The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[phase111]

How do they vote ?
Since all .tel 'webpages' will look like http://www.ben.tel/ where are you going to put the voting form ?

www.my-idol.tel shows you how things would work and I still think this would be better than annoying text numbers to remember for each contestant which you then have to manually type in all the time.

 

[Steven]

People will become used to .tel as soon as they realize that they just have to type in companyname.tel/personname.tel on their mobile to get connected. Then many will also try out generics if they looking for something particular. Public awareness of .tel will also largely increase if phone numbers are getting replaced by .tel names in advertising. But user adaption will be a long process. So anyone looking for the big break-through of .tel in the short term will most likely be disappointed.

What is the chance of this happening even in the long term?

 

[mjnels]

I saw that .mobi bubble and people who sold early, like mr mjnels got $$$$$$$.

i still have a good number of mine...but sold tons as well. its always a good idea to sell the whole time and hedge your bets.. trade up for better names, etc.. once you go trying to predict when the "peak" is going to be is when you lose.

even doing as well as i did, it has been a tough ride.. as should be expected with new TLDs. i tend to agree that flipping will be harder when the initial price paid is $300+

 

[phase111]

what you just described is a mobile website, not a contact page.

.tel is a contact page, not a website as such. The way mobile phones are changing will make .tel a more realistic proposition for these shows anyway because you wont need to text anylonger by hand and instead of waiting for american idol.com to load and then having to navigate your way through it to find the voting section... using americanidol.tel will be much easier... this is just common sense here surely.

 

[mjnels]

.tel is a contact page, not a website as such. The way mobile phones are changing will make .tel a more realistic proposition for these shows anyway because you wont need to text anylonger by hand and instead of waiting for american idol.com to load and then having to navigate your way through it to find the voting section... using americanidol.tel will be much easier... this is just common sense here surely.

i know what you meant, and it can work in theory i suppose... but i think most will opt to go with a clean mobile website if they're looking to achieve what you described.

 

[CDM]

It's just a redirect...

It's like buying a .mobi then telling people to type it in to be redirected to the .com. How convenient
I don't understand the logic really.

It would make more sense to advertise my-idol.tv (it is available BTW).

I see a phone number and an sms which if i were on a mobile device i could click to dial. american idol doesnt actually allow online voting anyway, as i've read on their site. However in the example directory, yes they do happen to have also put a link back to the my-idol.com website. I wouldnt call it a redirect though, since i'd be calling right from the .tel

and I dont see why it would make more sense to use a .tv for the voting. you'd have to worry about its cross compatible w/ every mobile device now and in the future, it has to sit on a server (god forbid if it crashes during the height of an episode), you have the possibility for slow page loading, network timeouts, 404.

in this scenario why would you choose something with way more potential for connectivity problems?

 

[plaggypig]

I see a phone number and an sms which if i were on a mobile device i could click to dial. american idol doesnt actually allow online voting anyway, as i've read on their site. However in the example directory, yes they do happen to have also put a link back to the my-idol.com website. I wouldnt call it a redirect though, since i'd be calling right from the .tel

and I dont see why it would make more sense to use a .tv for the voting. you'd have to worry about its cross compatible w/ every mobile device now and in the future, it has to sit on a server (god forbid if it crashes during the height of an episode), you have the possibility for slow page loading, network timeouts, 404.

in this scenario why would you choose something with way more potential for connectivity problems?

Exactly. The other thing is that mobile networks are inherently latent, so it ends up being much more convenient/responsive to just pull a small amount of data from a (cached) DNS record than it is to retrieve a full blown web page, no matter how well optimised for mobile devices it is.

Edit: We need Ted Stevens to explain this.

 

[steveteva]

Can we have a .tel showcase thread? I think it could be interesting, it is now merge but not really convenient.

 

[plaggypig]

TO the guy who registered 20 .tel names, I can see why you are enamored with the names... but put this in perspective, you can buy a IFFY SOLID LLL.com for $6k right now which no doubt will rise again, basically no risk after 3 years and sell for profit. Putting 6 grand into a new extention is risky IMO, but each to his own thing. I saw that .mobi bubble and people who sold early, like mr mjnels got $$$$$$$.

Anyhow, you could be the smart business man and sell at the bubble, but its hard to make a profit when you already throw down $300 a name!!

I'm not particularly interested in domaining as such - I wouldn't "invest" in an LLL.com.. it's just not for me (though I'm sure you're right it would pay off).

I'm interested in .tel for different reasons - but as I've commented previously, whether it will be widely adopted or not all comes down to marketing. It needs a big push off the starting line, but I think it would snowball from there virally. I think everybody is basically in agreement on this. So yes, there is a risk.

I think where we tend to differ is in seeing the technical and cultural scope of .tel.

I'm sure there will probably be a "bubble" of .tel sales - I may try and recoup some costs from this and bootstrap my little directory business, but I'm basically in it for the longer term. I hope other .tel owners are too

 

[WordWalker]

TO the guy who registered 20 .tel names, I can see why you are enamored with the names... but put this in perspective, you can buy a IFFY SOLID LLL.com for $6k right now which no doubt will rise again, basically no risk after 3 years and sell for profit. Putting 6 grand into a new extention is risky IMO, but each to his own thing. I saw that .mobi bubble and people who sold early, like mr mjnels got $$$$$$$.

Anyhow, you could be the smart business man and sell at the bubble, but its hard to make a profit when you already throw down $300 a name!!

If this economy continues to tank, domainers better be sure that their domains have the potential for generating real world results in times of great economic turmoil. Three letter .coms that derive their high values from what other domainers are willing to pay for them today won't be as valuable in the future unless thy are showing positive cash flow that can pay for necessities like a mortgage payment, medical care and food.

The faint of heart need not click here:

http://www.trendsresearch.com

 

[Jawed]

If this economy continues to tank, domainers better be sure that their domains have the potential for generating real world results in times of great economic turmoil. Three letter .coms that derive their high values from what other domainers are willing to pay for them today won't be as valuable in the future unless thy are showing positive cash flow that can pay for necessities like a mortgage payment, medical care and food.

The faint of heart need not click here:

http://www.trendsresearch.com

I can see some positive side of this whole episode. The government in the UK thinks that there is a situation of so-called ‘deflation’ in the economy. In order to break it, businesses and individuals are encouraged to spend. .Tel supporters seem to be helping this neo-keynesian theory. The .tels owners may not benefit from their lifetime savings but certainly registrars will have fresh cash to avoid any sudden bankruptcy. :D

 

[scandiman]

anyone know where to find the telnic registries whois?

 

[steveteva]

I've register a .tel that was available and after payment received an email with status: review pending
Before I also registered .tel domains and was in my account after payment.
What's that pending?

 

[FathomJH]

I believe its:

whois.nic.tel

Dynadot uses that address; however, it does not resolve yet.

 

[mjnels]

anyone know where to find the telnic registries whois?

not available until the feb.25th

 

[WordWalker]

Disruptive Force: Smart Phones

Timely article. Worthy of a read...

http://www.dnjournal.com/lowdown.htm

 

[phase111]

If this economy continues to tank, domainers better be sure that their domains have the potential for generating real world results in times of great economic turmoil. Three letter .coms that derive their high values from what other domainers are willing to pay for them today won't be as valuable in the future unless thy are showing positive cash flow that can pay for necessities like a mortgage payment, medical care and food.

The faint of heart need not click here:

http://www.trendsresearch.com

Wow, I like that guy, seems to be on the mark and saying things I was worried for a long time. Does he give any predictions for dot tel, lol?

 

[onlinelife]

Yes that’s right, .Tel is communication purpose only and not for web-contents. It’s quick viral marketing tool, specific rather than complex!
No need to remember any number, e-mail, any IMs or any other details. Communication is truly within one click. (Try justin.tel)

 

[steveteva]

I've register a .tel that was available and after payment received an email with status: review pending
Before I also registered .tel domains and was in my account after payment.
What's that pending?

Pending problem solve, someone registered almost the same time but I was faster I think according to their email.
So I m lucky I got : c a r w a s h . t e l

 

[kukgle]

ok let's see this example. if one day people are able to type xxx.tel in voip phone. i open one web call xxx american.com for application who want to have his/her name.american.tel cost 2 bucks a ywar. appplication process in 30 days only. if you don't wanna be access thru this name just create yourself thru telnic cost 20 buck a year. hurry up, before others take youname.american.tel.