The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[phase111]

Have you sold folders? a .TEL domain? Selling both seems like an extremely unlikely scenerio. Possibly beyond the reach of mathematical probability.

Are you suggesting reselling a .tel is unlikely? If so, what planet are you orbiting today?
Otherwise, If you mean selling folders (on a rental basis) and then reselling the whole domain after leasing the folders out, this should be possible providing the new buyer will honour the leasing contract to the renter of the subfolders, at least until the end of the lease contract. Much like buying a commercial or rental property. In effect, these domains can be viewed as virtual rental property online.

 

[chader144]

Are you suggesting reselling a .tel is unlikely? If so, what planet are you orbiting today?
Otherwise, If you mean selling folders (on a rental basis) and then reselling the whole domain after leasing the folders out, this should be possible providing the new buyer will honour the leasing contract to the renter of the subfolders, at least until the end of the lease contract. Much like buying a commercial or rental property. In effect, these domains can be viewed as virtual rental property online.

When you are renting out. Is anybody putting clause in their agreements for something like this?

I am running into this dilemma when deciding if I should start building a directory or just flat out sell the domain.

 

[phase111]

When you are renting out. Is anybody putting clause in their agreements for something like this?

I am running into this dilemma when deciding if I should start building a directory or just flat out sell the domain.

If running a directory, I would definitely have a well written contract that the person would sign, only then would I lease them a folder. In the agreement, you would have renewal information and state that the lease may be terminated by either side after so many days or months providing written notice is given, this would also serve the owner of the domain well if the renter's business activities are not within keeping of the standards expected professionally for this integrity of the domain. A well written agreement should keep both sides happy.
Also, the potential buyer of the domain would have to honour the agreements already in place and would take over this contract. That's my view on things anyway...unfortunately (or fortunately, lol) Im no lawyer though.

 

[MicroGuy]

Are you suggesting reselling a .tel is unlikely?

Yes. It's extremely unlikely that there will ever be any substantial aftermarket for .TEL. Your market will be the Telsters™ in this thread and a handful of other domainers. It may take you two or three years to understand, but eventually you will. IMHO.

 

[phase111]

Yes. It's extremely unlikely that there will ever be any substantial aftermarket for .TEL. Your market will be the Telsters™ in this thread and a handful of other domainers. It may take you two or three years to understand, but eventually you will. IMHO.

Yes, but your forgetting 'everyone else' Greg, for example...other bright people, like the highly educated Dr. that is not a domainer (although now he may be), that understand the full beauty of what .tel offers (which doesnt include dead or parked websites!) and want a piece of it. We're obviously not on the same wave length here, if we were, either you'd be buying up .tel's or I wouldnt be. I just dont see .tel and it's resale as being just for domainers or telsters, that's way too shallow a view, even for you mate...come on!
By the way, I'm surprised so many first names have either been pre registered now or landrush'd, it's amazing! And at $300 a piece too. I do think there may be a bubble created at the beginning...many low quality generics that have been registered will be worth less than the $300, so I hope these people are thinking of a long term hold, otherwise they may be a little disappointed if they want to flip these quite early.
Having said that, I think geo's and first and last names are a very good proposition, along with great generics (the shorter the better ideally).
As Jeff would say, just my two sense.
:loveyou:

 

[lexisdomains]

Going Live tuesday the 24th.

 

[Shahid7]

When you are renting out. Is anybody putting clause in their agreements for something like this?

I am running into this dilemma when deciding if I should start building a directory or just flat out sell the domain.

thats a very nice thing to discuss, i personally think it would can be done 3 ways.

1) charge people yearly and pass on it to the seller with agreement of previous clients

2) charge people monthly that way incase you sell the domain atleast you can refund the charges you took if the buyer doesnt wish to keep those links

3) advertise for free until its sold that way the domains value also increase due to its content density

i might be wrong but this is what i would suggest

 

[wot]

Yes. It's extremely unlikely that there will ever be any substantial aftermarket for .TEL. Your market will be the Telsters™ in this thread and a handful of other domainers. It may take you two or three years to understand, but eventually you will. IMHO.

Then not a huge difference from the vast majority of all domains whatever the extension that are sold to telsters- sorry- resellers- that's encouraging. :wave:

I have invested a few dollars in .tel and I, and I am sure the other investors, are/am very appreciative of your continuing concern for those of us that have done so- heartwarming. IM-HO.com

 

[ben123]

Hey to all,

I'm a total n00b. Can anyone explain me what means "The term of renewal is 1-10 years"?. Whats after 10 years?

 

[Billy2009]

Bugger! Just pre ordered a few more .tels yesterday for GA at domainmonster that surprisingly hadnt been taken yet, including 2x geos...oxford.tel and york.tel and all 5 were taken at landrush just a few hours later...I can't believe it

Hi, it is unlikely that these two names had really been dropped. I had the same experience at Domainmonster where 10 very good names were dropped. I pre-regged then a day later got an email saying mine had been dropped and they had been registered. Software fault happens often. So don't be disappointed!

 

[Kenny]

Hey to all,

I'm a total n00b. Can anyone explain me what means "The term of renewal is 1-10 years"?. Whats after 10 years?

Welcome to NamePros!

10 years is the maximum amount of years you can reg a name for.

After 10 years, you may renew it again for a term of 1-10 years.

Hope this helps

Cy

 

[ben123]

Thanks) That sounds fun)

Thanks for welcoming)

BTW, everybody's talking about GEO keywords? Whats the point of holding Manchester.Tel if you can't even have some sort of ads there (or can I?)? The only thing you have is just a contact information on Car Rentals/Airport/Schools/Clubs etc. Or it supposed to be like with Hotels.Tel? Companies pay you monthly/yearly to be listed there? How big does Manchester.Tel advertisement program needs to be before someone could achieve such goals? Some people don't even know extensions like .INFO or .ASIA exist, not mentioning .TEL here. Ok, Google friendly optimization, but that still sounds weak.

Is there any "justaname" value of GEO keywords in .TEL zone?

Or is there something I don't understand?

Thanks in advance.

 

[MicroGuy]

I am sure the other investors, are/am very appreciative of your continuing concern for those of us that have done so- heartwarming. IM-HO.com

My concerns are not directed to .TEL investors in the least. It's too late for them.

However, there are many cyberguests that wander into this thread and if the only voice present is from the Telster High-Five Team™, they too could become seduced into making mass donations.

 

[plaggypig]

My concerns are not directed to .TEL investors in the least. It's too late for them.

However, there are many cyberguests that wander into this thread and if the only voice present is from the Telster High-Five Team™, they too could become seduced into making mass donations.

I'd definitely like to hear from more contrasting voices, it could illuminate new areas of discussion, but so far I haven't seen you justify any of your opinions or calumnies with rational analysis or fact, and so I don't see what value or education it is that you think you're offering to the newbies?

I'd love to see you post a well thought out critique to the thread - if it's worthy enough to provoke thought then I'd buy some credits just to rep you and add the permalink to my signature.

 

[MattheP]

Well, i went to preorder some .tels for 15Eur, and all of them are taken.

My name is taken, and I am not going to buy myname1.tel or mynamesecondname.tel. Those names would be memorable the same as my current email address, my myname.mobi or mynamesecondname.com and i dont see the point of investing in my own tel.

My home town is taken - looks like one company took most of European capital cities.

Adult names in niches I already have .com sites are taken. Oh well

My girlfriend name is available - I preorder it, she loves that kind of stuff, although she has a nice .com

Well, thats my .tel story for now

 

[MicroGuy]

I'd love to see you post a well thought out critique to the thread - if it's worthy enough to provoke thought then I'd buy some credits just to rep you and add the permalink to my signature.

Just re-read this entire thread if you're genuinely interested.

 

[igo]

I remember during my first start up (on line booking with virtual tours) I was quite confidently told (by a Uniglobe travel franchise owner) that 'no one will ever book anything on the internet'.
I caution to 'never say never', especially with new internet developments.
I predict that .tel will represent a 'sea change' in information exchange. A simple directory - maybe.
I think if people look beyond TLD and DNS and see what can be done with such a delivery system, they'll possibly be able to imagine some potentials.
I think some domainers may be sensing that values in the dot whatevers may deteriorate when people simply click to connect. Won't matter what the domain is, it's simply a link.. much in the way people simply click search results. Do they really know what the site address is?

 

[phase111]

I remember during my first start up (on line booking with virtual tours) I was quite confidently told (by a Uniglobe travel franchise owner) that 'no one will ever book anything on the internet'.
I caution to 'never say never', especially with new internet developments.
I predict that .tel will represent a 'sea change' in information exchange. A simple directory - maybe.
I think if people look beyond TLD and DNS and see what can be done with such a delivery system, they'll possibly be able to imagine some potentials.
I think some domainers may be sensing that values in the dot whatevers may deteriorate when people simply click to connect. Won't matter what the domain is, it's simply a link.. much in the way people simply click search results. Do they really know what the site address is?

Hit. Nail. On. Head...
:bingo:

 

[Jawed]

I remember during my first start up (on line booking with virtual tours) I was quite confidently told (by a Uniglobe travel franchise owner) that 'no one will ever book anything on the internet'.
I caution to 'never say never', especially with new internet developments.
I predict that .tel will represent a 'sea change' in information exchange. A simple directory - maybe.
I think if people look beyond TLD and DNS and see what can be done with such a delivery system, they'll possibly be able to imagine some potentials.
I think some domainers may be sensing that values in the dot whatevers may deteriorate when people simply click to connect. Won't matter what the domain is, it's simply a link.. much in the way people simply click search results. Do they really know what the site address is?

With that spirit on the eve of GA, I guess .tel registration will hit the mark of 2 million within a week. Is the history of .mobi repeating itself? :]

 

[phase111]

With that spirit on the eve of GA, I guess .tel registration will hit the mark of 2 million within a week. Is the history of .mobi repeating itself? :]

It's still amazing to me just how many names have gone at $300 - $400 in landrush..quite phenomenal! Quite smart of telnic to do this really, they must be making quite a packet of cash already. :lala: