The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[lexisdomains]

Demo Site For End User.

If this really is how you hope to one day monetize it...

"All Premium Calls & SMS transmissions are a one-time $2.00 toll fee."

... not gonna happen. Why should I pay $2 to connect a phone call when I can just go to Equifax.com or Transunion.com and very easily get them for free?

Thanks there DubDubDubDot!

I actually configured this site to Demo to 'End Buyers'. [ http://FCR.tel ]

I choose to invest in this acronym because its a better solution than the long-tail keyword phrase: "Free Credit Report", which by the way is a very HOT market!

In fact, if you did a semantic search on Google for this acronym: ~FCR , it would return results of the above mentioned longtail keyword phrase.

Recent Sale: FreeCreditReport.co.uk / $300,000

Thanks,

 

[Billy2009]

At this point. I don't think dot Tel will materialize and those that think they should register to take a hard look at the economy of the world and the domain market, and how dot Tel can't be monetize.

One could argue that because of the bad economy and the domain market reaction that .tel is a cheaper alternative [to a normal online presence].

 

[stefanb]

DubDubDubDot, I have no idea how anybody can compare the costs of doing business with Google with that of paying a minor fee for a .tel to actually have control over your own digital identity and publish your own contact information. Unless you are one of Google’s partners, most business people think of Google as a necessary evil with outdated and aggressive business practices fairly similar to those of Somalian pirates- pirates will not turn overnight to resemble Mother Theresa, unless they have no choice anymore. That was a fine way to do business in the dark ages of the Internet, but now it is time to join a more civilized world. Is anybody so clueless anymore to think that Google makes so much money nowadays purely by providing high quality info with their searches and all these bs free services that some of you are mentioning? If you talk with any individual or company providing services or products to the public, they can tell you that that’s not the way Google makes its money….

Everybody is a little uneasy about how Google might treat .tels because this giant has the balls to mistreat anybody’s name or any subject whatsoever in any of their searches, and they blame their pathetic search results on their imperfect digital algorithms- very smooth…. So what if on the first search page you can’t find anything relevant about my name except thinly veiled blackmailing schemes that keep asking me for money on a regular basis. Unless I pay, on the first Google search page often the only contact info available for my name is from my job that I changed last year- is that the best way to provide quality digital info to the public?

Just search for a name or any subject that you are familiar with (something like “telnic april 14 2009” or use any other date) and see how irrelevant, outdated and misleading the Google searches often are. People will find mostly misleading info unless somebody pays Google or their associates to allow some decent info in there. Whether Googles searches on Telnic reflect intentional unfair business practices that need serious legal investigation or just a flawed process often based on irrelevant algorithms I don’t know- but does it really matter anymore why information from Google is the way it is? Can anybody really justify the money paid to Google in terms of the quality of the information that Google searches produce? I find most of the Google searches on subjects that I am familiar with so distorted and misleading that I am often wondering why anybody would still find Google searches relevant in any way ….. .tel will be another test for Google, and .tel users will pay careful attention to how Google treats or mistreats the public contact information published with .tel by companies and individuals.

Greed is human and it was more or less fine while it lasted to get us where we are today, but now it is time to evolve and move to better things. We were all forced by Google and similar blackmailing circumstances to be in more or less the same boat in this respect…..

Google is still financially impressive, but not for long if they continue to mistreat published personal and business information like .tel and if they keep playing with information purely to make money without regard for the human component involved. .tel and other public platforms out there will put some pressure on companies like Google to straighten out their act … Google can collaborate in a civil manner or vanish, because history is and will be on Telnic's side on this one. Following how google treats .tel in their searches is convincing me that maybe it is time to go and do business with a more serious company offering more reliable browsing and/or advertising services.

You can already get phone numbers and websites on Google. DexKnows.com has also been running an aggressive ad campaign. Not to mention YellowBook.com. I can't imagine limiting search results to people who have paid $x to be listed.

Besides, you can already search by extension on Google:

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:.tel+bank

 

[tech4]

One could argue that because of the bad economy and the domain market reaction that .tel is a cheaper alternative [to a normal online presence].

If you look at the economy and overall domain market. I think you might say "what's the optimal choice" for my investment. Dot Tel or other extensions. Why Dot Tel? Why not invest in other extensions?

Most would say other extensions, the majority dot Com because those extensions are more optimal, more liquid than Dot Tel.

.tel is a cheaper alternative to what? not only cost is an important issue, Return on Investment is also another importance to consider.

 

[FreakySteve]

...
I love when filling out some web forms is referred to as development...

How do you know that MySpace is populating their dot-tel using forms? Dot-tels can be populated in other ways and if anyone has the resources to develop their own telhosting interface or custom backend, MySpace would be a big one. Although you can not host scripts on a dot-tel domain, you can use scripts and other software to interact with and manage dot-tel listings. Sounds like "development" to me.

I would also like to know why so many people claim that you can not develop dot-tel domains (lots of naysayers like to say this one). Is this a case of symantics for all of the software development snobs? So if a person is not writing PHP or C#, or some other code, then they are not considered a "developer"?

"Development" can have many meanings. People "develop" content in addition to software, data, algorithms, websites, directory listings, and other things. A static website with content is still "developed".

In general, to say setting up a dot-tel directory is not classified as "development" is just another example of the unadaptive and/or narrow view of the dot-tel naysayer.

 

[ecigs.net]

One can't actually develop their .tel.

What exactly do you mean by develop?

Here are four definitions of develop:

1. to bring out the capabilities or possibilities of; bring to a more advanced or effective state;
2. to cause to grow or expand;
3. to elaborate or expand in detail;
4. to bring into being or activity; generate; evolve.

What people are doing with TEL is closer to the definition of develop than what people are doing with the millions of parked COMs in existence. Though it might be limited at this stage (who is to say what will happen 6 months from now), at least TEL has a purpose.

 

[DN_Hunter]

.tel Transfers

Hello,

When you push a .tel domain to another account, how do you get its telhost account updated?

TIA,
DN

 

[onspec]

One can't actually develop their .tel. You'll probably see some info. plugged into an example and them explaining its benefits. I can't see .tel succeeding within myspace. You can do a lot more with a myspace profile than you ever could with a .tel, not to mention a profile is free as well ( hey, that rhymed :D )

Are you suggesting that the folks at MySpace are only after a money-grab? Do you not feel that the decision to resell .tels was thoroughly well-thought through?

MySpace likely knows their customer base a bit better than any of the sluggos here on our humble board.

Cheers,

I could only see the myspace thing working if they could make it possible to download your friends list in one easy step but then you get into some real massive privacy and security issues.
For myspacers I would think it would be more of a vanity thing with limited potential.

Good point..... let's see.

200 million + users. Let's say 2% buy .tels at $19.99. I gotta believe that MySpace cost per domain is TOPS $9.99 (but likely lower).

200,000,000 x 2% = 4,000,000 .tel sales

4,000,000 x $10 profit per sale = $40,000,000 profit (give or take)

Suits will be happy...

Cheers,

 

[onlinelife]

Check it out dnjournal.com/domainsales.htm
2 .tel domains made dnjournal.com chart
Brisbane.tel for $1,692
Adelaide.tel for US$1,392

 

[onspec]

I can't see 3L .tel's doing well. What would someone do with zqw or even something realistic like adf? Sure they could be abbreviations for a business, but that's a long shot.

Errrr... it only takes one... Remember iReport.com (Yes I know it's .com yada, yada, yada). 5 years ago it weren't worth nuthin'.

Cheers,

 

[DubDubDubDot]

200 million + users. Let's say 2% buy .tels at $19.99. I gotta believe that MySpace cost per domain is TOPS $9.99 (but likely lower).

200,000,000 x 2% = 4,000,000 .tel sales

4,000,000 x $10 profit per sale = $40,000,000 profit (give or take)

Suits will be happy...

2% is ridiculously high. This is an internet where social site membership is free. I don't see the socialites looking at MySpace, Facebook, Bebo, Hi5, Orkut and then .tel and seeing it as something they want to shell out money for.

 

[phase111]

2% is ridiculously high. This is an internet where social site membership is free. I don't see the socialites looking at MySpace, Facebook, Bebo, Hi5, Orkut and then .tel and seeing it as something they want to shell out money for.

Ive got a myspace account and I'd shell out money for one.. if everyone else on myspace thought like me, then they would sell to 100% of their members, think about that. :hehe:

 

[FreakySteve]

2% is ridiculously high. This is an internet where social site membership is free. I don't see the socialites looking at MySpace, Facebook, Bebo, Hi5, Orkut and then .tel and seeing it as something they want to shell out money for.

Even 1/10th of that = $4,000,000.

You may not see it, but I'm guessing the beancounters at MySpace do.

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What exactly do you mean by develop?

Here are four definitions of develop:

1. to bring out the capabilities or possibilities of; bring to a more advanced or effective state;
2. to cause to grow or expand;
3. to elaborate or expand in detail;
4. to bring into being or activity; generate; evolve.

What people are doing with TEL is closer to the definition of develop than what people are doing with the millions of parked COMs in existence. Though it might be limited at this stage (who is to say what will happen 6 months from now), at least TEL has a purpose.

Perfectly stated. :loveyou:

 

[DubDubDubDot]

I would also like to know why so many people claim that you can not develop dot-tel domains (lots of naysayers like to say this one).

Because "I'm a .tel profile developer." probably isn't going to help you pick up anyone at the club. Then again any .tel "developer" won't have gas money to get to the club.

This sort of directory is what many of you have in mind to emulate within .tel profiles and charge for...

http://www.yellowbook.com/yellow-pages-browse/?category=real-estate

http://www.dexknows.com/local/real_estate/

Is this a case of symantics for all of the software development snobs? So if a person is not writing PHP or C#, or some other code, then they are not considered a "developer"?

You seem to have a disdain for people who can code their own sites and actually make things happen. Why?

 

[Steven]

Is Myspace directly selling .tel right now or at least promoting it?

Anybody going to contact Myspace and find out what's happening?

 

[lexisdomains]

Google Latitude - SmartPhone API

Have you heard of Google Latitude?​

View It Now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Oq-9enE-k

Now this is a what it means to have vision! :gl:

Google is the master of staying ahead of the curve, because they are Proactive & maintain a solid business vision. Often times, this is where we, as domainers, tend to fall short.


What does latitude offer?

Latitude Features:

* See where your friends are and what they are up to
* Quickly contact them with SMS, IM, or a phone call
* Control your location and who gets to see it


Use For .TEL?

It would be nice if Telnic would consider adding this API to its existing .TEL interface. (where Google Maps would appear)


What are the possible benefits?

*More Social Value added to .Tel
*Possible Business Tracking: track outbound employees, packages, etc.

Share your thoughts,
(undoubtedly, some will turn this into something negative; Prove me wrong....)

 

[Steven]

Have you heard of Google Latitude?​

View It Now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Oq-9enE-k

Now this is a what it means to have vision! :gl:

Google is the master of staying ahead of the curve, because they are Proactive & maintain a solid business vision. Often times, this is where we, as domainers, tend to fall short.


What does latitude offer?

Latitude Features:

* See where your friends are and what they are up to
* Quickly contact them with SMS, IM, or a phone call
* Control your location and who gets to see it


Use For .TEL?

It would be nice if Telnic would consider adding this API to its existing .TEL interface. (where Google Maps would appear)


What are the possible benefits?

*More Social Value added to .Tel
*Possible Business Tracking: track outbound employees, packages, etc.

Share your thoughts,
(undoubtedly, some will turn this into something negative; Prove me wrong....)

It's a very interesting invention by Google.

Why would I need to use .tel (or any other tld for that matter) for it?

 

[lexisdomains]

Branding Purposes

It's a very interesting invention by Google.

Why would I need to use .tel (or any other tld for that matter) for it?

I guess it would be a matter of preference.

However, the advantage of .Tel is that it offers its users access to a unique URL resource (Steven.tel) as opposed to Google.com/latitude.



Well, have to wait and see! Undoubtedly Facebook & MySpace will follow on this social application.

PS: Check out how Google Latitude caught 'purse snatchers'!
View It Now: http://cbs5.com/video/[email protected]

 

[FathomJH]

This thread sure emptied out all of a sudden...

Kari.tel is at 300 euros on sedo (not mine). Looks like it was bought after landrush during GA. If it ends at 300, seems like a descent ROI for seller. Anyone else attempt to sell first name .tels?

 

[plaggypig]

edited, wrong thread, oops