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The USA Political Thread

Located in The Break Room, started by lennco, Jul 20, 2012

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Who is to Blame for the Troubled US Economy?

  1. Both Parties

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    45.3%
  2. Neither Party

    47 votes
    9.3%
  3. Democrats

    102 votes
    20.2%
  4. Republicans

    128 votes
    25.3%
Total: 506 vote(s)
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    For inner happiness, free your mind... trump buddha -.jpg
     
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    So about a third of that 2 trillion dollar infrastructure plan is actually going to infrastructure?
     
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    When it comes to freedom of speech, academics are in the crosshairs...

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    "Democracy thrives on conversations, but what we are seeing happening right now in the United States is not a conversation," she read. "It is a coup. Everyday Americans of all colors, creeds, backgrounds, and beliefs are being held hostage. Zealots are telling us, 'You're either with us or against us, and if you're against us, you're an evil bigot.' They are telling us, 'You're either part of the solution, or you're part of the problem.' They are telling us that all people may be classified into two sides: us or them, Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative, people of color or white, righteous or bigoted, oppressed or privileged. I don't accept such false dichotomies, and I don't accept the ad hominem implications that come with it. Too often, words like 'privileged,' 'defensive,' and 'fragile' are just ways to dismiss what another person has to say. Too often, words like 'racist' are just a way to intimidate someone into silence." Parrett argued that people should work together to solve "real problems like wealth disparity, poverty, job insecurity, unemployment, the high cost of living, or the fracturing of the nuclear family, whatever form that family takes," but are waylaid by those who claim the "real problems" are "racism, sexism, transphobia…[and] hateful words."


    https://reason.com/2021/04/05/a-professor-pushed-back-against-white-fragility-training-the-college-investigated-her-for-9-months/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/14/us/adolph-reed-controversy.html
     
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    Here's more detail. You can do the math... :xf.wink:

    Transportation:
    • $174 billion in electric vehicle investments
    • $115 billion for bridges and roads
    • $20 billion to improve road safety
    • $85 billion for existing public transit
    • $80 billion for railways
    • $50 billion to improve infrastructure resilience
    • $25 billion for airports
    • $17 billion for waterways and ports of entry
    • $20 billion to reconnect urban neighborhoods cut off by highways
    Water, Internet, electric:
    • $45 billion to remove lead pipes
    • $56 billion for modernizing water systems
    • $100 billion for high-speed broadband
    • $100 billion for the electric grid and clean energy
    • $16 billion for putting "hundreds of thousands [of people] to work in union jobs" plugging oil and gas wells and restoring and reclaiming abandoned mines
    • $10 billion for a Civilian Climate Corps
    Homes, schools, buildings:
    • $213 billion for affordable housing
    • $100 billion for school construction
    • $12 billion for community colleges
    • $25 billion for child care facilities
    • $18 billion for VA hospitals
    • $10 billion for federal buildings
    Workforce, innovation:
    • $400 billion for home- or community-based care for the elderly and people with disabilities
    • $180 billion for research and development, including investing $50 billion in the National Science Foundation and $35 billion "to achieve technology breakthroughs that address the climate crisis"
    • $300 billion for manufacturing and business, including $50 billion for semiconductor research and manufacturing, $30 billion for pandemic preparedness and $52 billion for domestic manufacturers
    • $100 billion in workforce development programs targeted at underserved groups, including $5 billion for violence prevention programs
    https://www.npr.org/2021/04/01/983470782/by-the-numbers-bidens-2-trillion-infrastructure-plan
     
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    A sound investment IMO, especially considering the US military budget is approx. $1 Trillion dollars per year! O_o
     
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    In contrast:

    https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/21msr.pdf

    Trump wanted more money for the military and, of course, more funding for the border wall.

    The president’s plan includes what officials described as $4.4 trillion in spending cuts over the next decade, with about $2 trillion coming from changes to safety net programs and student loan initiatives.

    The budget also included some $1.4 trillion earmarked to extend the individual tax cuts out to 2035, and an additional $1 trillion for infrastructure spending. Oh, and Trump wants $15.6 billion for the Customs and Border Protection agency (that’s on top of the $2 billion he wants for the wall itself) plus $9.9 billion for ICE, a number that would represent a 23% increase.


    Those reductions encompass new work requirements for Medicaid, federal housing assistance and food stamp recipients, which are estimated to cut nearly $300 billion in spending from the programs. The budget will also cut spending on federal disability insurance benefits by $70 billion and on student loan forgiveness by $170 billion.

    The budget will propose cutting foreign aid spending by 21 percent and, as in previous budgets, eliminate funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

    https://heisenbergreport.com/2020/0...gless-maga-budget-today-lets-briefly-discuss/



     
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    The President’s 2021 Budget: The Budget provides the necessary resources for DOD to protect and defend the homeland, maintain balances of power in key regions of strategic importance, and exert a sphere of influence that supports U.S. security and prosperity. Ultimately, the Budget reflects the President’s commitment to ensure America’s military remains second to none, both today and into the future.

    The Budget continues the Administration’s work to rebuild the military and improve readiness, while balancing the need for reform, efficiency, and accountability at every level.

    The Budget supports U.S. military dominance in all warfighting domains—air, land, sea, space, and cyberspace.


    Ref: section DOD pp. 33-37
    https://www.novoco.com/sites/defaul...dget_for_americas_future_fy_2021_021020_0.pdf

    Meanwhile... O_o

    Protects Free Speech on College Campuses
    The Department continues to support free and open debate on college and university campuses. Colleges and universities that receive Federal research or education grants must adhere to the requirements of the First Amendment to the Constitution and all other requirements of Federal law.

    Ref: p 42
     
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    I agree, but I also suspect too much of it will go to things that are not actually infrastructure, or to political cronies. But as long as they are committed to debasing the currency, they may as well spend some of it on something useful.

    So far as Trump, I am afraid you may end up like the guy in the post-apocalyptic picture. Biden is increasing Trump's Pentagon budget, and will almost certainly outspend Trump in every other area. So if these are problems for you, then Biden is the guy you should be complaining about. Trump once even said that they can print money willy-nilly and inflate their way out of debt. He just said it once, that I remember. Like in so many cases, Trump said out loud what the others keep to themselves.

    Of course, Trump had push back from Dems and actual fiscal conservatives (not pretend ones) on the GOP side. Now that Biden is in and the GOP is sidelined, look for unprecedented spending increases.

    To be fair, this would happen no matter who became President. Americans are addicted to debt, and no politician who gives them the truth will last a day. The plan is to print and spend and grow money on trees. When people start to lose confidence in the USD and it starts to lose its global currency status, inflation will soar. This will wipe out savings and be tough on pensioners. But it will also wipe out debts.

    America will be cheap and poor again, and will be a fine tourist attraction for middle class Chinese.

    And little of this has anything to do with Trump, who (need I remind you again) is a private citizen with no official power.
     
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    It wouldn't surprise me one iota that Biden will outspend Trump. Infrastructure spending is long overdue. Like I said before, I haven't even started on Biden ...and although opposed to previous Trump policy, I am no Democrat; however by default as a free thinker, exercising free speech in refute of excessive far-Right hyperbole, I have been classified a socialist or worse. That's okay, my corporate finances are balanced, I don't collect nor require any Covid benefits (like CERB or Stimulus checks, unemployment, or welfare). :xf.cool:
     
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    It is. And it has been ignored for so long that I don't think they will be able to address it before the economy tanks completely. Even in this package, we see a lot of non-infrastructure expenses. And, while chip manufacturing might arguably be considered infrastructure, the global and complex nature of it means that throwing money at the problem is just a waste of funds. Though I suppose some rich guy will get even richer from it.

    Look at any country that has a failed economy, it's marked by bad roads, old bridges and decayed infrastructure. The USA already has all this, and they had the money to do better. Now they are going to play catch-up as their economy falls behind? I don't think so.
     
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    That's a valid argument. The only difference being priorities and the policies. However these are interesting times, the world is changing, and we must evolve with it for everyone's sake. There is still hope for the land (the fractured state), but only by working together to save the future. There's really no argument from this observer's perspective, merely spear throwing at a wall. I don't believe there would have been any room for debate had the election results been different. It must feel ticklish for someone so outspoken to be muzzled.
     
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    If you're talking about Trump, he was an imperfect answer to a problem. The real issue are the Americans who felt so ignored and marginalized that they voted for Trump because he was the only politician to even recognize their existence.

    And from all indications, it looks like the Biden White House is going to double down on that marginalization. If that happens, things are going to get much worse. How long before people stop even trying to be heard and just decide to blow up the system? My hunch is that the Democrats are hoping exactly for that. Then they can say, "See? We told you those deplorables were a threat to our country." This will be followed by new sweeping powers given to government. By executive action, of course.

    Americans are so blind to this that they are ripe for the picking.
     
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    There is an element of truth to that, but he certainly preached to the choir. How does one achieve parity, or even reconcile these differences with policies that do not help those who are less fortunate, nor benefit society as whole? It has been clearly demonstrated, democracy has holes, lots of loop-holes, particularly for those in power.

    How does Joe plan to reconcile differences if that is even his objective? Outspending the previous administration is one way, surely to run a deficit, not only to appease to the masses but to create enough inertia to keep the wheels of progress turning in that direction. We'll see which way the chips fall when the dust settles.
     
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    media mor friendly to Biden tomfoolery

    God bless you, Peter Doocy.
     
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    Biden's plan for withdrawing troops from Afghanistan

    The troop drawdown will begin before May 1, the deadline for complete withdrawal is September 11, 2021 or sooner. There are roughly 2,500 troops stationed in Afghanistan.

    Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., called the strategy “a disaster in the making. A full withdrawal from Afghanistan is dumber than dirt and devilishly dangerous,” Graham said in a statement. “President Biden will have, in essence, cancelled an insurance policy against another 9/11.”

    A government official said other troops serving in Afghanistan from allied countries will also withdraw.

    “President Biden will give our military commanders, the time and space, they need to conduct a safe and orderly withdrawal, not just U.S. forces but of allied forces as well on the principle of: in together, out together,” the official said. “And so, we will take the time we need to execute that and no more time than that.”


    https://news.yahoo.com/biden-withdraw-troops-afghanistan-september-163800648.html
     
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    From the covid hoax to the climate change hoax. Right on cue.

     
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    James O'Keefe joins Sean Hannity on Fox News to discuss Project Veritas' new #ExposeCNN bombshell


    "You're not going to get me to say anything."
    No pal, we've already got ya. :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
     
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    Covid is no practical joke, nor does guzzling Cool-aid solve Global Warming. :sorry:

    How otherwise intelligent people can be so blind and/or short-sighted is difficult to fathom. :xf.rolleyes:
     

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