The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[JB Lions]

Oh, just read this

Gennifer Flowers Agrees To Join Trump At Presidential Debate

"An assistant to Flowers told BuzzFeed News in the past she had declined such invitations, not wanting to be a “sideshow,” but said she would forward the invite to Flowers.

In an email to BuzzFeed News, Judy Stell, her personal assistant then confirmed she would be attending."

https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkacz...dential-debate?utm_term=.xxqLa9aBn#.xd664W475

If that happens, I really hope they stay focused on the candidates. They should give Cuban/Flowers 0 air time. But of course that's not going to happen.

 

[GILSAN]

He definitely looks much healthier and energetic than Hillary at the moment. Besides, being 20 pounds overweight is no big deal. She's also a little overweight. In fact if you look close she's looks a wee bit more overweight than he is, but I don't think that's a big deal that both are a little over.

As for both their ages... again it doesn't bother me. American Presidents have lots of advisers to think for them, teleprompters to make them look more polished when delivering speeches, written by others.

They make very few trips outside the US every year, because most foreign leaders come to the White House. Up till now they have to act Politically Correct on certain matters, especially to please Liberals. They don't have to be PC when dealing with Conservatives. Hopefully all that PC Bull Crap will end soon.

They have plenty of time to have several vacations a year, like Obama does, a lot of it spent on the golf course. And they call it the toughest job in the world... hahaha, what a joke. Having meetings all day long is NOT such a tough job. Having everything done for you is NOT a tough job.

The people that have a really tough job are the working class people around the world, especially in the poorer countries.

I always have a good laugh when the MSM and the so called experts they invite to blast and ridicule Trump, keeps telling us how Trump has no experience. WTF... who the hell needs experience when everything is done for them. The only thing they need to do is make a decision.... YES or NO.

What experience did Obama have before becoming President? Did the Media talk about that constantly as they are doing with Trump?

How about when Osama Bin Laden was finally caught and killed, the media keeps telling us it was Obama who got him. How about all those men and women in the intelligence agencies, the army and air force people involved in capturing him? Why doesn't most of the credit go to them?

 

[enlytend]

What experience did Obama have before becoming President? Did the Media talk about that constantly as they are doing with Trump?

Actually, they did - or the republican voters did. I remember a lot of complaints that he had only been a US senator for a brief period of time (although a state senator before that) - a lot of people felt he didn't have enough experience.
Examples: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-01-16-obama-experience-cover_x.htm
http://visionamerica.us/barack-obama-distinguished-by-lack-of-experience-and-inveterate-liberalism/
How'd that work out for ya? Those same people are giving Trump a pass on experience, and he hasn't even served on city council.
He's not particularly good at business either, considering the failures, bailouts and bankruptcies. He likes to portray himself as the ultimate success story (although he started with Daddy's money and got another infusion from Daddy when he almost ran his business into the ground). He's very good at marketing himself...and disparaging his opponents... but neither of those are skills we need in a President.
It's very troublesome that he's been using his foundation's funds improperly, that he had numerous lawsuits from local contractors because he didn't pay them, and a former KGB officer/operative is playing him like a violin. Not to mention his short fuse and attitude towards women.
Can you imagine the uproar if Hillary hadn't disclosed her tax returns? Why won't he disclose his? If there's nothing to hide, that will put all the rumors to rest.
I have nothing against their age either. Ageism is a subtle but pervasive issue in the workplace in this country, its actually encouraging to see that's not an issue for either "side" on this prolonged "job interview."

Cuban, Flowers ... FFS, can't we just let them debate the issues without making it a freakin' circus?

 

[GILSAN]

Actually, they did - or the republican voters did. I remember a lot of complaints that he had only been a US senator for a brief period of time (although a state senator before that) - a lot of people felt he didn't have enough experience.
Examples: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-01-16-obama-experience-cover_x.htm
http://visionamerica.us/barack-obama-distinguished-by-lack-of-experience-and-inveterate-liberalism/
How'd that work out for ya? Those same people are giving Trump a pass on experience, and he hasn't even served on city council.

Like I said on my previous post about candidates and their experience:
"who the hell needs experience when everything is done for them."
And again as I asked on my previous post:
"Did the Media talk about that constantly as they are doing with Trump?" I never said they didn't. Just nothing to compare to the constant mention at the moment that Trump has no experience.

I have nothing against their age either. Ageism is a subtle but pervasive issue in the workplace in this country, its actually encouraging to see that's not an issue for either "side" on this prolonged "job interview."

The Media is not making an issue of it because they are both the same age. When McCain challenged Obama, the Media made it a big issue, saying that he'd peg off soon after being elected. Well he's still apparently well and very much alive.

Cuban, Flowers ... FFS, can't we just let them debate the issues without making it a freakin' circus?

Hillary provoked the situation first. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Trump is not a McCain or a Romney. He's not afraid to strike back... thank God.

Here's another beauty: Lots of those so called experts on the Liberal Media have said on numerous occasions, that it would be physically almost impossible to build a 2000 mile wall on the Mexico border. Imagine that... a country that has sent a man to the moon almost 50 years ago, a country that has some of the highest skyscrapers in the world, doesn't have the capacity to build a 10 or 20 foot wall.

Trump has the solution: Since some Liberal American engineers (according to the Lame Stream Media) are unable to build a wall, he can give the job to Conservative Engineers or call dozens of countries like Israel or China and they will gladly do it without a problem, after all they already have some experience.

 

[GILSAN]

LOL...
Short Hillary wanted to debate tall Trump on a STEP STOOL – but was turned down – and she won't get commercial breaks for coughing fits or fainting spells

• The Clinton campaign asked the Commission on Presidential Debates to give her a step stool so she wouldn't look much shorter than Donald Trump
• Clinton stands 5'4", nearly a foot shorter than Trump's 6'2"
• The commission turned down her request but is allowing a custom-built podium to minimize Trump's height advantage
• There will be no commercial breaks during the 90-minute debate Monday night, leaving Clinton on camera if she faints or has a coughing episode

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...reaks-Monday-coughing-fits.html#ixzz4LETG8Yqq

 

[GILSAN]

Another massive rally today...

 

[GILSAN]

CNN Purposely Adds “Racial” To Trump’s Profiling Comments To Derail Campaign
CNN has nothing to do with journalism anymore. They edit out things Hillary Clinton says and make up things for Donald J. Trump. Unbelievable.

The so-called news organization added “racial” to Trump’s interview when he was speaking about profiling refugees and how Israel takes care of its border situation.

 

[Ram G.]

Pusillanimous Hypocrite Ted Cruz Endorses Unhinged Sociopath Donald Trump

http://gothamist.com/2016/09/23/u_cruz_u_lose.php

 

[RogueWriter]

 

[GILSAN]

Don't be so harsh on them... these are children of the Welfare State. After all, they are entitled to get free stuff... aren't they?

 

[GILSAN]

 

[GILSAN]

So the “Hispanic” Cascade Mall killer is a Turkish Muslim with an “unknown” motive. That clarifies things.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-artist-revealed-five-shot-dead-shooter.html

 

[JB Lions]

1 more day. Just for historical purposes. Going to post the 3 main sites I look at for stats, so we can see who gets a bump after the debates.

Real Clear Politics - Clinton +2.3
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Election Betting Odds - Clinton 63.5%
https://electionbettingodds.com/

FiveThirtyEight, aka Mr. Nate "the God" Silver, aka Mr. 99% picking states over last 2 elections, Clinton - 54.8%
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

So slight lead everywhere for Clinton.

Looks like Trump was just messing around about Flowers being there - http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/25/politics/presidential-debate-preview-2016/index.html

Which Trump will show up? I'm thinking the one where he acts Presidential, not his normal, true self. That worked with the R debates but this is National, big league. So he's going to have to fake it for a few debates.

 

[sofiapartner]

@JB Lions , it's not too late to accept my bet. Remember? $100? Or let's make it $500?

 

[JB Lions]

@JB Lions , it's not too late to accept my bet. Remember? $100? Or let's make it $500?

Not taking your money dude. But this is brutal, ask Trump 1 question:

https://twitter.com/hashtag/AskTrumpOneQuestion?src=tren

Worst candidate ever.

‘Dr. Oz Show’ Edits Out Donald Trump Comment About Kissing Daughter Ivanka

"Exhibit A: Trump told GQ last year that his daughter was "really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren't happily married and, ya know, her father."

"In 2006, Trump weighed in on the possibility of Ivanka posing for Playboy magazine with the ladies of "The View."

"It would be really disappointing -- not really -- but it would depend on what's inside the magazine," he said. "I don't think Ivanka would do that, although she does have a very nice figure," adding that, "I've said if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her."

"Three years earlier, the billionaire real estate mogul described Ivanka as "6 feet tall" with "the best body" during an appearance on Howard Stern's shock jock radio show."

Just imagine if Bill Clinton or Obama talked about their daughters like that, the right would lose it.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/‘dr-oz-show’-edits-out-donald-trump-comment-about-kissing-daughter-ivanka/ar-BBwcCuG

 

[Domainace]

What is this puritanical obsession with incest among the anti-Trump brigade? Trump is crass and even vulgar at times. That's the way he speaks. Nothing new here. Most people accept it or not already. There is no indication at all that he has had inappropriate relations with his daughter, as much as some people want to believe that.

If Clinton said it, it would come off as creepy because of his track record with women. But he would get a pass as well. If Obama said it, it would be so out of character people would think he is on drugs.

Context. It matters.

I don't normally watch the debates, but this should be a good one. The worst thing that can happen to Trump is that Hillary fails so spectacularly (or collapses) that she is replaced by another candidate. Almost anyone would make a stronger opponent than Clinton.

Either way, it's all just popcorn and entertainment on the Titanic.

 

[JB Lions]

What is this puritanical obsession with incest among the anti-Trump brigade? Trump is crass and even vulgar at times. That's the way he speaks. Nothing new here. Most people accept it or not already. There is no indication at all that he has had inappropriate relations with his daughter, as much as some people want to believe that.

If Clinton said it, it would come off as creepy because of his track record with women. But he would get a pass as well. If Obama said it, it would be so out of character people would think he is on drugs.

Context. It matters.

I don't normally watch the debates, but this should be a good one. The worst thing that can happen to Trump is that Hillary fails so spectacularly (or collapses) that she is replaced by another candidate. Almost anyone would make a stronger opponent than Clinton.

Either way, it's all just popcorn and entertainment on the Titanic.

Nobody decent speaks about their daughter like that, don't try to excuse it. Read the quotes. People are saying there might be something to it.

20 minutes till debate. Debates should decide it. Updated the stats in the post above, for a before and after.

 

[GILSAN]

What is this puritanical obsession with incest among the anti-Trump brigade? Trump is crass and even vulgar at times. That's the way he speaks. Nothing new here. Most people accept it or not already. There is no indication at all that he has had inappropriate relations with his daughter, as much as some people want to believe that.

If Clinton said it, it would come off as creepy because of his track record with women. But he would get a pass as well. If Obama said it, it would be so out of character people would think he is on drugs.

Context. It matters.

I don't normally watch the debates, but this should be a good one. The worst thing that can happen to Trump is that Hillary fails so spectacularly (or collapses) that she is replaced by another candidate. Almost anyone would make a stronger opponent than Clinton.

Either way, it's all just popcorn and entertainment on the Titanic.

Enjoy your popcorn. Did you get a big bucket?

In the true tradition of fairness... may the best one win.

 

[JB Lions]

haha, Trump just got handled. Just checked the betting site real quick.

It was 63.5% before it started, it's already at 69.2% and rising - https://electionbettingodds.com/

 

[Domainace]

Enjoy your popcorn. Did you get a big bucket?

Nah, just my coffee from Vietnam. Which has almost doubled in price since the hipsters discovered it. They ruin everything they touch.