The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[steveteva]

Some real estate agents for example are already using their .tels as phone numbers.

It's true, it's nice to see that the Real Estate industry is the first professional community to get involve in .tel market, I don't know why just them and not other like plumbers, electricians... I do own a portfolio of "real estate" .tel and will held a auction next month hope to see if they will bid or not, anyway I will quit domaining with or without earnings.

 

[Namez]

Lol!

i think this is the main part he was questioning. You stated that you've had multiple offers in the $5,000.00 to $10,0000.00 range. You are either the david copperfield of .tel or a domaining pinocchio. :talk:

lol!

 

[mwzd]

For those complaining about the .tel page being too simple - please look up minimalism. Less is more, if done right.

I like the .tel pages, with all their simplicity and uniformity. In a world full of opportunities (tlds) you can vent your creative juices on, .tel is more for the structure builder, not the developer.

When it launched, I got one for my family (surname.tel) and one for my company (company.tel) aside from a few generics.

For someone like me who's involved in multiple companies, each of which has multiple profit centers, .tel might just make it easier for people to understand my position a lot better.

While I don't believe .tel will solve all the webs problems like some here, I like it enough to use it for my own self and can see how the ones i do have can be used logically too - sf.usa.lyp.tel anyone? :p

Btw, got three more - dials.tel (since everyone is talking about calling via .tels), ditto.tel (dont ask :D ) and insures.tel (for lead generation ).

 

[Ader]

Simplicity is a big part of the appeal of .tel.
If I need contact information etc quickly, I don't want to have to find my way through a screen full of images and clutter.
And if I land on a site where stuff starts moving about the screen, with pop ups or other distractions, I'm likely to go elsewhere. I'm not that easily impressed by "amazing" design skills.

By the way, word is spreading about the new development in adverts for .tels being introduced by Telnic,
e.g. http://www.dnxpert.com/2009/08/13/telnic-introduces-text-advertising-for-tel-domain-names/

 

[Jawed]

Simplicity is a big part of the appeal of .tel.
If I need contact information etc quickly, I don't want to have to find my way through a screen full of images and clutter.
And if I land on a site where stuff starts moving about the screen, with pop ups or other distractions, I'm likely to go elsewhere. I'm not that easily impressed by "amazing" design skills.

If they are the criteria, then Gopher was simpler. :D

 

[FreakySteve]

If you don't like the .tel WEB proxy page, it's very simple:

Use Glittel.com or write/buy your own proxy for viewing web (or other) versions of your .tel.

and/or

Write an app for your audience that shows the data how you want it shown.

If it sucks, either make it good or find something else.

Why is it so hard for people to grasp that the .tel web proxy is but one of potentially infinite ways of interacting with .tel domains?

---
TelCamp Toronto 1 is tomorrow, I'll be there! :tu:

 

[FrenchTel]

New version of TelHosting

Release v74 of the Community TelHosting software will be deployed to the live environment on Wednesday 19th August 2009 at 06:00 UTC.

This new version comes with interesting features:
- Privacy at all domain levels
- Free text keyword maximum length increased from 255 to 2,000 characters
- ...

Check out full details

 

[Shahid7]

Sounds like great news which i knew french so i could read more about it,
LongLive.tel

Shahid

Release v74 of the Community TelHosting software will be deployed to the live environment on Wednesday 19th August 2009 at 06:00 UTC.

This new version comes with interesting features:
- Privacy at all domain levels
- Free text keyword maximum length increased from 255 to 2,000 characters
- ...

Check out full details

 

[FrenchTel]

An English version describing TelHosting v74 new features is available at the bottom of the post Shahid!

 

[Shahid7]

sorry, apologies. i guess i didn't go through it fully when i saw french in there

just read them now

ENGLISH VERSION

Release v74 of the Community TelHosting software will be deployed to the live environment on Wednesday 19th August 2009 at 06:00 UTC.

This release sees the introduction of privacy at all domain levels (i.e., whereas it was only possible to have private data in example.tel it will now be possible to add to sublevel.example.tel, sub.sublevel.example.tel etc. - full details are available within the updated user guide) as well as the additional improvements listed below:

- Free text keyword maximum length increased from 255 to 2,000 characters

- Optimized CTH processing for large domains such that the text header loads in a timely fashion

- Optimization of the storeRecord SOAP command to avoid slow down with larger domains

- Move to / Copy to dialogs - Additional logic added to initially only show folders from the current domain. This increases performance for large portfolios

- Full front end support for “global” profiles

- Minor multi-lingual inconsistencies corrected

- Support for carriage returns within Keywords

- Disable phone number validation checking added to the SMS contact type

- Removal of front end warning when user’s browser language is not supported

everything sounds good

 

[Acroplex]

As a UI designer and AD I somewhat agree with the critics of 1999ish look of dot tel domains.
It doesn't look very sexy.
It need to look more sexy/fun and cool in order to become hot among mainstream.

However I think this will should easy for Telnic to solve.
Create a couple of different CSS styles, let a user set which style to load, and when the page load from a browser it would use that theme.

Hint: Don't use the same guy who designed the .tel logo.

1999ish? You mean, 1994ish.

It's really a shame that TelNic cares more about brand promotion and data accumulation (all your info is stored at their database) than providing a DNS layer that would allow for web development.

PS Who is Johnny a.k.a. hepamatic? A .tel fanboi, I'm sure.

 

[steveteva]

I've read your blog post: Acro.net - Technology Rants & Raves by Acroplex® » Blog Archive » Still lost in .tel hell in the age of Development and I see that you really hate .tel

I agree with one point: the logo and not able to have different templates for page. But for other like dns to hosting it's not a great idea as all tlds work that way and that's what makes .tel unique is DNS only.

1999ish? You mean, 1994ish.

It's really a shame that TelNic cares more about brand promotion and data accumulation (all your info is stored at their database) than providing a DNS layer that would allow for web development.

PS Who is Johnny a.k.a. hepamatic? A .tel fanboi, I'm sure.

 

[Acroplex]

No, I don't hate .tel.

I hate stupid people that are obsessed with something (fanbois) and cannot see reality outside their little distorted glass. In more than 5 (6?) blog posts of mine dedicated to this castrated TLD, I have analyzed its pitfalls and have offered suggestions. Heck, I even own .tel domains.

Now, if you want to promote domains that are virtual contact cards please don't use the term "development" alongside ".tel" - it's an insult to us web developers.

 

[hasseily]

It's really a shame that TelNic cares more about brand promotion and data accumulation (all your info is stored at their database) than providing a DNS layer that would allow for web development.

This is flat out wrong. Registrars are free to use their own backend databases and telhosting, and very soon anyone will be able to become their own telhosting provider through a free accreditation process. We (Telnic) don't care about your info. We're not in any way, shape or form in the business of centralizing your contact info and monetizing it. Our business is to make sure that any .tel owner can use any telhosting provider and/or registrar and be guaranteed of the availability of the standard APIs.

Now, if you want to promote domains that are virtual contact cards please don't use the term "development" alongside ".tel" - it's an insult to us web developers.

I suggest you amend your comment to state: don't use the terms "web development" alongside ".tel".
That will be correct.

 

[saucey]

No, I don't hate .tel.

Heck, I even own .tel domains.

LOL! Give it a rest Acro! The only Tel you own is telsucks.tel

Don't try to make it sound like you are a supporter or open to the extension in any way.. You aren't, and that is fine.. but don't throw up the smoke and mirrors .... no honest... "I don't hate .tel... heck, I even own .tel domains." Ha ha ha.. Whatever. You have bashed this extension since launch and have done everything in your power to try to "put people off" of the idea of .Tel.

 

[Kate]

.tel development ?
Nice oxymoron for data entry job :gl:

 

[plaggypig]

Damn, you should write to property developers around the world and demand they start referring to themselves "brick arrangement specialists" instead; the only C they use is Cement.

 

[Acroplex]

LOL! Give it a rest Acro! The only Tel you own is telsucks.tel

Don't try to make it sound like you are a supporter or open to the extension in any way.. You aren't, and that is fine.. but don't throw up the smoke and mirrors .... no honest... "I don't hate .tel... heck, I even own .tel domains." Ha ha ha.. Whatever. You have bashed this extension since launch and have done everything in your power to try to "put people off" of the idea of .Tel.

I don't own telsucks.tel saucey. I own telsucks.com
And that's why "tel sucks" in Google brings it at the top - because it's a .com

I have about 10 .tel domains which were proactive registrations due to trademarks owned.

Now, twist it as much as you like, throw a fit and stomp your feet: .tel is not a TLD that can be developed. Until TelNic changes that - a raw awakening would come too late - don't parade your .tel text listings as "development".

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I suggest you amend your comment to state: don't use the terms "web development" alongside ".tel". That will be correct.

I understand that you believe in the "code poetry" motto; that's fine. But don't come pushing .tel as the next killer app, it's not. Think about it: your crowd can't even be the MySpace people; they are used to glitzy graphics and gaudy banners & music. .tel is minimalistic and unsuitable for any development.

But since you're in this thread as a TelNic rep, please explain why you don't enable switching of the DNS via a function so that people can use regular hosting?

 

[plaggypig]

And that's why "tel sucks" in Google brings it at the top - because it's a .com

I'm not sure the TLD string itself is really a factor in Google rankings? The reason telsucks.com is #1 is because it has backlinks from your blog, and it's an uncompetitive phrase. If you want to try an experiment then I'll do something with sucks.tel and you can link to it from your blog.

I have about 10 .tel domains which were proactive registrations due to trademarks owned.

Did you buy 10 names in every other TLD as well, or just this sucky extension? And how many others did you TRY (and fail) to buy during landrush/ga? Tell the pig what's upsetting you.

Now, twist it as much as you like, throw a fit and stomp your feet: .tel is not a TLD that can be developed. Until TelNic changes that - a raw awakening would come too late - don't parade your .tel text listings as "development".

The web and .tel are entirely different contexts. "Developing .tel directories" is just shorthand for developing taxonomies, developing business links, etc. Your whinging about word semantics is vexatious. Got any real beef?

But since you're in this thread as a TelNic rep, please explain why you don't enable switching of the DNS via a function so that people can use regular hosting?

Because websites are not the remit of .tel. It would be a distraction.

Focus on communication. Multiplicity and mobility. Simples.

 

[Acroplex]

I'm not sure the TLD string itself is really a factor in Google rankings? The reason telsucks.com is #1 is because it has backlinks from your blog, and it's an uncompetitive phrase. If you want to try an experiment then I'll do something with sucks.tel and you can link to it from your blog.



Did you buy 10 names in every other TLD as well, or just this sucky extension? And how many others did you TRY (and fail) to buy during landrush/ga? Tell the pig what's upsetting you.



The web and .tel are entirely different contexts. "Developing .tel directories" is just shorthand for developing taxonomies, developing business links, etc. Your whinging about word semantics is vexatious. Got any real beef?



Because websites are not the remit of .tel. It would be a distraction.

Focus on communication. Multiplicity and mobility. Simples.

You're wrong. It's #1 because it's actually laden with keywords in the meta tags, something that no .tel domain has.

Fact. View source of any .tel domain. No meta tags, no description, keywords. Nada.

My experiment proves it - refer to my blog about my CPA's last name as a .tel - at #35 in Google while his oddbal .net is #1.

I see a lot of coder lingo, nothing of substance in your post.

I wonder how many clueless people got .tel domains at landrush, only to find out they cannot park them, they cannot develop them, they cannot host them.

Any addition since launch to the .tel features is a "hack".

Want to be considered a real TLD Registry, TelNic? Offer a feature to turn off your purple button and allow owners of .tel to switch their DNS. Until then, "development" and ".tel" don't go together.

It's also interesting that TelNic chooses the word "service" instead of "domain" when referring to their own .tel