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Hey everyone,
Here's my first attempt at a helpful article for us NP'ers: Domain Apprasial. If this isn't in the right section, please move it ;)

Article: How to better help a domain owner determine a domain's value


Many appraisers on NamePros simply post "Low to mid $xx" or "Low $xx IMO" or "High $xxx" without stating a reason for his/her valuation. In this thread, I hope to better the NamePros appraisal forum by providing suggestions for how appraisers can better assist the owner of a domain determine the value of his/her name in several different situations. To start off, let's look at the different types of major extensions in the most common order of what they're worth.

.com is the commercial extension. Typically, .com domains are worth the most.
.net used to be a "network" extension; however, it fits forums well and is used when the .com version of a domain isn't available.
.org is the most 'restricited' of the top 3 TLD's. By 'restricted', I mean that many .org names aren't worth much at all unless they are obviously useable for a nonprofit organization. Recently, however, with many other TLD's being taken, the value of a good .org has increased.
.biz is the business extension. Although not widely used, some businesses do have .biz domains. A commercial keyword ending with .biz can be quite valuble.
.us means .United States. Domains that would be usable to a United States reseller aiming its products at the U.S. market can be worth a good amount in .us.
.info domains are an intereted batch. .info domains can be registered for under $3; additionally, a premium .info domain is typically worth less than a premium .com or .net. There are exceptions; some buyers do indeed value .info's over other domains because of factors such as universality.

When appraising a domain, be sure to keep the following factors in mind: keyword frequency, length of the name, extension and relevancy of the extension.
Keyword frequency in search can be determined using the Google AdWords Keyword Tool. The more searches conducted on a particular keyword or set of keywords, the more valuble that keyword or set of keywords is as a domain name.
Length of the domain name is another important factor; users have an easier time remembering shorter names. In addition, longer domains may recieve less traffic than competitors because users simply don't want to type in computerdiscussions.com when they could go to pctalk.com, which is (let's pretend, at least) of similar or equal quality.
Relevancy of the extension is the most important factor in appraising a domain name. For example, EuropeanUnion.us does not fit its extension in that the EU is not a United States body. Another example: buycars.org may try to be a commercial site. However, since .org is typically used for non-profit groups, the site may not have much success.

Remember to keep all of the factors in mind when appraising a domain. Also, say more than "Mid $xx". Tell the owner what he/she needs to know to develop a sense of the domain's value.

~ Also include what you would pay ~

Recently, many appraisals here at NP have been based around what the appraiser thinks the value of the domain name is to a another reseller and to an end user. That's good, but it may not be all that helpful to the owner of the domain being appraised. Why?

The real value of a domain is what it sells for.
If you think that someone else may pay $250 (low $xxx) for a domain, but you're a frequent domain buyer and you're only willing to pay $25, then you should state that in the post. Tell the owner what you would pay, even if it's only $5. Here's why: if 5-15 appraisers are only willing to pay $5, the domain is likely worth $5 in the reseller market.

Example: if your domain recieves 10 appraisals, and 8 people say that it's only worth $10 because they aren't looking to develop a website around such a topic, then it gives the owner a good idea of what the domain is actually worth to domain resellers.

However, if the two remaining appraisers would pay $xxx because they plan to develop a website around that topic or may be interested in or capable of doing so, then the owner has an idea of approximately what percentage of the domain/website development market his or her domain name is marketable to.

Summary: in addition to reseller & development value estimations, tell the owner of a domain what you personally would pay for the domain, no matter how low, because a domain is only worth what it sells for.

~ Example: ~

Sports.us is the domain being appraised. You'd go to Overture and find that many people searched for "sports". You realize that sports are played in the United States, so the extension is relevant. The domain is short and sweet, adding to its value. Also, there are tons of results on Google for "sports". So you'd say:

"Since 'sports' had X searches this January on Overture and since it's very short and memorable, I'd say you could sell it for [price] to an end user and [price] to a domain investor. The extension doesn't hurt if you can find a user with a sports site targeting the United States market."

~ Example #2: ~

MarketForums.net is the domain being appraised (using this one b/c I own it). I'm the appraiser. I go to Overture and find high results for 'market' and 'forums', but not 'market forums'. On Google, however, there are surprisingly many results for "market forums", probably meaning that there's a large interest in the subject. So, search results are OK for this domain. The extension would be better in .com; however, .net does not bring the value down too much considering that many .net is often used for forums.

For an international market forum, this domain is good. To a developer wanting to start up a United States stock market forum, however, MarketForums.us may be better. To a domain investor, MarketForums.net would be the pick over MarketForums.us.

~ Example #3: Country Code Extensions ~

Beaches.sc (also mine) is the domain up for appraisal. On first sight, you might say "Registration fee; the extension hurts it." However, upon using your friend Google to research the .sc extension, you find that the ext. was created for the Seychelles, a beautiful French archipelago and a great tourist/vacation destination. In your appraisal, you should include that because the U.S. market for tourism to French lands is down at the moment because we're munching on freedom fries, beaches.sc could be used as .South Carolina.

Overture tells you that there are hundreds of thousands of results for beaches in South Carolina like Myrtle Beach. Enlighten the domain owner to the fact that with a good amount of development as a South Carolina beach information site, beaches.sc is an excellent keyword domain and would be worth [price]. However, to a domain investor, .sc may mean "source" (like whois.sc); "beaches source" makes no sense and wouldn't be worth much at all.

~ Example #4: 3-Letter Domains ~
When your appraise three-letter domains, take two main things into consideration: if the letters mean anything or are an acronym and the quality of the extension. FYI.co.in is likely worth more that QYX.com because FYI means "For Your Information", whereas QYX does not have a widely known meaning. 3-letter domains (LLL - Letter Letter Letter) are typically more valuble than LNL (Letter Number Letter) or NNL or NLN names because they're easier to pronounce.

~ Helping the domain owner: ~

Tell the person who posted the domain all of this info, including what market(s) the domain would be most valuble in and why. It helps him/her get a better feel for the value of the domain in different situations with different buyers. You should also get a feel for the value of certain extensions and for whether the market is "bull" or "bear". To keep up with the market, frequent sites such at DNJournal.com and the NamePros sales forums to see how much names are going for.

If you enjoyed my article and think other NP'ers could benefit from it, please send some $NP this way so I can sticky the thread.

Happy appraising! B-)
 
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good and detail article....thanks...i hope that more articles like this will appear in this forum as it help us increase our knowledge...
 
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For a newbie on selling domains, this thread sure is an asset. Gave me some tips I'd otherwise not have known.

Please offer some more, so folks can get a one-stop education on the do's and don'ts.

CKL
 
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Thumbs up

Great article about the basics of name appraisal, thanks :hehe:
 
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Great article. I've been on NP for a bit but never had gotten around to reading it thoroughly.
 
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Appraisal requested :

al-qaedawatch.com (undeveloped)

I know hyphens are normally bad, but what about when they are actually part of the name?

This could possibly be sold to a counterterrorism blog, a news service, etc.

Thoughts?
 
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so what is a good average going rate for a .com domain
 
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Good Article!
But I think ".Info" is not that cool as ".net"
 
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Binfus said:
Like some other members, I also see no evidence whatsoever to substantiate the comments about .info.....(snip) Google, has no restriction on its use, has the broadest possible usability of all tlds, and (IMO) is the ONLY perfect match for certain terms/areas/topics...
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I have to agree, and add that in the future, as more and more tlds are added(some less useful than others) the very specific .info will only gain value.Furthermore, when inevitable(sp?) market-consolidation speeds up you will see marketshare monsters like Google,Yahoo, &others swallow up hundreds or even thousands of .info domains at every turn. When will all this start/happen? That's the only truly speculative side of this argument, but(IMHO) it's going to start and rapidly escalate within the next 10-18 months.
 
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mrfike said:
I have to agree, and add that in the future, as more and more tlds are added(some less useful than others) the very specific .info will only gain value.Furthermore, when inevitable(sp?) market-consolidation speeds up you will see marketshare monsters like Google,Yahoo, &others swallow up hundreds or even thousands of .info domains at every turn. When will all this start/happen? That's the only truly speculative side of this argument, but(IMHO) it's going to start and rapidly escalate within the next 10-18 months.

We domainers can think and know anything we want about .info.

That's not the point.

To someone who isn't involved with domains, such as a big company who wants to purchase a domain name for their site, they're going to want a .com and they won't see the value or purpose in a .info. In fact, most Internet users have probably never heard of a .info, much less visited one. You've got to look at it from their perspective.
 
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That was really great article.

I am now learning some stuff here now:)
 
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We don't believe in appraisals. CocaCola.info would be cool, catchy and easy to remember and the Coca-Cola company would probably get plenty of $$$ for it if they would offer it for sale. In the end, a domain has value only for buyer and seller, and just while the money changes hands. Before and after, the domain worths nothing until there is a new deal.
It is not because 1,000 people say a domain is worth $$$ that anybody shall pay it or not pay it. We think appraisals can be a basis for negotiation, but that's all. Remember AsSeenOnTV.com? Not cool, not catchy, just a remark, not really short, not yet registered - so no traffic, and probably originally appraised to the trash bin. We don't mind there is an appraising industry, but domains are usually valued downwards. Appraisers make money while domain owners must let go for little ROI.
 
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You know, I'm really a nice guy. But I feel harsh appraising most domains I reply to because it seems like people think up 2 words and put them together with a .com and think it's worth $1,000. In an effort to be kind, people say it's worth xxx developed but seriously, that's not domaining, that's development. In that case, you are appraising a website, not a domain name.

IMO a valuable name is one that has traffic all by itself, without development. A name might have value to a reseller or end user, but the true value of that name depends largely on the kind of inherent traffic it has. Take my website for instance - domaining360.com. By itself, I'd value the name at reg fee. The site has 1000 visitors a month and makes good revenue, but thats the value of the site and the name only adds value to that. But without the site, it's just not as valuable.
 
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great thread..now only that i really went to read it up..
 
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Wow thank you for this guide. It really helps
 
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And I am seriously upset when people tell potential buyers my prices are too high.

In despite of appraisals, I sold domains that have been called largely overpriced for exactly what I have asked.
The domain trader usually evaluates domains downwards if he's a buyer, and upwards if he's a seller. He does just some guessing as an appraiser.
Appraisers have no idea about what weighs most for both potential sellers and buyers, while it is just the sellers and buyers who take risks.
The potential domain end user who has the web office account (web site, databases, email, etc.) with a given domain, will rather consider inside information than any third party evaluation of his property.
If somebody wants a specific car, house, boat, partner, domain, he will negotiate anything near his budget instead anything nearby an appraisal.
I understand people trying to make a living from appraisals, but putting that certain types of character combination, name length, search engine placement, etc. have more value than others, is not scientific.
I don't mind about an appraising industry, but I think each appraisal should mention clearly (not in fine print, and not on another page) that elements unknown to appraiser can make the estimation irrelevant.
JR.
 
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thanks for this usefull guide...
 
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Don't Forget Total Search Traffic Value In Your Appraisal!

Overall, I think this article is quite informative and useful. I compliment the author for taking the time to put this together.

I do agree with quite a few of the comments here that suggest that domain name value is strictly determined between the buyer and seller, and what value it represents for them.

One of the things that I'd encourage people to consider in their valuations is not just the standard organic traffic that would occur from one typing in "theirdomainname.com" and receiving traffic, but also the traffic that is produced and generated from sound keyword research and what it represents to the search engines and bots.

Yes, if you have "xxx.com" and people are looking for "xxx", then wonderful. However, you may consider having "xxxyyyandzzz.com" because of it's ability to be found through the search engines for it's keyword value of "xxx"...plus "yyy" and "zzz". Combined with a sound SEO strategy, this domain name approach can actually be much more fruitful than even a traditional one-word domain name.

For instance, depending on the nature of keyword development in the domain name, one may give themselves an advantage by being able to easily optimize for various keyword combinations such as:
[hypothetical example]
"xxx" - est. traffic = 1,000,000 total web queries / month
"xxxyyy" - est. traffic = 750,000 total web queries / month
"xxxzzz" - est. traffic = 500,000 total web queries / month
"yyyzzz" - est. traffic = 500,000 total web queries / month
"xxxyyyandzzz" - est. traffic = 250,000 total web queries / month

Therfore, increasing one's odds substantially for acquiring search-related traffic by having "xxxyyyandzzz.com" versus just "xxx.com".

This strategy can get very sophisticated (dependent upon business model, keyword opportunity, etc.), but this should give you an idea of the direction the web is likely moving.

Granted, this will not work for all. So one would have to understand their business model thoroughly. However, depending on the aggressiveness of your Internet and marketing strategy, you may find that multi-keyword-driven traffic through the search engines is exactly what you need to boost revenue or traffic for your organization...especially with the difficulty in finding those impossible-to-find one-word unregistered domains.

In other words, don't forget optimizability in the equation for your domain-name-appraisal! This is what has made Google larger than McDonald's in market capitalization. If you do, you'll be selling yourself short. :)

OptimyzDomains

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www.OptimizedDomains.com - The Thought-Leader In Domain Name Theory And Search Engine Consulting
 
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Congratulations! Of all the things that I have seen posted on the many forums that I am on, this thread has got the most realistic approaches ever posted! Just type "scientific domain appraisals" in Google, Yahoo and Alexa. Watch how this domain is usually ranked in the top 3. It's a 3-word domain, it has 26 characters and the content is opposite of what the domain ScientificDomainAppraisals.com says. The whole appraising industry is based upon pseudo-science, wishful thinking and hope for self-fullfilling prophecy. If Coca-Cola sells coca-cola.com and starts using coca-cola.info, would anybody notice it? Ranking is only necessary if You need new customers. But a domain by itself is indeed totally irrelevant and has no intrinsic value. And indeed it's web content that mainly determines ranking. And the TLD doesn't matter at all in ranking. If You do some thinking, You understand why backlinking is also irrelevant. But yes, people live from the ignorance of others. Why not? It's business.
 
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Very informative, Educationa nd Realistic. It is nice to see that people are willing to share their experience.
 
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A really good attempt to write down what most appraisers think, but, this is in my humble opinion one of the main reasons why most domain people must eventually give up. Whatever a million appraisers say, a domain will sell how, when, where, and for the price that a buyer agrees to pay. Because the seller must agree to that, it is the asking price that counts. If the seller says "No" there is no sale. There is by now enough proof that objective domain appraising is impossible because everybody sees different parameters and even different values for the same parameters. The only scientific approach is to follow the basics of supply and demand. The appraisal industry is created by demand for people who are desperate to sell anyway to anywho, even with pants down. Appraisers always advice to sell low, while the motto has always been to Buy Low - Sell High. Guess why. My provisory .pdf report can be downloaded for free at Yourdomainadvisor.com. Don't give away Your property - Sell it to people who do have money. Not to those who do get later $$$$$$ for it behind Your back.
 
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very nice to see your post and i like to add few things that should be kept in mind while evaluating domains worth:- the name should signify the underlying Business, should be remembered easily.
 
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OptimizedDomains.com Domain Name Appraisal Guide

You guys are on point! ;)

The Internet, search engines, and the World Wide Web are indeed very scientific. They are based on emerging technologies, algorithms, linguistics, automation, artificial intelligence (i.e. latent semantic indexing), and more.

It's important for people to consider ALL of the factors when appraising domain names.

BTW, I posted this OptimizedDomains.com Domain Name Appraisal Guide in another thread, but it seems appropriate that we include it here to discuss it as well.

http://www.optimizeddomains.com/15/domain-name-appraisal-guide/

We created this to be a comprehensive and thorough guide to appraising domain names on the web...and a nice complement to all of the wisdom here on NamePros. However, we're always looking to update, enhance, and revise. (without trying to bore people to sleep, of course!)

Let me know what you think.

gausap23 said:
very nice to see your post and i like to add few things that should be kept in mind while evaluating domains worth:- the name should signify the underlying Business, should be remembered easily.

gausp23,

Agreed! We like to refer to this as domain name "memorability", or otherwise known as the ease at which one can remember a domain name. (check out the OD site to read more)
 
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