The .PRO Discussion

[InvisionTech]

It seems .PRO is slowly coming out of the cage with cheaper reg prices than they were a year ago and major registrars like netsol taking notice of the extension and promoting it.

Here are some that I picked up in last couple of days:

Alexandria.pro

Anchorage.pro

Arlington.pro

Belfast.pro

Birmingham.pro

Budapest.pro

Durham.pro

Fairfax.pro

Italian.pro

Lisbon.pro

Fire away with your regs after the relaunch on September 8th, 2008.

 

[Kate]

The average person also doesn't buy domains in the aftermarket.

Correct. But I'm not even talking about the secondary market and the opportunities for domainers here. I'm talking about the primary market ie. available domain names. People are not going to register available .pro domain, if they don't know it even exists because their registrar does not offer it. Exposure is the bare minimum for a product to have a chance to sell.
The primary market has to take off before the secondary market takes shape.

Aside from the top 300 or so action verbs, which were 'snapped' up by big investors during the premium auctions, which .me domains are really providing huge ROI?

Not many for sure. But the difference is that .me is more 'mainstream', heavily marketed and available at mainstream registrars including Godaddy. Now it's another TLD like .tv or .cc. That's why it has 630,000 regs already. So I think promotion has been effective regardless of the actual merits of the TLD. In my eyes, the product isn't superior to .pro and it's a different target group but it's not hard to see which of the two is faring better. .me just recorded another low 6 figure sale, there are no .pro sales in that range. I think the record is go.pro 40K. I own zero .me or .pro BTW.

 

[-EM-]

I was ignoring you, but you still keep replying to my posts even if I was posting to other users. Do you really need my attention?

Can't understand you erandi,

I'm sorry, but I am not asking your understanding.

BTW, how did it go with that torrent.ws* name you were selling or those double hyphenated dot coms?** BTW, I remember Torrent.pro being snapped for mid xxx (not sure if that's accurate).

*) That is not my domain.
**) I have posted only one L-L-L.com domain at the appraising forum.
Anyway, glad to know someone reads and remembers my posts.

But thanks for making this thread one of the BIGGEST on NP. Are you having fun?

Replying to my posts (even if I was not posting to you) and spamming this thread, makes you that person.
Of course I am having fun, shouldn't I?

 

[Edward Smeu]

Mate, of course I read your posts, how can I make my "read" on you else?

Regarding Torrent.ws, that's a good name even though the extension is what it is. It should be profitable so I'm sorry that wasn't yours.

I'll stop spamming now then, I'll let mwzd do that BTW, makes me that person? What person? Never mind.

I miss MG, he was fun.

 

[Jawed]

Aside from the top 300 or so action verbs, ......., which .me domains are really providing huge ROI?

I don't think it's a question. It seems an assertion, if so, then it's not true.

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Anyway, this is not .me thread and I don't have any plan to hijack this thread for .me. Let's talk about .me where it suits.

 

[JoeBiz]

These are comparisons that don't make sense. Gold is a commodity with a market that is backed by global demand.
Can't say the same about domain names, especially in emerging extensions.
For the more established extensions there is a market for 1% of the supply perhaps, and the liquidity is low anyway.
Gold is always worth something, but prices can fluctuate. OTH there isn't a buyer for every .pro domain. In fact, even .com cannot be compared to gold.
Today's reality vs dreams.

And if .pro doesn't becomes successful shall we hear from you again ?

You were so anxious to shoot something down that you missed BOTH points.

Answer the primary question ... Why are you here?


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That is not true. Since you choose a specific TLD (not just taking random TLDs), makes you expecting a market for that TLD. The left side of the dot is just the specific value of the TLD. I think you are confusing these things.

Good grief. If I wanted the keyword PURE do you think that I would seek out Pro or MX or WS. Of course not. But considering that PURE is not available virtually in any other extension, I chose Pro. And it should be obvious to you that the market will come from PURE, with PRO being secondary.


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[mwzd]

Aham, good point, once the future was internet, now it is .pro?

Honestly? I don't know. But I'm pretty damn sure that the .pro domains I've bought, at the price I've bought them, are an absolute no-brainer.

That is not true. Since you choose a specific TLD (not just taking random TLDs), makes you expecting a market for that TLD.

Ummmm, if you insist. I've also bought and sold .ag domains.

The left side of the dot is just the specific value of the TLD. I think you are confusing these things.

I obviously have a lot to learn.

I am already focused elsewhere, domaining is just for fun

That is pretty lucky for you.

People are not going to register available .pro domain, if they don't know it even exists because their registrar does not offer it.

More and more registrars ARE offering it, more are expected to because the registry has moved to Afilias.

The primary market has to take off before the secondary market takes shape.

You mean like for .me? Or .io for that matter?

.me just recorded another low 6 figure sale, there are no .pro sales in that range. I think the record is go.pro 40K. I own zero .me or .pro BTW.

I agree, none yet, and probably never. You're missing the point, as a gtld, the keywords most of the people own make excellent development material, if nothing else, at price points that allow ROI to be exceptional.

Actually the fact that you own neither makes some people here wonder why you're interested.

I don't think it's a question. It seems an assertion, if so, then it's not true.

Aside from meet.me and buy.me, which even you might agree are outliers, I see around 30 five figure sales and around 30 more mid-high four figure sales for .me is all.

I think I know now what a dog feels like when it runs after it's own tail, time to get productive, cheerio!

 

[JoeBiz]

In my eyes, the product isn't superior to .pro and it's a different target group but it's not hard to see which of the two is faring better. .me just recorded another low 6 figure sale, there are no .pro sales in that range. I think the record is go.pro 40K. I own zero .me or .pro BTW.

Actually the fact that you own neither makes some people here wonder why you're interested.

I mentioned it earlier and sdsinc just made it crystal clear. The DSM-III-R defines it as Sadistic Personality Disorder (The American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders).

It's no big deal. We all have our little "disorders," I just managed to find the official name for yours. You're lucky. Millions of people live their entire lives not having a clue what's wrong with them. But now when someone asks "What's wrong with you?" ... you'll have the answer.

You're welcome.


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[JoeBiz]

ANA Warns Commerce Department About “Top-Level Domain Tsunami”

This could be interesting. Any thoughts?

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[mwzd]

ResellerClub sells 11,000 .pro domains in a month!

Directi says it sold 11,000 .pro domains via its ResellerClub channel in the first month after it started supporting the TLD.

That’s pretty impressive going...

http://domainincite.com/10661-resellerclub-sells-11000-pro-domains-in-a-month

And coming back to this figure, which is the only relevant one for .PRO imho -

Total .pros registered, excluding Hostway zip .pros, rose by 5.3% in May 2012 to 111,171.

That's a 10% increase in just one month.

It could be because RC is still discounting .PROs but a couple of more registrars and you could see this extension get even more awareness.

 

[webdomain]

I think they are doing some heavy discounts and promotions..but that's good news to help increase usage and awareness!

 

[-Adam-]

Can some of you .pro people tell me a good place to register a pro domain that allows you to skip the credentials check?

I must say my knowledge in this extension is quite limited.

 

[webdomain]

Adam,

It's self certification, nothing is required at Encirca, Domainpeople, hexonet ect...I'd personally recommending at least a business license to back it up if audited.

Like to see you on board with .pro....recent news suggests .pro is growing faster with resellerclubs lastest add of 11K new registrants this past month added!!

 

[-Adam-]

Thanks for the info webdomain!

 

[MasterGuru]

Dear colleagues,

Where is now the cheapest price for transfer .PRO from encirca?

Thx!

 

[sky]

Dear colleagues,

Where is now the cheapest price for transfer .PRO from encirca?

Thx!

I hear that. I xferred mine to Name.com for $15 and it took the full week to move over. It's the same price. The getting was good at Encirca the other month with their $3.49 .pro reg special. Renewing them will be expensive.

But I've had it with Encirca for not fixing up their broken interface after many years. You can only see 10 domains at once and can't increase the default, so it's tedious.

They don't use session cookies properly so you have to login over and over when you re-visit your domains page.

When you change DNS outside of EnCirca and then back you have to file support tickets or do a support chat to get it straightened out which is a total waste of everyone's time and frustrating.

Stuff like that. EnCirca really needs to fix that nonsense. Get's old fast. Other registrars can do it right, so can EnCirca. Because of that, any .PROs I plan to keep I will move to a new registrar at renewal time.

 

[webdomain]

fyi..I moved a bulk of mine to domainpeople and hexonet at a time when transfers were cheaper than they are now. Hexonet was the easiest transfer, but don't know what their costs are right now.

Once you do a few transfers you'll get the hang of it, but there is a process.

 

[cdboard]

You can only see 10 domains at once .....

I can see more than ten domains at once. select "domains per page" and "continue".

When you change DNS outside of EnCirca and then back.....

I considered using encirca dns, but it was never clear to me how to do it.

so I use either free dns or webhost dns for my .pro domains. changing those nameservers is easy.

 

[sky]

I can see more than ten domains at once. select "domains per page" and "continue".

Yes but the problem you can't set it as your account's default or preference.

It's tedious enough to have to log in each time you visit your domain page as it is, due to their inability to implement a session context would leave one you logged in for a pre-determined period of time. But each time you do, you get the default pathetically abbreviated 10 domains a page, which is absurd short number of domains given the native resolution of even cheap low-end monitors these days, which takes time to load, then you have to go to the pulldown, select a larger number of domains, and then wait for that transaction to complete which takes another 20 seconds or so, and that's each time you visit or revisit or do anything.

To me, based on my experience with most other registrars or professional sites, and even as my experience as an engineer it is an inexcusable degree of negligence on EnCirca's part, particularly since they've had many years to improve things. It's like they just don't care, and I've mentioned this to them before, so they know.

If if they don't care about the user experience, I don't care about EnCirca. If they want business, if they want to stay competitive and have loyal customers, they need to get with the program. They are not even getting the basics complete and solid.

 

[webdomain]

http://www.thedomains.com/2012/10/0...-the-professional-web-cctld-at-icann-toronto/

At first I was like "What is this?!", but honestly if another company is really wanting into the professional web space this bad to spend over 1/2 million to develop .pw....that's got to be a huge plus for .pro!

It's no .co that's for sure.

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http://www.circleid.com/members/6851

They even took the whole tie thing. Don't you love how companies latch on and steal other companies ideas?

They could easily build this domain on 'no restrictions' no 'b.s.' I'm guessing.

 

[Kate]

There are fewer than 50 domains registered in .pw so that's starting from scratch.
IMO this ploy is even less credible than .ws (stands for website).

Oh wait it used to be the extension for the 'personal web' too
http://www.thewhir.com/web-hosting-news/pw-registry-opens-comment-period

Basically Encirca didn't know what to do with this thing, then they dumped it onto Directi.
http://icannwiki.com/index.php/.pw_The_Professional_Web