The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[rh2000]

Considering they are trying to undermine his election, no wonder. JFK didn't trust the CIA either. Now it seems Americans love their secret police. I bet former Stasi and KGB members are envious of their former rivals having such a docile population.

Don't worry. They won't have to undermine that fake election much longer. Its only a matter of time before trump will be thrown out the White House.

 

[JB Lions]

Iowadawg: This sh*t only happens in backward Islamic counties but no-one will talk about it because liberals will loose their sh*t.

JBLions: You racist SOB!

Mr-x: He's right. Only Islamic Gov's do that sh*t. Here proof,...

JBLions: You stupid racist SOB!!

iowadawg and mr-x - let's blame a whole religion based on the actions of a minority

JB - ok, Christianity is the biggest child molestation grooming gang in the world

iowadawg and mr-x - hey, we only agree with our line of thinking when we're talking about Islam

 

[GILSAN]

The Left refuses to blame Islam for the human rights violations occurring in Brunei. It appears, even mentioning it, is taboo. Nowhere in the Western World is it legal to stone people for being Gay. These violations only occur in backwards middle eastern countries.

Not just Middle East but also in dozens of African countries north of the Equator where Islam is the dominant religion

 

[mr-x]

iowadawg and mr-x - let's blame a whole religion based on the actions of a minority

JB - ok, Christianity is the biggest child molestation grooming gang in the world

iowadawg and mr-x - hey, we only agree with our line of thinking when we're talking about Islam

Here is where your whataboutism fails. Child molestation is against the law in the USA and not sanctioned by the Gov.

Some countries your upset we mentioned do allow girls under the age of 13 to marry.

 

[Kate]

In Florida, 16,400 children, some as young as 13, were married from 2000-2017, which is the second highest incidence of child marriage after Texas.[9]

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In some states, it is possible for a minor to legally marry even if they are below the age of sexual consent in that state. Between 2000 and 2015, at least 200,000 minors were legally married in the US. 86% of these marriages were to an adult. About 5% of the minors were aged 15 and under meaning they would be under the age of sexual consent anywhere in the USA.[2] State laws on age of sexual consent and age of marriage are very inconsistent. In some cases, judges who approve underage marriages are approving a marriage between a rapist and their victim.[34]

Oops

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States

 

[mr-x]

Muslims in Nigeria killed 120 Christians a few weeks ago. I don't blame very person who lives in Nigeria.. just the backward jerks using Islam to justify mass murder.

Oops.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States

What's your point Kate? Are you pretending child marriage in the USA is sanctioned by the federal Gov? People go to prison for that behavior ( **incest ) here.

 

[mr-x]

Why do liberals need to defend, justify abhorrent behavior because it's committed by a group they deem a minority?

 

[Haris]

We were talking about the punishment of it. Again, why can't you read? You blame the person actually imposing that punishment. Not the whole religion. Why don't we blame Conservatism as well?



omg, you're so stupid. I literally went over it, you even just quoted it. 50 majority Muslim countries, 10 have the death penalty for it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_penalty_for_homosexuality

Should be 0, but again, not all, not the whole religion. You have some majority Muslim countries that are very strict, some that aren't.

Well, actually as a Muslim I will say you can generalize our religion when it comes to homosexuality. Death is the punishment for it and no true Muslim can disagree with it. But unlike Christians we don't change our religion just so that people accept us. True Muslims don't care what anyone has to say, The Christians who say they are not anti-gay change their religion, they are hypocrites.

 

[mr-x]

Well, actually as a Muslim I will say you can generalize our religion when it comes to homosexuality. Death is the punishment for it and no true Muslim can disagree with it. But unlike Christians we don't change our religion just so that people accept us. True Muslims don't care what anyone has to say, The Christians who say they are not anti-gay change their religion, they are hypocrites.

You are correct, there are Christian hypocrites preaching we should change God's law. But Christians are supposed to accept people not their sins. Punishment is God's responsibility, not ours.

The Lord's prayer, forgive our sins as we forgive those who sin against us. Harder to do than say.

 

[Haris]

Muslims in Nigeria killed 120 Christians a few weeks ago. I don't blame very person who lives in Nigeria.. just the backward jerks using Islam to justify mass murder.



What's your point Kate? Are you pretending child marriage in the USA is sanctioned by the federal Gov? People go to prison for that behavior ( **incest ) here.

Well from what I have read from multiple sources, 160 Fulani Muslim men, women, children were brutally murdered by non-Muslims, whose religion was not mentioned but they were religious are my guess is they were Christian.

 

[mr-x]

Well from what I have read from multiple sources, 160 Fulani Muslim men, women, children were brutally murdered by non-Muslims, whose religion was not mentioned but they were religious are my guess is they were Christian.

Wild guess. When I search I see a lot of Muslim on Christian violence which is what I expected. In any case, I'm not condemning Islam but I'm not making excuses for people who do bad things in the name of religion.


** Survivors of Saturday’s attack said ethnic Dogon hunters carried out the deadly raid in Ogossagou, a village in central Mali inhabited by the Muslim Fulani community.

 

[Haris]

You are correct, there are Christian hypocrites preaching we should change God's law. But Christians are supposed to accept people not their sins. Punishment is God's responsibility, not ours.

The Lord's prayer, forgive our sins as we forgive those who sin against us. Harder to do than say.

Are you sure in Christianity punishment can only be given by God?

If that is true (I highly doubt it), then that's a difference between Islam and Christianity. Islam is a code of life, Islam guides us in every step of our life, politics, governance, war, eating food, everything. Just like there are rules in government, there are rules in Islam and Islam is our government and we have to obey the rules.

 

[mr-x]

Radical Islamists Have Opened a New Front in Mali
Local grievances are behind the recent violence in the country. Jihadis are hoping to exploit them to build a caliphate.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/29/radical-islamists-have-opened-a-new-front-in-mali/

 

[mr-x]

Are you sure in Christianity punishment can only be given by God?

Yes. Jesus Christ, the word of God, the Son of Man, was born of a virgin woman by the holy spirit. He lead a perfect human life while facing all the trials we face, and was a willingly sacrifice to pay four our sins.

Judgement belongs to him.

If that is true (I highly doubt it), then that's a difference between Islam and Christianity. Islam is a code of life, Islam guides us in every step of our life, politics, governance, war, eating food, everything. Just like there are rules in government, there are rules in Islam and Islam is our government and we have to obey the rules.

Jesus Christ didn't change the 10 commandments. He didn't change God's law, he fulfilled it.

 

[Haris]

Wild guess. When I search I see a lot of Muslim on Christian violence which is what I expected. In any case, I'm not condemning Islam but I'm not making excuses for people who do bad things in the name of religion.


** Survivors of Saturday’s attack said ethnic Dogon hunters carried out the deadly raid in Ogossagou, a village in central Mali inhabited by the Muslim Fulani community.

Read some more, the wiki page for Dogon people, they follow different religions so can't say who the attackers were, sorry about my guess.

 

[Haris]

Radical Islamists Have Opened a New Front in Mali
Local grievances are behind the recent violence in the country. Jihadis are hoping to exploit them to build a caliphate.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/29/radical-islamists-have-opened-a-new-front-in-mali/

Yes of course "Jihadis will exploit" grievances of Muslims all around the world, the torture and killing of Muslims in Burma, Kashmir, Syria, Iraq, and elsewhere. What it means by "Jihadis will exploit"? How do Jihadis exploit? All these news headlines are ridiculous. It's not exploitation, A 'normal' peaceful Muslim is not exploited by a 'terrorist' Muslim, it's a desire for revenge that grows in the heart of the peaceful Muslim after continuous persecution. Non-muslims can have that desire too if they are persecuted in a Muslim country as well and I would understand that, Non-muslims should understand that too, it's nothing special it's human nature. Soon if Buddhists start getting killed in Burma no one should act surprised. I am not advocating/supporting/inciting murder just stating the obvious consequences. The reaction of the international community when a Muslim gets persecuted is nothing compared to when the Muslim reacts violently. I am not surprised by anything going on around the world, to us Muslims these are just 1400 years old prophecies becoming true.

 

[GILSAN]

Dogon People's Religion
Most Dogon people practice a religion that involves belief in certain supernatural beings (spirits) and ancestor worship. A small number of the Dogon tribe practice Christianity and a small number practice Islam. In the main Dogon religion Amma is the name of the main god. He is the creator, knows all, and is the master of life and death. Amma is the creator of three other supernatural entities who are listed below.
https://interesting-africa-facts.com/Africa-People/Dogon-Tribe.shtml

 

[JB Lions]

Why do liberals need to defend, justify abhorrent behavior because it's committed by a group they deem a minority?

Nobody is justifying it, that's your reading issues again. The reply will go with this comment:

Well, actually as a Muslim I will say you can generalize our religion when it comes to homosexuality. Death is the punishment for it and no true Muslim can disagree with it.

Again, 40 out of 50 majority Muslim countries, there is no death penalty for it. So no, most Muslims don't agree with it. It's a way somebody can use as control. Not everybody is into Sharia.

Muslims in Nigeria killed 120 Christians a few weeks ago. I don't blame very person who lives in Nigeria.. just the backward jerks using Islam to justify mass murder.

The bs was taken apart about 2 weeks ago, it was about control of land - https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-nps-official-usa-political-thread.764342/page-1338#post-7152062

You got that off some anti-Muslim Christian site, that post lies.

 

[JB Lions]

This is the cowardly President:

...The problem is, no matter what the Radical Left Democrats get, no matter what we give them, it will never be enough. Just watch, they will Harass & Complain & Resist (the theme of their movement). So maybe we should just take our victory and say NO, we’ve got a Country to run!
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago

The "no" is him talking about the report being released. He was scared leading up to it, he's scared still. April 15 at the latest.

 

[JB Lions]

Little add on to my other post:

Majority of American Muslims Now Support Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual People

https://www.hrc.org/blog/majority-of-american-muslims-now-support-lesbian-gay-and-bisexual-people