillary +12 - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Hillary 82%+ Betting Odds - https://electionbettingodds.com/

Hillary 87.4% FiveThirthEight - http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

Senate Control should go to Dems, now up to 77.5% - https://electionbettingodds.com/congress.html

So she going to get the win, I'm more interested now if she can get some of those traditionally Red States.

Right now, looks like she can get Arizona, which would be big. She's also leading in Florida, NC, Ohio, Iowa.....
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

Utah in interesting, they have McMullin with a chance, Mormons taking over that state. Looks like a 3 way race - http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/utah/

 

[AGermanGuy]

Point 1. They are not "Ukrainian full stop." Even a cursory reading of Crimean history shows the matter is up for debate, unless you a fanatic about the issue.

Point 2. Metaphors. Check them out.

Point 3. Simply not wanting to wage war for no good reason makes me a Putin loving fanatic? You do realize that assertion makes you sound fanatical, I hope.

If you, as a German, want war with Russia, be my guest. Worked out well last time, didn't it?

Just don't drag the US into it.

1. Yes, the history of crimea shows that it isn't 100% if it belongs to Russia or Ukraine. However, in the recent times it belonged to the Ukraine. If you were born in Crimea, then you were born a ukrainian citizen. You can't just choose your nationality. Nationality is what you are born as, if you like it or not. I can't just say "I am English now cuz I like them more than germans".

2. Bad metaphor. Very bad.

3. Okay, first of all:

Where did I say I want to wage war with Russia? Where? Quote that part of my response please.

Hint: I never said I wanna wage war with Russia.

I simply do not tolerate what Russia is doing in Ukraine and not tolerating that makes me want to have war with Russia? What?

Putin is a dictator. Full Stop. You tolerate Russias recent actions that endanger the sovereignity of a country. Full Stop. That makes you a Dictator loving fanatic. Full Stop.

But I can already see your reply: "Putin is no dictator! People voted for him". He is diverting more and more power to his office. Also, recent elections in Russia have very well been rigged.

Now to the last point: Typical american response. Bringing up Germanys WW2 past because you have no other arguments. Like if Germanys WW2 past is all they teach you, as if the last 1000 years of Germanys history don't exist.

 

[AGermanGuy]

Russians under bed, I don't see anybody going to that extreme. It's just pretty obvious they have a hand in some of this. Multiple agencies have pointed to Russia. They have the means and the reasons to, see Hillary messing with Putin during his election. And then in the same quote, you say the Russians simply revealed the truth, pretty much admitting it.

You also posted some ridiculous bs like "And their warships are about to become the dominant force in the Mediterranean."

New ABC poll, Hillary +12 - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Hillary 82%+ Betting Odds - https://electionbettingodds.com/

Hillary 87.4% FiveThirthEight - http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

Senate Control should go to Dems, now up to 77.5% - https://electionbettingodds.com/congress.html

So she going to get the win, I'm more interested now if she can get some of those traditionally Red States.

Right now, looks like she can get Arizona, which would be big. She's also leading in Florida, NC, Ohio, Iowa.....
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

Utah in interesting, they have McMullin with a chance, Mormons taking over that state. Looks like a 3 way race - http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/utah/

I think we can all safely say that Hillary is going to win. It has been like that since a long time now, since I don't think America would ever REALLY vote for something like Trump as president.

 

[mr-x]

I think we can all safely say that Hillary is going to win. It has been like that since a long time now, since I don't think America would ever REALLY vote for something like Trump as president.

Trump is a NY democrat, propped up by media with $10's of millions in free, fawning coverage during the primary. His adult children couldn't even vote for him b/c they're registered democrats.

USA was a nation of laws. There are now two justice systems, one for the ruling party, the other for the rest of us.

 

[mr-x]

The real telling moment for me was when Brit Hume of Fox news refused to support Ted Cruz b/c he was "too ambitious". Compared the Trump & the Clintons, Cruz is an Eagle Scout.

 

[33S]

1. Yes, the history of crimea shows that it isn't 100% if it belongs to Russia or Ukraine. However, in the recent times it belonged to the Ukraine. If you were born in Crimea, then you were born a ukrainian citizen. You can't just choose your nationality. Nationality is what you are born as, if you like it or not. I can't just say "I am English now cuz I like them more than germans".

As a Russian I would really like to know why are you letting your women get raped by imported savages to avoid appearing 'racist', but you weren't protesting when Ukrainian nazis burned to death 48 unarmed people in Odessa who had a different political opinion? Why were you fine with the new Ukrainian govt giving weapons to people with SS insignias from actual nazi organizations to fight the pro-indepencence rebels?

 

[sofiapartner]

New ABC poll, Hillary +12 - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Hillary 82%+ Betting Odds - https://electionbettingodds.com/

Hillary 87.4% FiveThirthEight - http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

OK. Explain that. Rasmussen and IBD/TIPP tracking are giving Trump the lead with +2.

How is that possible? Such a big difference? Somebody is cheating with the polls. This is obvious.

Who is telling the truth?

Or maybe this explains it all:

In the ABC poll:
Partisan divisions are 36-27-31 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents.

If the partisand divisions were 36 republicans to 27 democrats - can you guess the result.

SUCH AN UGLY MANIPULATION ! It's rigged system, folks.

DrainTheSwamp.

 

[fatter]

I am not to sure that the democrats will come out in force, there are a lot of Bernie supporters who are angry,
I also think Trump will do better with African Americans than expected, I talk with several of them, while some hate him, there a quiete a few that said they are voting for him.Of coarse he wont get many Latinos I suspect. Does anyone know the percentage of USA that vote, I think its around 50 percent so whoever has the motivated following gets better turnout than the Polls. Kind like Brexit I think
Joe T

 

[JB Lions]

OK. Explain that. Rasmussen and IBD/TIPP tracking are giving Trump the lead with +2.

How is that possible? Such a big difference? Somebody is cheating with the polls. This is obvious.

Who is telling the truth?

Or maybe this explains it all:

In the ABC poll:
Partisan divisions are 36-27-31 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents.

If the partisand divisions were 36 republicans to 27 democrats - can you guess the result.

SUCH AN UGLY MANIPULATION ! It's rigged system, folks.

DrainTheSwamp.

I said this back in May:

Just so people know, the Rasmussen poll is a known joke. I remember them from last election. Trump supporters will be holding their hope on Rasmussen, then Trump will get crushed. Then they will cry about that poll.

And here we go just like I said, holding on to Rasmussen. We went over this earlier. Rasmussen is a known joke. They had Romney winning President.

LA Times/USC Tracking is also a joke - http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-polling-differences-20160809-snap-story.html

I gave the best links, the very best links to legit sources many times in this thread.

Early voting shows a lot more women voting, bad, very bad for Trump.

I am not to sure that the democrats will come out in force, there are a lot of Bernie supporters who are angry,

They might be angry but keep in mind stuff like what party do you have a better chance at liberal/progressive policy? Think of Supreme Court. I doubt Bernie supporters want that to go very Conservative. The Supreme Court is one of the reasons some Republicans (like Cruz) are giving for still supporting Trump, it's a big deal.

I'm also interested to see how many states Nate Silver will get correctly this time - http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

after going 49/50 and 50/50 last 2 elections. There are some very close races, so at worst, maybe 48/50. We'll see.

 

[AGermanGuy]

As a Russian I would really like to know why are you letting your women get raped by imported savages to avoid appearing 'racist', but you weren't protesting when Ukrainian nazis burned to death 48 unarmed people in Odessa who had a different political opinion? Why were you fine with the new Ukrainian govt giving weapons to people with SS insignias from actual nazi organizations to fight the pro-indepencence rebels?

1. A youtube video is no credible source.
2. Watching too much Breitbart, huh? Since the rape of cologne there haven't been any other incidents of refugees raping woman.

It is always funny seeing americans (or in this cause, russians) saying Sweden and Germany are now rape capitals of the world, when all they know about this is from far right news like Breitbart :D (or whatever the russian equivalent is).

Well, good thing to know that I ACTUALLY LIVE HERE and can confirm that there are no rapes here. Well, this message goes to all the people that can think independently of Breitbart, since the people that watch Breitbart won't believe me since I am just paid by the goverment to not sound racist :DDDDD

EDIT: But really, no point in discussing this any further with someone so heavily brainwashed by Putin like you. And brainwashed by Breitbart for that matter, too.

 

[GILSAN]

LIBERAL LOGIC...