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  • Both Parties

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    45.6%
  • Neither Party

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  • Democrats

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  • Republicans

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AfternicAfternic
DMAN LIE AND YOU KNOW IT!!!!!
As usual, people only believe the first thing they hear from the liberal press!

Now go and get the real freaking story!
It as NOT Mitt Romney, but an aide of his.
Who (unlike those liberals) apoligized to those involved!

Come on, before you post, make damn sure it is true!

I wrote: Mitt Romney aide tells Stupid Liberal reporters to "Kiss my ass" and "Shove it" in Poland. I didn't say it was Mitt Romney who said it.
 
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"And yet these all changed with exception of Debt under Reagan and Clinton, And you look in your crystal ball and tell us they wont change under Romney?, How do you draw that conclusion?" they look at what came before and after both of those 2 terms. The bubble has to burst at some point, its kind of like hot potato. Under Regan there were the wars in central america, the Iraq-Iran war (we supported Iraq) except when it had to do with a particular general.
Under Clinton there was the war against Serbia.
Rmoney is an "ideologue" so what is the big diff?

Voting for president is SYMBOLIC sure -officaly- he is the head of state and he can do some excutive order stuff ,but really, you really think the pres runs things? Do not kid yourself. A voter turn out of around 5% , that would send a SYMBOLIC message, that this system is broken. That would have a MUCH bigger impact than changing Rmoney for Obama. Tune in Turn on Dont Vote / Praise the loardy dont vote for a Morman.
 
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Having followed US politics for 50+ years, I have come to the conclusion that Americans get the Government you all deserve.

Get out there and make a difference. Stop being so apathetic about the IDIOTS that are / have / will be in power. Sitting on your big fat ASS watching your country go down the DRAIN.
Think, Agitate, React, Campaign, Donate, Help out, VOTE. Join or start a new political party, there is more to politics than just Republicans and Democrats (Don't get me started on the TeaParty idiots).
Do whatever it takes to get real effective leadership and governance. It is not presidents that make a difference, it is the attitudes of the people that allow clowns to be your leaders.


Just don't accept whatever is dished up by idiots that in a real democracy wouldn't be allowed to empty the trashcan.
Remember
"Government of the people, by the people, for the people"
 
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Old guy like me!

Very true.
And those who gripe the loudest are usually the ones who did not vote.


Having followed US politics for 50+ years, I have come to the conclusion that Americans get the Government you deserve.

Get out there and make a difference. Stop being so apathetic about the IDIOTS that are / have / will be in power.
Agitate, React, Campaign, Donate, Help out, VOTE.
Do whatever it takes to get real effective leadership and governance.

Just don't accept whatever is dished up by idiots that in a real democracy wouldn't be allowed to empty the trashcan.
Remember
"Government of the people, by the people, for the people"
 
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Adam Smith, the Chick-fil-A hater apologizes after being fired from his firm, after his disgusting, bullying attitude towards a Chick-fil-A employee, who handled this moron with all the class in the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nmP9Shki6_I

I'm sure he will have no problems in finding a job now. The mayors of Chicago, Boston and San Francisco will welcome this Chick-fil-A hater with open arms.

Here is the idiots original Video Rant:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg-jzlWcc0E&list=FLyrz9haPmKNpnyI1lcbT4vA&index=1&feature=plpp_video"]Former Lecturer/Corporate CFO Bullies Chick-fil-A Clerk - YouTube[/ame]

Wow! talk about intolerance!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/08/chick-fil-a-kiss-hate-graffiti-vandalized.html

Even more disgusting intolerance!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/so-...-protest-that-you-may-or-may-not-want-to-see/
 
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Listen carefully.
He did not apologize.
Just sorry he was caught making a dumb mistake.

Dear Employees:

As the CEO of this organization, I have resigned myself to the fact that Barrack Obama is our President and that our taxes and government fees will increase in a BIG way. To compensate for these increases, our prices would have to increase by about 10%. But, since we cannot increase our prices right now due to the dismal state of the economy, we will have to lay off sixty of our employees instead. This has really been bothering me since I believe we are family here and I didn't know how to choose who would have to go. So, this is what I did. I walked through our parking lots and found sixty 'Obama' bumper stickers on our employees' cars and have decided these folks will be the ones to let go. I can't think of a more fair way to approach this problem. They voted for change......I gave it to them. I will see the rest of you at the annual company picnic.
 
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WASHINGTON | Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:41pm EDT
(Reuters) - Democratic strategists were stunned on Friday by a statement released by former U.S. Congressman Anthony Weiner that he and current Attorney General Eric Holder have formed a new dream team to challenge the Obama Biden primary ticket. Flash mobs in several large cities chanted "Weiner Holder! Weiner Holder!" until police restored order. Economists have raised GDP guidance based on an expected surge of bumper sticker manufacturing and domain name registrations.
 
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Listen carefully.
He did not apologize.
Just sorry he was caught making a dumb mistake.
Why do these big mouth, no cojones idiots always apologize afterwards, when everyone knows they don't mean it?

What do you think of Paul Ryan being picked for VP? Was it a good choice?. I was hoping for Rubio.
 
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"What do you think of Paul Ryan being picked for VP?"

Well, Romney is already behind in the polls, now he'll fall even further behind. This one is over.
 
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"What do you think of Paul Ryan being picked for VP?"

Well, Romney is already behind in the polls, now he'll fall even further behind. This one is over.
rom what I've read a lot of these polls have up 15% more Democrats being polled than Republicans. How can you believe in them being fair?

Did Democrats win by a margin of 15% in the last elections? And whats the reason that Ryan is so bad for Romney. How can you tell he's bad just a few hours after he was nominated? Aren't you jumping the gun?
 
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rom what I've read a lot of these polls have up 15% more Democrats being polled than Republicans. How can you believe in them being fair?

Did Democrats win by a margin of 15% in the last elections? And whats the reason that Ryan is so bad for Romney. How can you tell he's bad just a few hours after he was nominated? Aren't you jumping the gun?

They're usually randomly selected people, so it usually bears out to the election:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

Plus intrade now has Obama up 58% - 38%.

I'm basing it on what I've read so far. Democrats being giddy over this pick, his idea to turn Medicare into a voucher program, voting with Bush 90%+ of the time etc.

With the economy the way it is, Romney should be up in the polls, he's not. What's new that is going to come out about Obama, economy etc?

This is an interesting little chart, this election vs the one 4 years ago, same time period:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...12_vs_election_2008_four_years_ago_today.html

This is where he is at on issues:
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Paul_Ryan.htm/
 
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With the economy the way it is, Romney should be up in the polls, he's not. What's new that is going to come out about Obama, economy etc?
Romney wants to talk about the economy but the Liberal Media keep talking about Bain Capital and Mitt's Tax returns. They've been at this for about 2 months!!! it's like a broken record...

A large % of the US Media is really pathetic and biased. Gone are the days (when Nixon was President) that the Media was on the side of the people and the truth, not in bed with politicians and in the case of the US mostly biased towards Democrats nowadays.

They use all the dirty tricks in the book including biased polls (how can Obama be up 58% - 38%?) to convince people that Romney is useless while kissing Obama's ass all the time. Don't you feel embarrassed to have such a biased media in your country or have you been so brainwashed by them, that you've reached a point where you no longer need to think who to vote for because the Liberal media will do it for you.
 
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Romney wants to talk about the economy but the Liberal Media keep talking about Bain Capital and Mitt's Tax returns. They've been at this for about 2 months!!! it's like a broken record...

A large % of the US Media is really pathetic and biased. Gone are the days (when Nixon was President) that the Media was on the side of the people and the truth, not in bed with politicians and in the case of the US mostly biased towards Democrats nowadays.

They use all the dirty tricks in the book including biased polls (how can Obama be up 58% - 38%?) to convince people that Romney is useless while kissing Obama's ass all the time. Don't you feel embarrassed to have such a biased media in your country or have you been so brainwashed by them, that you've reached a point where you no longer need to think who to vote for because the Liberal media will do it for you.

It's like a broken record...
 
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"They use all the dirty tricks in the book including biased polls (how can Obama be up 58% - 38%?)"

That's not a biased poll, that's Intrade, which we talked about before.

You can read some about them - https://www.google.com/search?q=in+...pw.r_qf.&fp=fd8d87dbf551ab53&biw=1216&bih=510

Based in Ireland, not this country. Prediction market type stuff. People actually putting their money up, buying shares. If you check their history, it's one of the most accurate things out there. They got like 49/50 states right last election, predicted the Electoral vote literally within 1 vote. You can ask somebody, say a Republican who will win the election, they'll probably say Romney. Ask the same person to put a few thousand dollars of their own money up on who they think will win, you might get a different answer.

In regards to MSM, went over that to death. It's funny you keep mentioning that when they go after everybody and where were they when you had Republicans in the White House 12 years straight with Reagan/Bush or when Bush Jr. went 8 years straight, even losing the popular vote?

In regards to Ryan, more stuff I don't like about him. Another anti-science type. Against abortion, even in cases of rape and incest. Against in vitro fertilization, against step cell research etc. Things that can actually help people. So yeah, they fired up their base, but probably fired up the Democrat base even more with that pick. I mean who do they think Republicans are going to vote for, Obama, Democrats? They already have the right vote. They need the independents, moderates. But they keep doing this stupid stuff with picking extreme right type folk and then wonder why they get an ass whippin come election time. It'll be bigger than Obama's win over Bush.
 
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Just wondering what everyone's view is on Romney's tax returns. For me, I know he made a lot of money, but I'd like to see if he was one of the guys who made a killing with the wall street crowd while the rest of the country sank.

I doubt he broke any laws, but I'd be interested in seeing his 07, 08, 09 and 2010 returns. Again, it's not that he makes a lot of money, I don't have any problems with that, but I want to see how deep he was in with wall street during the crash.

That money went somewhere, and I'd like to know if Mitt was one of the guys who walked away without a scratch.
 
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Just wondering what everyone's view is on Romney's tax returns. For me, I know he made a lot of money, but I'd like to see if he was one of the guys who made a killing with the wall street crowd while the rest of the country sank.

A lot of his money is in guaranteed dividends it would have been largely unaffected. It would also have been taxed at the sky-high rate of about 15% overall.

How we got to the 99% 1% is the same way we'll get to the 99.9% .1%.

A lot of of people are going to be sorely disappointed when they find out they aren't as privileged as they want to think they are.
 
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"99.9% .1%."

Would it be fair to say, that at this point it really does come down to a battle between those at the top? Last man standing, sole survivor, a omnipotent/self regulated company that ends up ruling the world.

I used to think when people were crazed with world domination, that they were just kidding around, making a joke about extremes. How could a reasonable person expect to take over the world, it was just too crazy!

Looks like it may be doable, just build a multinationalmegaconglomerate that can't stop growing.
 
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Romney, remember, whatever he makes per year, from what ever source?
He tithes 20% to the Mormon church.

Something that gets lost in all the hoohaa about what he makes and his taxes paid.
 
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