The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[liming]

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TelChina.tel sold for $4,992.

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Joke!

I am a Chinese. I don't think it can happen.
Maybe a fantacy story behind that. Let us wait that story.

 

[Ms Domainer]

Joke!

I am a Chinese. I don't think it can happen.
Maybe a fantacy story behind that. Let us wait that story.

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The sale was reported on this week's DNjournal sales site, a well-respected and reliable source.




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[Acroplex]

And this single sale somehow signifies that the overall .tel value increased 1000fold overnight?

Have you been watching the numbers?

 

[Ms Domainer]

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Plex,

Just announcing a sale, nothing more, nothing less. What of it?

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[siga]

I'm presuming its related to the fact that telnic released news this week that there is telchina.org
tel is getting launched in china.

 

[Acroplex]

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Plex,

Just announcing a sale, nothing more, nothing less. What of it?

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I'm waiting to see the hordes of .tel fandudes and fandudettes that will rush to register .tel domains.

 

[Kate]

Don't ask, don't .tel.

 

[doubleU]

Just came accross bigcity.tel currently being developed by Oleg Baskakov.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

I was clicking some random pages of this thread from the early days for a few laughs. Bumped back into this trainwreck where the guy bought $70,000 worth: http://www.namepros.com/3362074-post1750.html

The highlights:

I am biased because after reading everything about .tel that I could get my hands (or eyes) on, I ended up purchasing $70,000 worth of domains.

The view that .tel is the biggest technological development in the communication business since the development of .com is probably appropiate, and it is not hard to predict that it will produce major changes in the lives of most people in the next few years.

it is the best and most reasonable (and convenient) advertising opportunity out there

this use of the DNS will change the world

you might have a phenomenon with .tel that will change the face of how people do business everywhere around the world.

And the clincher.........

I'll look forward to see you guys in Time Magazine at the end of 2009 or 2010- you are visionaries and you made history

 

[ecigs.net]

It is acceptable to me to buy a few TELs for my small business so that I don't have to pay those Yellow Pages thieves at Verizon for a business listing at $249+ per year. Seventy Thousand Dollars, however, is a bit crazy. TEL is not really meant for domainers. Seventy Thousand Dollars could have bought a a couple nice LLL.COMs in this economy.

 

[doubleU]

TEL is not really meant for domainers.

Of course not, but what TLD is meant for domainers ?

 

[stefanb]

I am glad that I can entertain you Dub Dub No hard feelings here- I see your point and while your ideas seem unreasonable at times, you do make a decent point this time. I also agree with ecigs that it was a "bit crazy", but I have no major regrets yet- all of my .tel domains were renewed. I have been too enthusiastic about .tel at that time.

I still think .tel has great potential with Telpages, but Telnic itself was a little slow in promoting it and making common sense changes to .tel-last week I finally saw some common sense on their new Road Map in their Newsletter. They will finally try to improve their cth panel, including making the management of advertising and stats easier- maybe the new changes are related to their new marketing guy, maybe they saw the "light" some other way. Their Search function (Search this domain) still doesn't pick up many words on the .tel domains, and the user has to guess what is being picked up by their search function and what is not. Last I checked their search function was unable to find words in labels or links in .tel domains, a critical aspect for anybody trying to develop more complex .tel directories like Talfen.tel. If they don't explain what this search function picks up and their reasoning behind it, only God and them will know what is going on with it..... What I can tell you is that the .tel community communicated many of these common sense changes to Telnic a while ago.... Telnic might listen, but they have been very slow in improving .tel. Other than that I have no problems with Telnic, they are clearly very smart people and I think that they will get their act together eventually... Telpages and .tel remain great ideas, but Telnic has to make more noise to let people know about it.

There is still a decent chance that .tel will be a success in the next few years- we just have to wait and see. Meanwhile, I understand why domainers have doubts about .tel. And yes Dub Dub, I agree-no Time Magazine for Telnic and Telpages in 2010.... Let's be reasonable and wait a few years.

 

[SEOjmci]

I personally think they should open .tel for normal hosting, still they can keep their concept of global tel directory with sub domain.
so tel.yourdomain.tel as global tel directory page, yourdomain.tel for our personal site.

 

[ecigs.net]

Domaining is no different than collecting baseball cards.

Of course not, but what TLD is meant for domainers ?

Before you can sell something, there has to be demand. All you have to do is get a chart of which TLD has the most registrations. The TLD at the top is worth the most and the most valuable to domainers. If it is desired, it is meant for domaining. The real question that should be asked is this. Is TEL valuable enough to be of interested to domainers? Right this second, I don't think it is. Right now, it is a small business tool. In that function, it does well.

Domaining and domainers as words are problematic. All we really are is domain collectors who are domain collecting. Your question really means, what TLD is good for domain collectors?

IMO, Domaining is no different than collecting baseball cards. You want the card everyone else wants. That's the card that costs the most and has the most resell value. The new cards of untested rookies are speculative cards. With these cards, you have to WAIT for years to find out if they are going to be valuable. The players on these rookie cards have to prove themselves first. They have to become well known first.

In this case, TEL is a rookie card. Will it become a household word like COM, NET and ORG? That's hard to say. It might and it might not. A lot depends on the players, the TEL registry and how hard they push innovation. Are they up to the task? I don't know. Ask me in 5 years. Somebody has got to start hitting some home runs and breaking some records. Being a TLD isn't enough to be valuable. TEL has to become a TLD that people WANT or it is just a novelty.

By the way, I like TEL. I sure wouldn't spend $70,000 on a bunch of them. I do like the few I have. I don't plan to try to sell them anytime soon.

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I personally think they should open .tel for normal hosting, still they can keep their concept of global tel directory with sub domain.
so tel.yourdomain.tel as global tel directory page, yourdomain.tel for our personal site.

Or you could have an either or option. You log-in to your account, click a check box that says: Host with Us or Host Yourself. Done. I think you are right. This would help immensely.

 

[doubleU]

I personally think they should open .tel for normal hosting, still they can keep their concept of global tel directory with sub domain.
so tel.yourdomain.tel as global tel directory page, yourdomain.tel for our personal site.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it !

 

[Kate]

I was clicking some random pages of this thread from the early days for a few laughs. Bumped back into this trainwreck where the guy bought $70,000 worth:

That's what I call a leap of faith :O
But I seem to remember another NPer did the same thing right ?

I still think .tel has great potential with Telpages, but Telnic itself was a little slow in promoting it and making common sense changes to .tel-last week ...

Congratulations, you have reached Phase 5: Blame the registry

There is still a decent chance that .tel will be a success in the next few years- we just have to wait and see. Meanwhile, I understand why domainers have doubts about .tel. And yes Dub Dub, I agree-no Time Magazine for Telnic and Telpages in 2010.... Let's be reasonable and wait a few years.

Wait for a few more years ? I'd thought you would get it by now

I personally think they should open .tel for normal hosting

So what ? Is that the lifeline ? It would be yet another extension.

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It is acceptable to me to buy a few TELs for my small business so that I don't have to pay those Yellow Pages thieves at Verizon for a business listing at $249+ per year.

The point of listing with Yellow Pages is to get exposure, traffic, visits.
Your .tel domains are like billboard in the middle of the Mars desert where nobody ever visits. You have to do the promotion work yourself.
Personally I would toss a few $ at adwords instead.

 

[MicroGuy]

There is still a decent chance that .tel will be a success in the next few years- we just have to wait and see.

Does this mean you're renewing the $70,000 worth of .TELs you registered?

 

[stefanb]

Microguy, I don't know if or when I will renew these domains. I don't have to make that decision for another 6 months. I will keep you updated....
Sdinc, I don't blame the registry. I have no right to do so and as far as I am concerned they did not do anything wrong as far as I am concerned. We should all take responsability for our actions and our investments. I put $70,000 and other investors (probably smarter I assume) put 30 million if I am not mistaken into Telnic. They said from the beginning that it is not a domainer's domain. I criticized them in my previous post for being slow and a few other things, but I have no idea what it takes to bring a complex project like .tel to fruition. Anybody can have an opinion, mine was related to my expectations- and unfortunately that doesn't have to do anything with reality! Life goes on...

 

[Tia Wood]

This is the thread that never ennnnnnds
Yes it goes on and on my frieeeend
Some people...started registering .tels
not knowing what they were
And they'll continue trying to monetize a dead extension
Because they think it's nineteen eighty fiiiiiive

 

[doubleU]

This is the thread that never ennnnnnds
Yes it goes on and on my frieeeend
Some people...started registering .tels
not knowing what they were
And they'll continue trying to monetize a dead extension
Because they think it's nineteen eighty fiiiiiive

If you are so convinced that .tel is dead why should you and others alike post on this thread ?

Why should you bother anymore ?