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None of your f*cking business. Go shove your nose somewhere else!
That's what I thought.
So how many fake accounts did you lose?
 
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Remember Merrick Garland?

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Witnesses 'Must Testify' At Impeachment Trial, Declares GOP Group. 'Call Your Senators.'

Mary Papenfuss, December 21, 2019
A new TV ad by a Republican group will urge Americans to contact their senators and demand that witnesses be called in the upcoming Senate impeachment trial of President Donald Trump.

The spot by Republicans for the Rule of Law, a group critical of Trump, focuses on four key witnesses: John Bolton, former national adviser, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and Trumpโ€™s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani. All appear to have been deeply involved behind the scenes before Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate his political rival Joe Biden while the president was withholding military aid from the nation. Mulvaney, Giuliani and Pompeo ignored subpoenas to testify in the House investigation into Trumpโ€™s dealings with Ukraine that led to his impeachment. The House did not subpoena Bolton after his attorney vowed to fight it in court.

โ€œThese witnesses must testify,โ€ states a narrator in the new ad. โ€œCall your senators now.โ€

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said on Tuesday that that no new witnesses will be called. He has indicated he wants the process over as quickly as possible.

House leaders are currently holding back on passing the articles of impeachment to the Senate until they can be assured of a full trial โ€” with witnesses.

The new ad was unveiled Saturday by conservative commentator and a leader of the GOP group, Bill Kristol. It will run the next two week in targeted states, though he did not reveal which ones.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-for-the-rule-of-law-impeachment-witnesses-030110333.html

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In leaked audio, a top Trump adviser said the Republican party has 'traditionally' relied on voter suppression

Business Insider โ€ขDecember 21, 2019
Associated Press

  • Leaked audio reveals a top adviser to Trump's 2020 re-election campaign said "traditionally it's always been Republicans suppressing votes in places" during an event for Wisconsin Republicans.

  • The senior political adviser, Justin Clark, told the Associated Press that the remarks were referring to historic, false accusations that Republicans engage in voter suppression tactics.

  • But in the recording, obtained by a liberal group and provided to the AP, Clark followed up his statement by saying "Let's start playing offense a little bit. That's what you're going to see in 2020."

  • Clark made the comments alongside a discussion of what Trump's re-election strategy in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania will look like โ€“ a "blue wall" of states the president won in 2016.

  • Visit Business Insider's homepage for more stories.
One of President Donald Trump's top re-election advisers told a group of influential Wisconsin Republicans that voter suppression is "traditionally" part of the party's election strategy in battleground states, the Associated Press reports.

Now, Justin Clark, an attorney and one of Trump's senior political advisers, says he was referring to the historic, false accusations that the Republican Party suppresses votes to win elections.

At a November 21 event meeting of the Republican National Lawyers Association's Wisconsin chapter, Clark spoke for about 20 minutes, and the speech was recorded by a liberal advocacy group and provided to the AP.

"Traditionally it's always been Republicans suppressing votes in places," Clark told the group, which included Wisconsin State Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald and the executive director of the state's Republican party.

"Let's start protecting our voters," he continued, partly referring to Election Day monitoring of polling places. "We know where they are [...] Let's start playing offense a little bit. That's what you're going to see in 2020. It's going to be a much bigger program, a much more aggressive program, a much better-funded program."

The recording was taken at the country club where the event was held in Wisconsin by the liberal group American Bridge and provided to the AP by One Wisconsin Now, a liberal advocacy group based in Madison.

In addition to his comments on voter suppression, Clark expanded on the re-election strategy for the "blue wall" of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, which Trump won in 2016. The states are presumed to be critical for the 2020 election, and both parties have spent millions campaigning in the region.

The renewed interest in Election Day monitoring comes after a judge lifted a 1982 decree that barred the Republican National Convention from "ballot security" efforts that Democrats characterized as voter intimidation, particularly of black voters, in that year's New Jersey gubernatorial election. The federal lawsuit claimed the GOP stationed off-duty police in urban polling places with "National Ballot Security Task Force" wristbands, some carrying visible guns.

Clark told the AP that his point was "Republicans have historically been falsely accused of voter suppression and that it is time we stood up to defend our own voters." He said he did not condone anyone's vote being "diluted" and that "our efforts will be focused on preventing just that."

He also made remarks that accused Democrats of "cheating" in rural areas of Wisconsin around mid-size cities like Green Bay, but did not elaborate on how the party cheats, and there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the state. Clark said the campaign would "focus on these places" if they could recruit enough staffers, which is part of Trump's re-election strategy.

The Trump 2020 campaign didn't immediately respond to Business Insider's request for comment.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/leaked-audio-top-trump-adviser-174244532.html
 
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In leaked audio, a top Trump adviser said the Republican party has 'traditionally' relied on voter suppression

Sigh...

More fake news. No tape, because that would provide context. Not that it wouldn't go over most Dem voters' heads.

This daily nonsense of making stuff up... and you talk about Trump's lies. Your whole party does it daily.
 
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Column: Trumpโ€™s tax cut was a mammoth fraud

https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/steve-chapman/ct-column-trump-tax-cut-2017-chapman-20191220-pp6eha6ktbhyxpwiagcrzuvqmm-story.html

โ€œThe biggest downside, though, is the total cost of the measure, which the bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget now estimates at $1.9 trillion over 10 years. Far from being a โ€œrevenue producer,โ€ it has been a revenue loser. CRFB said last year that revenue fell 5.4% in inflation-adjusted dollars and 8.1% as a share of the economy.

The budget deficit, thanks in part to the tax bill, has nearly doubled under Trump, from $665 billion in 2017 to a projected $1.1 trillion this year. Itโ€™s on track to exceed $1 trillion in each of the next three years. The total federal debt โ€” which Trump promised... to pay off in eight years โ€” has risen by more than $3 trillion since he arrived.โ€​

(What happened to the โ€œfiscally responsibleโ€ GOP?)

But hey the economy is booming โ€œlike weโ€™ve never seen before.โ€

Yeah. Right.

Overall govโ€™t spending is increasing at a far higher rate than revenue. Part of the new revenue is from tarriffs - which are essentially a tax on the American people.

โ€œBut the stock marketโ€

Yep. Way up. Iโ€™m benefitting from it.

Only about 55% of Americans own stocks in any form (stocks, mutual funds, 401k...)

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In some parts of the country itโ€™s far less. In Louisiana, itโ€™s less than 10%.
 
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White House official ordered aid to Ukraine be withheld 90 minutes after Trump call with Ukraine president, documents show

OLIVIA RUBIN, โ€ขDecember 22, 2019
White House officials requested that aid to Ukraine be held within 90 minutes of President Donald Trump's phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, according to newly obtained documents.

While the Trump administration has yet to release a single document subpoenaed by Congress during its impeachment inquiry of the president, the administration was forced to hand over a second round of communications between two government offices that helped withhold $400 million in military aid to Ukraine.

According to a rough transcript released by the White House, the July 25 call between Trump and Zelenskiy took place between 9:03 and 9:33 a.m.

At 11:04 a.m., an official with the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), Mike Duffey, sent an email to Deputy Secretary of Defense David Norquist, the chief of staff to Defense Secretary Mike Pompeo and the Pentagon's chief financial officer telling them to withhold the aid to Ukraine, the documents showed.

"Based on guidance I have received and in light of the Administrationโ€™s plan to review assistance to Ukraine, including the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, please hold off on any additional DoD obligations of these funds, pending direction from that process," the email from Duffey said, according to the documents.

"Given the sensitive nature of the request, I appreciate your keeping that information closely held to those who need to know to execute direction," Duffey's email stated.

The documents, obtained Friday by the Center for Public Integrity via an order by a federal judge as part of a Freedom of Information Act request to the Department of Defense (DoD) and Office of Management and Budget (OMB), were heavily redacted.

"This new round of documents isnโ€™t enough," Susan Smith Richardson, CEO of Public Integrity, said in a statement Saturday. "But they do reveal how quickly the White House moved to cut off military aid to Ukraine."

The White House declined to comment on these documents on Sunday.........
https://news.yahoo.com/white-house-...thheld-90-145314205--abc-news-topstories.html
 
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:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: John, I'm not the one having a meltdown. I'm trying to give you guys some time to mourn. You've been on a little posting spree today, all over the place. When you're disliking my posts and having my posts removed, I can sense your pain.

Reporting pornography posted outside the adult forum isn't a meltdown, it's decency.
 
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Column: Trumpโ€™s tax cut was a mammoth fraud

https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/steve-chapman/ct-column-trump-tax-cut-2017-chapman-20191220-pp6eha6ktbhyxpwiagcrzuvqmm-story.html

โ€œThe biggest downside, though, is the total cost of the measure, which the bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget now estimates at $1.9 trillion over 10 years. Far from being a โ€œrevenue producer,โ€ it has been a revenue loser. CRFB said last year that revenue fell 5.4% in inflation-adjusted dollars and 8.1% as a share of the economy.

The budget deficit, thanks in part to the tax bill, has nearly doubled under Trump, from $665 billion in 2017 to a projected $1.1 trillion this year. Itโ€™s on track to exceed $1 trillion in each of the next three years. The total federal debt โ€” which Trump promised... to pay off in eight years โ€” has risen by more than $3 trillion since he arrived.โ€​

(What happened to the โ€œfiscally responsibleโ€ GOP?)

But hey the economy is booming โ€œlike weโ€™ve never seen before.โ€

Yeah. Right.

Overall govโ€™t spending is increasing at a far higher rate than revenue. Part of the new revenue is from tarriffs - which are essentially a tax on the American people.

โ€œBut the stock marketโ€

Yep. Way up. Iโ€™m benefitting from it.

Only about 55% of Americans own stocks in any form (stocks, mutual funds, 401k...)

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In some parts of the country itโ€™s far less. In Louisiana, itโ€™s less than 10%.
Its Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

The Republicans of today are Pod People. What else would explain it?
These are not the same Republicans from before 2016.

How else could one Buffoon of a President have such power over them?

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Again It's not President Trump's fault democrats in the house won't accept spending cuts.

Last time President Trump tried to cut spending the house refused and the Gov was shutdown and the same people blamed him for the stock market dip and public workers not being paid.

"Americans thought they got a tax cut. What they really got was a tax increase that hasnโ€™t yet taken effect. When you cut taxes but donโ€™t cut spending to match, as the Nobel laureate economist Milton Friedman often noted, you are not cutting taxes but merely delaying them. And total spending has not been reduced; it has been raised."

Best economy in American history and congress ( which is in charge of the budget ) won't cut spending.


Column: Trumpโ€™s tax cut was a mammoth fraud

https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/steve-chapman/ct-column-trump-tax-cut-2017-chapman-20191220-pp6eha6ktbhyxpwiagcrzuvqmm-story.html

โ€œThe biggest downside, though, is the total cost of the measure, which the bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget now estimates at $1.9 trillion over 10 years. Far from being a โ€œrevenue producer,โ€ it has been a revenue loser. CRFB said last year that revenue fell 5.4% in inflation-adjusted dollars and 8.1% as a share of the economy.

The budget deficit, thanks in part to the tax bill, has nearly doubled under Trump, from $665 billion in 2017 to a projected $1.1 trillion this year. Itโ€™s on track to exceed $1 trillion in each of the next three years. The total federal debt โ€” which Trump promised... to pay off in eight years โ€” has risen by more than $3 trillion since he arrived.โ€​

(What happened to the โ€œfiscally responsibleโ€ GOP?)

But hey the economy is booming โ€œlike weโ€™ve never seen before.โ€

Yeah. Right.

Overall govโ€™t spending is increasing at a far higher rate than revenue. Part of the new revenue is from tarriffs - which are essentially a tax on the American people.

โ€œBut the stock marketโ€

Yep. Way up. Iโ€™m benefitting from it.

Only about 55% of Americans own stocks in any form (stocks, mutual funds, 401k...)

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In some parts of the country itโ€™s far less. In Louisiana, itโ€™s less than 10%.

Happy Festivus: Rand Paul airs his government grievances, exposing $50 billion in waste

https://www.paul.senate.gov/news/dr-rand-paul-releases-2019-โ€˜festivusโ€™-edition-โ€˜-waste-reportโ€™
 
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Again It's not President Trump's fault democrats in the house won't accept spending cuts.

Last time President Trump tried to cut spending the house refused and the Gov was shutdown and the same people blamed him for the stock market dip and public workers not being paid.

"Americans thought they got a tax cut. What they really got was a tax increase that hasnโ€™t yet taken effect. When you cut taxes but donโ€™t cut spending to match, as the Nobel laureate economist Milton Friedman often noted, you are not cutting taxes but merely delaying them. And total spending has not been reduced; it has been raised."

Best economy in American history and congress ( which is in charge of the budget ) won't cut spending.
This Great economy is a House of Cards being propped up by millions of people working several jobs, mostly part timers working for minimum wage in the service industry buying too may things on credit.

Smoke and Mirrors
 
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Last election republicans picked up seats in the Senate. Probably pickup 20+ seats in the house next election.​
Remember Merrick Garland?

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