The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[steveteva]

Steve, for yorkregion.tel I uploaded it with the free tool at populate.tel and maintain it weekly. It has 700 entries and takes 10 minutes.
Mark

Mark, this is a great tool to start but even this is a bit non convinient because of codes and I can see pages and pages for huge directories. If it was like a software like with entry forms it will be more easy for users to use it. Also I'm more for csv files where you have to enter datas with excell witch is easy as 123, any person can do and don't need any line of codes. That is how huge professional yellow pages directory websites are working, they import csv files, you can buy those database for any states, country, cities, niche.... I hope that if Henry from Telnic sees my post he will start thinking about developping a plugin for that.

 

[plaggypig]

Are you for real or just being a shill again?

Glad you asked. I'm for real. Are you for real? Just want to check that we're all for real.

Basing a directory business off a .tel profile was a key point of support in this thread among non-developers. I had been wondering why we weren't seeing any of these things actually being built.

Building commercial directories will come later - right now all I care about seeing is the growing adoption amongst individuals and small businesses, e.g. BlenzCoffee.tel (see what the owner said about it).

I also want to say that people building directories are obviously a small constituency and the TelHosting interface probably isn't very suitable for this; but the platform is completely open and we're free to build whatever tools we need. Several such efforts are under way.

 

[tkstark]

boracay.tel was one of the first city.tels populated, if not the first.

most of the tel directories i've seen have been unwieldy and i couldn't imagine anyone actually using them, but i really like what you've done with boracay so far. it's simple, direct and in many cases it takes only two or three clicks to get where you want to go. maybe the tighter focus is the key. i'm not sure general directories for big cities work well, but small communities, narrow subjects and maybe even neighborhoods probably work fine.

 

[hullswingerscom]

i was in whitby this bank holiday and my wife ask me to look on the net to find someplace to eat
l will was disapointed to find whitby.tel just pointed to domainmonster...

then i rememberd whitby .tel is one of mine....

now if name like this uk geo are just parked this can do little good for dot tel....

so ill do something with it ...and link it to other ukgeo.tel out there if any on the east coast

 

[MattheP]

If it was like a software like with entry forms it will be more easy for users to use it. .

Well, then just register ordinary domain with ordinary extension and put some free directory software like phplink and there you are

If I would like to build a directory site, I really dont know why I would go with .tel.

 

[plaggypig]

i was in whitby this bank holiday and my wife ask me to look on the net to find someplace to eat. l will was disapointed to find whitby.tel just pointed to domainmonster...

The idea is that you'd use a special purpose .tel search engine to find what you're looking for, rather than take a stab in the dark like that.

A new search engine is coming soon

 

[mjbenterprises]

The reasons I'd prefer a .tel for a directory are:

Speed-----the .tel idea is optimized with directories in mind

Ease of use-----the simple template actually makes things easier, and IMO, it fits the application it is trying to provide.

The click to call feature----as someone pointed out, .com COULD be used this way, but try it in real life, and you'll see the huge pitfalls, it simply will not work on a large global scale like .tel will.

Contact info--- With .tel your contact info is stored DIRECTLY on the DNS, the advantages of this are enormous, it makes things faster, gives you more control, and makes the data easily retrievable...

The mobile computing aspect-- This may be the biggest reason.. It will take mobile computing to a level never seen before, and this segment of the industry is growing incredibly fast right now, I don't see another TLD than can compete with these applications...

I think .tel is completely different than all other TLDs, and it may take 3-5 years to catch on, but it WILL catch on, because the applcations it provides are needed in a big way, and .tel was created with this need in mind... This isn't just your average TLD, IMO, this is something special for the future...

If I would like to build a directory site, I really dont know why I would go with .tel.

 

[Kate]

I also want to say that people building directories are obviously a small constituency and the TelHosting interface probably isn't very suitable for this;

I find the directory concept to be a stretch, after all .tel was designed to hold contact information, not to emulate websites. IMO this is an unconvincing attempt at monetizing what cannot be monetized.

A new search engine is coming soon

Oh yes, Bing. I will have a look at it.

 

[plaggypig]

I find the directory concept to be a stretch, after all .tel was designed to hold contact information, not to emulate websites. IMO this is an unconvincing attempt at monetizing what cannot be monetized.

It has nothing to do with emulating websites. You'll see as adoption spreads and all sorts of new and interesting services converge

 

[FreakySteve]

...If it was like a software like with entry forms it will be more easy for users to use it. Also I'm more for csv files where you have to enter datas with excell witch is easy as 123, any person can do and don't need any line of codes...

Teligator will be doing just what you are hoping for. If you want to see a sneak preview, check the videos from TelCamp Toronto.

Updates about it's release and more news coming shortly.

 

[steveteva]

Teligator will be doing just what you are hoping for. If you want to see a sneak preview, check the videos from TelCamp Toronto.

Updates about it's release and more news coming shortly.

That is good news, it gives a breath to .tel owners, can't wait till it goes public.

 

[steveteva]

I've upgraded my iphone to 3.0 and download mytel and superbook app.
Superbook is just awsome, I'add .tel contact and navigation is more convinient than iphone browser.
I'm just happy with .tel, what ever nasayers says in my mind I know that .tel is the best ext after .com
I ve navigated from usrealestate.tel and clicked on links witch are all .tel and it was like continuing on a smooth ride.

Also Mytel app was fantastic, I don't have to go to my telhosting anymore but from my iphone I can do same task with a mobile device.

 

[kprobe]

Mark, this is a great tool to start but even this is a bit non convinient because of codes and I can see pages and pages for huge directories. If it was like a software like with entry forms it will be more easy for users to use it. Also I'm more for csv files where you have to enter datas with excell witch is easy as 123, any person can do and don't need any line of codes. That is how huge professional yellow pages directory websites are working, they import csv files, you can buy those database for any states, country, cities, niche.... I hope that if Henry from Telnic sees my post he will start thinking about developping a plugin for that.

Steve, my tool is temporary and for small sites. Now that Freaky Steve has Teligator almost ready, I will actually start using his tool as it will be a commercially-supported and more flexible. I'm sure he will get it to support CSV. However with regards to directories, unless you host them on your own telhosting server, directories will be limited to 3000 records, so huge directories just wont exist en masse.

Mark

 

[igo]

Hasn't a good deal of the major speculative development, like monetelize.com, been done with directory building being the main objective?

It will be interesting to see what really takes off in .tel land. I would more inclined to believe that individual use of the .tel platform will be what really promotes large numbers being sold.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

It has nothing to do with emulating websites. You'll see as adoption spreads and all sorts of new and interesting services converge

What kind of services do you believe will spark mainstream adoption of .tel?

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BlenzCoffee.tel (see what the owner said about it).

That guy has a .tel logo in his Twitter avatar. I don't know what his relation is to .tel, but he is definitely a shill.

 

[plaggypig]

What kind of services do you believe will spark mainstream adoption of .tel?

A lot has already been discussed in this thread and it would take some time to go over properly, but I'm going to blog about it soon.

That guy has a .tel logo in his Twitter avatar. I don't know what his relation is to .tel, but he is definitely a shill.

He's the President of Blenz Coffee. He joined the .tel twibbon group to show his support. But of course, anybody who disagrees with you has to be a shill.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

He's the President of Blenz Coffee. He joined the .tel twibbon group to show his support. But of course, anybody who disagrees with you has to be a shill.

mobile.starbucks.com (automatically redirected from starbucks.com)
vs.
BlenzCoffee.tel

That is .tel's uphill battle.

They really need big business to adopt .tel, but when everyone has already done something else it's going to be difficult. PizzaHut, Dominos, WalMart, Sears, McDonalds, etc... etc... are all auto redirecting their .com's to designs optimized for mobile devices with FAR GREATER functionality for users than .tel offers.

I'd like to see the .tel pumpers address how .tel is going to get around this.

 

[steveteva]

That's why dot com is king but when the .com is taken and you can either way get a .mobi .tel.... that's fantastic. Let say there is pizza.com that belongs to pizza hotty, you can reg or buy pizza.tel to list pizza restaurants, well it's a win win situation.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

That's why dot com is king but when the .com is taken and you can either way get a .mobi .tel.... that's fantastic.

No, that is the consolation prize that nobody wants. When the .com is taken, you obtain an alternative .com.

Oh, and don't group .mobi and .tel together like that. 100% of what you can do on .com can be scaled down to .mobi since .mobi is something more than .tel data entry.

.mobi is for .com owners to offer a mobile version at. The mobile redirect that is now in common use has made .mobi obsolete, and that is why .mobi has now moved into the design business with products such as Instant Mobilizer That IMO is now .mobi's draw.

Let say there is pizza.com that belongs to pizza hotty, you can reg or buy pizza.tel to list pizza restaurants, well it's a win win situation.

Here we go again with this .tel directory malarkey.

Let's talk about legit businesses that want a mobile presence and not wannabie developers. Since we are domainers, we need the people who can afford to pay decent money for domains to become interested. The .tel directory builders are at the very bottom of the web development totem pole. They mean absolutely nothing to the future value of .tel.

Look at MOBILE.PIZZAHUT.COM and give me your most persuasive argument why they should have chosen PizzaHut.tel instead of doing that.

 

[steveteva]

No, that is the consolation prize that nobody wants. When the .com is taken, you obtain an alternative .com.

Oh, and don't group .mobi and .tel together like that. 100% of what you can do on .com can be scaled down to .mobi since .mobi is something more than .tel data entry.

.mobi is for .com owners to offer a mobile version at. The mobile redirect that is now in common use has made .mobi obsolete, and that is why .mobi has now moved into the design business with products such as Instant Mobilizer That IMO is now .mobi's draw.


Here we go again with this .tel directory malarkey.

Let's talk about legit businesses that want a mobile presence and not wannabie developers. Since we are domainers, we need the people who can afford to pay decent money for domains to become interested. The .tel directory builders are at the very bottom of the web development totem pole. They mean absolutely nothing to the future value of .tel.

Look at MOBILE.PIZZAHUT.COM and give me your most persuasive argument why they should have chosen PizzaHut.tel instead of doing that.

Don't think that directories are useless, that's what people though when entrepreneur like realestatedirectory.com bought all real estate dot com as he can for developping DIRECTORIES on it, just with these he make big earnings with listing from real estate agents and companies and ads.
This can be applied to .tel for pizza, hotels, taxis or any other generic .tel

You said: "No, that is the consolation prize that nobody wants. When the .com is taken, you obtain an alternative .com.", totally disagree, if you have any generic name everyone here is ready to buy if affordable and even high prices, so don't underestimate other tlds, check sedo or dnjournal other tlds are not "consolation prize that nobody wants"