The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[mr-x]

This?

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/24/tru...erte-on-his-handling-of-the-drug-problem.html

Seriously? This story "reportedly" based on a transcript of a call obtained by the NY times? How does this equate to overthrowing two other equal branches of Gov, destroying the constitution and bill of rights?

 

[offthehandle]

Duterte has waged a war the drug trade in his country, killing thousands, and alarming human rights groups around the world.

Alarming the ACLU, Human Rights watch, etc, must be doing something that 50% of people agree with.

“Despite widespread international condemnation, Duterte’s “abrasive tongue and brutal methods have kept him popular in the Philippines, where he enjoys high approval ratings and legislative support”, says The Guardian.”

http://www.theweek.co.uk/92358/philippines-rodrigo-duterte-calls-for-icc-mass-exodus

 

[mr-x]

Obama wouldn't compromise with a GOP congress and resulted to executive orders, most of which a few years before he said he couldn't do.

That is the extent of Presidential power.. it's temporary without congressional consent.

 

[enlytend]

Look at my historical comments here, about not getting paid after 6 months of incompetence requiring 49 phone calls shipping stuff to Kuwait.... etc. I have dealt with many gov contracts, personnel and have little respect for them or the process.

Sorry you had such a bad experience but that doesn’t make it universally true. I have friends who have worked in government - locally and for federal agencies -and I can assure you your stereotype doesn’t fit them in the least.

Seriously? This story "reportedly" based on a transcript of a call obtained by the NY times? How does this equate to overthrowing two other equal branches of Gov, destroying the constitution and bill of rights?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You asked for an example of 45 saying something nice about Duterte - I didn’t know something about overthrowing the government etc. was additional criteria.

 

[offthehandle]

Just imagine if you weren’t some ditzy actresses, would a normal girl/woman and 4 of her friends making identical accusations get any such special investigation or any attention? Of course not. Bet, some money tie in to Vance in the maggotville govt capitalism.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...arvey-weinstein-allegations-article-1.3884802


“Critics noted Weinstein’s lawyer, David Boies, donated $10,000 to Vance’s reelection campaign in 2015 after the prosecutor chose not to bring charges in the Battilana case.”

 

[offthehandle]

The 7 min that the media wants you to hear. Omits his lying under oath.

Of course this gem. He “can’t talk about the dossier then, but now he will if you buy his book! Lol. Cashin’ on his 15 minutes, like any good maggot.

 

[offthehandle]

Never any China sanctions or tariffs with these sorts of deals.

New maggot madness. Biden’s son got a billion from Chinese days after his China visit on Air Force 2 return trip with his father. Father can’t take the bribe, but no disclosure required by family members. Kerry’s son too.

“In 2013, the younger Biden would be part of an official U.S. delegation to the country. Ten days later, Rosemont entities inked a $1 billion deal with the bank of China. The deal was eventually increased to $1.5 billion.”


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...biden-and-kerrys-sons-inked-deal-with-chinese

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...kerry-billion-dollar-deal-chinese-government/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...mp-braces-attacks-secret-empires-book-launch/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/author...ilies-of-mitch-mcconnell-joe-biden-1521141489

Can’t leave out the Other aisle of maggotville McConnell:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...n-chao-used-political-power-make-family-rich/

“As Schweizer tells it, the Chao family fortune derives from the Foremost Group, a shipping company that Chinese native James Chao, a classmate of former Chinese president Jiang Zemin at Jiao Tong University, founded in New York in 1964. Chao remains Foremost’s chairman today, and his daughters Angela and Christine are the company’s deputy chairwoman and general counsel, respectively. Elaine Chao worked there in the 1970s, and has been quoted as saying, “Shipping is our family tradition.”

The success of Foremost is largely due to its close ties to the Chinese government, in particular the China State Shipbuilding Corp. (CSSC), a corporation with which Foremost has done “large volumes of business.”

 

[enlytend]

The other day 45 said:
"Today, we applaud Adapt Pharma's decision to provide free -- free Narcan to all high schools, colleges and universities in America,"

Apparently he didn’t know that
the program and drugs were not being given away by Adapt, but were actually being funded via a partnership with the Clinton Foundation.

Chelsea tweeted him a thanks for the mention - :D

 

[offthehandle]

@Kate
I found this interesting. You talk about US debts, no doubt it's ugly... however the US seems to be one of the runner up's, rather than a leader.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

 

[Kate]

@Kate
I found this interesting. You talk about US debts, no doubt it's ugly... however the US seems to be one of the runner up's, rather than a leader.

I am perfectly aware that the situation in other countries isn't any better. However that doesn't mean the US will be the last to fall. And the dominance of the USD is drawing to an end. A US default will have massive repercussions globally.

 

[mr-x]

Sorry you had such a bad experience but that doesn’t make it universally true. I have friends who have worked in government - locally and for federal agencies -and I can assure you your stereotype doesn’t fit them in the least.



¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You asked for an example of 45 saying something nice about Duterte - I didn’t know something about overthrowing the government etc. was additional criteria.

*In context of the thread.

For the record, I'm against the death penalty in almost all cases. Too easy for the Gov to make mistakes. Trump has some stupid ideas but a lot of people think this way.

Thank God our founders were suspicious of Gov power.

 

[JB Lions]

Trump adding more lawyers.

Trump Jr. cheated with Aubrey O' Day.

Trump Can’t Dodge Lawsuit Saying He Lied About Groping, Judge Says
"As busy as Donald Trump is being president, he can’t avoid a lawsuit by a former "Apprentice" contestant who says he defamed her by calling her a liar after she accused him of sexual assault, a judge said."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-apprentice-suit-saying-he-lied-about-groping

Cambridge Analytica was trying to block this and failed:

"We were able to use data to identify that there was very large quantities of persuadable voters there that could be influenced to vote for the Trump campaign."

 

[offthehandle]

I am perfectly aware that the situation in other countries isn't any better. However that doesn't mean the US will be the last to fall. And the dominance of the USD is drawing to an end. A US default will have massive repercussions globally.

Are you perfectly aware of the gdp to external debt ratio? Europeans are far worse it appears to me. I’ve know about japan for years. It’s increased also from what I see from 200% to 250% of the public debt in a few years.

External debt to gdp

US 97%.

These numbers speak for themselves.

UK 265%
Germany 160%
France 226%
Italy 148%
Belgium 306%
Ireland 898%
Netherlands 524%
Switzerland 249%

Nigeria is 9%, i only guess that is because nobody will loan them money.

Only China GDP comes even close 19 trillion US, China is 11 trillion.
The rest are fractions of output.

Argentina and Mexico’s external ratios are far better than Europes.

 

[offthehandle]

Trump

Just like CNN, you report one side only. You omitted this from years before.

“A former Obama campaign official is claiming that Facebook knowingly allowed them to mine massive amounts of Facebook data — more than they would’ve allowed someone else to do — because they were supportive of the campaign.

In a Sunday tweet thread, Carol Davidson, former director of integration and media analytics for Obama for America, said the 2012 campaign led Facebook to “suck out the whole social graph” and target potential voters. They would then use that data to do things like append their email lists.”

https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-nps-official-usa-political-thread.764342/page-754#post-6626819

 

[JB Lions]

Just like CNN, you report one side only. You omitted this from years before.

It's 2018, there is only 1 President.

 

[mr-x]

But two different standards.

 

[JB Lions]

But two different standards.

No, both sides do this.

 

[mr-x]

No, both sides do this.

Only one side was banned from Facebook.

 

[JB Lions]

Only one side was banned from Facebook.

What company did it for the other side?

Tornado Warning, Take Shelter now.

 

[mr-x]

What company did it for the other side?

Tornado Warning, Take Shelter now.

??

What does it matter which company? Do you think FB, social media companies and media agencies were not rooting for a progressive, "historic President". If so, I have a bridge for sale you might be interested in.

 

[mr-x]

Tornado Warning, Take Shelter now.

Sorry, I thought this was a joke. Hope you're safe.


Good outline of the double standard by Meg McCain on Cambridge Analytica. Told Obama team it was OK if they stopped by Nov.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/20/mccain-facebook-biased-conservatives/

 

[JB Lions]

??

What does it matter which company? Do you think FB, social media companies and media agencies were not rooting for a progressive, "historic President". If so, I have a bridge for sale you might be interested in.

It matters because you made a statement that only one side was banned. I assumed you had some information about the "other side".

And Trump shows his stupidity again. Looks like he had unprotected sex with a porn star, since Stormy Daniels passed her polygraph test.
Lie detector exam shows Stormy Daniels was truthful about having 'unprotected' sex with Donald Trump
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...tormy-truthful-trump-affair-article-1.3886268

Yes, safe, no tornado but brief heavy storm, have some (minor) hail damage, I think. Have to check more. Pool screens got jacked up.

So not only Stormy Daniels issues but Karen McDougal and Summer Zervos issues.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...sues-break-trump-silence-agreement/442472002/

 

[enlytend]

Facebook began allowing devs to collect data in 2007, and back then were invited to do so, as long as they didn’t misrepresent themselves. Obama campaign accessing FB data was in 2012 - Back in 2012 everyone was harvesting data, including apps like Farmvile, Tinder... basically, if you could convince someone to download your app,or sign in with Facebook you could grab whatever you could and store it on your servers forever.

FBs policy changed in 2015 due to concerns about abuse.

And CA obtained the data under false pretenses -I.e. they misrepresented themselves. As far as the people granting permission knew, they were giving permission to an academic taking a survey. FB asked them back in 2015 to delete the fraudulently obtained data but didn’t follow up at the time.

 

[mr-x]

If you think any US political party hasn't or won't collect data without permission and use it unethically then you don't understand politics.

 

[lennco]