The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[johname]

Bill Clinton was the internet president, people getting 30% on their mutual funds, People thought the returns were the new normal. Even Trump could look some what pretty those years.

 

[mr-x]

Propaganda? It's the same Gallup poll for both Presidents.

Polls are influenced / manipulated by a number of methods. It's been happening for decades.

Clinton may have reached 73% with democrats

 

[JB Lions]

We don't know how many people have been killed by Antifa. In the 21st century

I don't know of any Antifa murders in the U.S., please list them, maybe there are some. But I do know of KKK murders.

Polls are influenced / manipulated by a number of methods. It's been happening for decades.

Clinton may have reached 73% with democrats

Same methodology, sorry. I guess you see how bad Trump's numbers are, that you're really struggling to make excuses for it.

 

[mr-x]

I don't know of any Antifa murders in the U.S., please list them, maybe there are some. But I do know of KKK murders.



Same methology, sorry.

Right, like you know.

 

[JB Lions]

Right, like you know.

You can always read.

http://www.gallup.com/178685/methodology-center.aspx

or

"Over the past decade, extremists of every stripe have killed 372 Americans. 74 percent of those killings were committed by right wing extremists. Only 2 percent of those deaths were at the hands of left wing extremists."

 

[JB Lions]

Polls are influenced / manipulated by a number of methods. It's been happening for decades.

Clinton may have reached 73% with democrats

Here are many more polls:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

 

[mr-x]

Here are many more polls:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

That's nice

 

[mr-x]

You can always read.

http://www.gallup.com/178685/methodology-center.aspx

or

"Over the past decade, extremists of every stripe have killed 372 Americans. 74 percent of those killings were committed by right wing extremists. Only 2 percent of those deaths were at the hands of left wing extremists."

Like most liberal sheep, you don't count the number of black people killed by black nationalist and gang members.

Like most liberals, you don't count gangs as terrorist unless people from countries south of California are fleeing them.

 

[JB Lions]

Like most liberal sheep, you don't count the number of black people killed by black nationalist and gang members.

Like most liberals, you don't count gangs as terrorist unless people from countries south of California are fleeing them.

So you're saying like most people, I understand the difference between black nationalist and gangs? Not even the same. You tried adding gang violence, which is a problem, add those numbers to black nationalist, while there is some, pales in comparison to white nationalist violence. Tried to be slick with that one.

BTW, on crime, my views would be considered Conservative. On personal freedoms, I would be considered liberal. Gay marriage, abortion, smoking this or that etc. Your body, your life, your business.

 

[mr-x]

So you're saying like most people, I understand the difference between black nationalist and gangs? Not even the same. You tried adding gang violence, which is a problem, add those numbers to black nationalist, while there is some, pales in comparison to white nationalist violence. Tried to be slick with that one.

BTW, on crime, my views would be considered Conservative. On personal freedoms, I would be considered liberal. Gay marriage, abortion, smoking this or that etc. Your body, your life, your business.

I'm saying your full of shit, siting a "study" published by left-wing political group using sketchy numbers and definitions to protect a group of communist / anarchist.


At least 11 police have been shot dead and at least nine more wounded by Black Lives Matter protesters, activists, and/or supporters to date.
http://dailysignal.com/2017/08/16/corporate-disavowal-black-lives-matter/

 

[JB Lions]

I'm saying your full of sh*t, siting a "study" published by left-wing political group using sketchy numbers and definitions to protect a group of communist / anarchist.

Hit me with some real numbers then, backing up anything you've said. Give me some black nationalist vs. white nationalist numbers if you want.

 

[mr-x]

FAKE NEWS: No, Mattis Did Not Defy Trump And Freeze The Transgender Military Ban
More fake news ...

http://www.dailywire.com/news/20460...ot-defy-trump-and-freeze-amanda-prestigiacomo

 

[mr-x]

Innocent Iowa Town Fights To Be Removed From 'Hate Map' And Wins. Amana Colonies was wrongly accused of hosting neo-Nazis.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/20456/cleared-innocent-iowa-town-fights-be-removed-hate-emily-zanotti

TL:DR Left-wing zelots, SPLC named a whole town a hate-group b/c of a website.

 

[Domainace]

Julian Assange ‏ @JulianAssange 13h13 hours ago
FBI just refused someone's FOIA request for Clinton probe files claiming a lack of public interest. Thanks FBI. You keep @WikiLeaks strong.

But, but... Trump tweeted a bad word!

 

[mr-x]

Julian Assange ‏ @JulianAssange 13h13 hours ago
FBI just refused someone's FOIA request for Clinton probe files claiming a lack of public interest. Thanks FBI. You keep @WikiLeaks strong.

But, but... Trump tweeted a bad word!

DOJ is still fighting in court to protect IRS for targeting President Obama's political opponents. You'd think a journalist somewhere would ask POTUS why.

 

[mr-x]

Hit me with some real numbers then, backing up anything you've said. Give me some black nationalist vs. white nationalist numbers if you want.

You want to play a game to justify your support for anarchist and communist organizations that want to destroy our republic, starting with the #1A.

Alt-left and Alt-right are mirror images. Conservatives, libertarians and free thinking people condemn them both for what they are.

Only main stream liberals and progressives support the Alt-left, rationalizing their violence and murder

 

[enlytend]

Although you may be getting that bias from whatever you're reading, MOST mainstream liberals and progressives do NOT support the extremist left, including nihilits and anarchists, or condone violence by either extreme.

Back in the cold war days, the old Soviet Union was a big supporter and promoter of radical leftist groups. The leopard didn't change it's spots. Russia intelligence is currently supporting and manipulating the extreme right (easy to pick out with Russian based social media bot activity), and almost certainly the extreme left as well. Supporting the extreme left adds fuel to the fire - and actually strengthens the right extremists by making them seem like "victims."

 

[GILSAN]

Julian Assange ‏ @JulianAssange 13h13 hours ago
FBI just refused someone's FOIA request for Clinton probe files claiming a lack of public interest. Thanks FBI. You keep @WikiLeaks strong.

But, but... Trump tweeted a bad word!

Perhaps they meant to say: a lack of Liberal Media interest?

 

[GILSAN]

Columbus Statue in New York Beheaded

 

[mr-x]

Although you may be getting that bias from whatever you're reading, MOST mainstream liberals and progressives do NOT support the extremist left, including nihilits and anarchists, or condone violence by either extreme.

Back in the cold war days, the old Soviet Union was a big supporter and promoter of radical leftist groups. The leopard didn't change it's spots. Russia intelligence is currently supporting and manipulating the extreme right (easy to pick out with Russian based social media bot activity), and almost certainly the extreme left as well. Supporting the extreme left adds fuel to the fire - and actually strengthens the right extremists by making them seem like "victims."

My statement in not formed in bias.

1) Antifa openly operates in Portland Or and other liberal cities around the country.

2) Since Donald Trump was elected President, the media and Democrats and media have justified their outrageous behavior, destruction of property and physical violence because of "their motives"..

CNN Chris Cuomo was one of many news readers and commenters to insist, "motives matter". You just watched JB Lions repeat the group think, they're against fascist so they are better than fascist.

Elizabeth Warren refused to condemn Antifa or BLM for their violence.

3) By eyewitness accounts, the protest in Berkley was mostly peaceful until the police let 200+ Antifa enter the park, then stood and watched.

This week was the first time Antifa was denounced as violent by two Senate democrats. TWO.

4) Members of BLM have assassinated a dozen police officers.

5) The media doesn't ask for statements condemning these groups from liberal, politicians.

6) Mainstream publications like WAPO and NYT have written editorials glamorizing them

Democrats and liberal media own whatever violence they commit.