The official .mobi, .asia, .IDN sucks thread

[soggyindo]

The official .mobi/ .asia/ .me/ .TV sucks thread

It seems every good thread these days gets filled with .mobi/ .asia/ .IDN/ .TV/ .us, debates. So here's a thread we can have at it! We can also refer people here if things get heated.



I'll start with a neutral statement:

WTF is the point of .mobi?

 

[Jeff]

Please address the concerns professionally!

Except maybe you.

^ Correct, I was ... and perhaps still am ... ahead of the curve in the discussions of the "dot Mobey" (which was approved, by the way, in 2005, and - if you search the historical threads - also discussed here at that time, as well)! :gl:

The aforementioned request for a real discussion of the reasons and questions and concerns are again instead countered with the following immaturity, as has been the case and as had been predicted:

'your' unprofessional negative beratings and unsubstantiated remarks and innuendos, 'are tolerated and encouraged' here.

OMG, Jeff's carrying on about the .mobi button? :lol: Ignore was my best decision in a long time.

I'll be on vacation for the long 4th weekend, but if ANYONE - any one at all - with a leaning toward the "dot Mobey" would like to professionally discuss and address the aforementioned chronological reasons and questions and concerns, please post here in an open & friendly, professional manner ... and I hope we can finally have that insightful discussion here for the membership and #1 Community, IMHO. :talk:
Thank you.
-Jeff

 

[GF]

So..., I guess your analogy to being 'born' is the day of 'conception', not the day you came into the world. The rest of the world counts the actual first day of life. The first .mobi names were not assigned or pre-regged until May of '06, or 'their first days of availablity.'

(I don't need to bold it, most people know this.)

:wave: Let me know when something productive is contributed here.

 

[scandiman]

Anything.com & anything.mobi

Come on scandi, don't play a fool. You know that

Sam, please don't call me a fool, I'm trying to better understand the nuances of google analytics. Are you saying by entering .com as a parameter it will also count any search for abc.com?

 

[Jeff]

:wave: Let me know when something productive is contributed here.

:bingo:

I would appreciate even ONE post/poster of substance ... who can clearly and intelligently address the myriad of "dot Mobey" questions and concerns without personally attacking the questionner and posting drivel subterfuge ad nauseum, IMHO. :blink:
-Jeff

 

[qO_Op]

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[Sam]

Sam, please don't call me a fool, I'm trying to better understand the nuances of google analytics. Are you saying by entering .com as a parameter it will also count any search for abc.com?

Yes, I've been trying to say that for a while... didn't really think you don't know what * means.

 

[GF]

I'd say you guys are splitting hairs on this one, it could be interpreted either way. 'Conception' could be viewed as far back as I think 2000 when some good people at Nokia first started the whole mobile tld concept.

Agreed.

 

[Sam]

Let's take your example of ESPN.mobi - http://espn.go.com/mobileespn/products?productId=3059185

"by entering this link into your BlackBerry® browser:
http://espn.mobi/bblauncher"

or http://www.rainierpac.com/content.asp?chapterID=46&subchapterID=52&pageID=159&SubpageID=427

"Q. What is the address to access the Mobile Locator with my mobile device?
A. http://www.rainierpacificbank.mobi"

Plus all the other "enter this .mobi address into your cell phone's web browser" (e.g. BofA.mobi).

Time is money! Especially when people are browsing the mobile web. There is no time to second guess like on the PC.

The vast majority of people will be using the mobile web for the first time.

Sure, they may have a play around with Google (if they are rich and have a lot of time on their hands) but more likely users will be navigating directly (type-in) to e.g. ESPN.mobi, CampRock.mobi, Nokia.mobi, whatever ad they see.

Things that will be searched for are "mobile Internet" http://www.google.com/trends?q=mobile+internet which as you can see appears to becomming a rather popular subject.

When users are more familiar with the mobile web and the prices for browsing are cheaper then I'm sure there will be a lot more use of the search engines.

I highly HIGHLY doubt any one will have the patience to type such a long and precise URL :yell: . They will search like most lazy surfers, if its a type in, it must be a .com, so really .com is "hurt" in this *.com vs *.mobi google trends.

 

[qO_Op]

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[hawkeye]

....I'll be on vacation for the long 4th weekend, ...

Well enjoy yourself. We'll probably just have normal rational conversations while you're gone, but we'll try to enjoy them. Don't forget to leave off the suntan lotion, and fall into a nice long deep sleep as you lie in the sun. Hope the UV levels are high there this weekend.

Enjoy, and 'may you always be looking upward, as birds fly above!'

^v^
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[Work In Progress]

This is great you are developing your .mobi, but as said before, non .mobi domainers, not a single one in the top SERPs.

Btw, how in the world are you in the top for those names... what is the SEARCH TRAFFIC from these, or are these just low searched terms.

Low searched terms? Do you really believe that?

Just switch to an EXOTIC cctld and plaster it with ads = $$$, instead of wasted opportunity with crappy "admob" ads :yell: :yell:

How would that help the rest of my mobi portfolio? The admob ads are "something is better than nothing" at this point. Again...another point towards the "it's different" than typical domains. Monetizing a mobile site is quite different that monetizing a full site. Just another reason typical domainers can't "see" mobi making it. The "If you can't park it...it's a failure" mentality is for the weak. You have to think out of the box. There are other ways to make money than admob ads, but you have to take the time to be creative. My ways are still under wraps. Just quietly building traffic now and watching it grow every month.
:tu:

 

[scandiman]

Yes, I've been trying to say that for a while... didn't really think you don't know what * means.

If that is the case I think the the analytics will forever be skewed as there are so many people in the habit of using a search bar as a URL bar. I see so many people doing that, I ask why they don't use the address bar and they sort of shrug and say this works. I will be surprised if this same user dynamic carries over to mobile web, time will tell. Ultimately though I have even less confidence now in those analytics. Thanks for better explaining them.

 

[Sam]

Low searched terms? Do you really believe that?

How would that help the rest of my mobi portfolio? The admob ads are "something is better than nothing" at this point. Again...another point towards the "it's different" than typical domains. Monetizing a mobile site is quite different that monetizing a full site. Just another reason typical domainers can't "see" mobi making it. The "If you can't park it...it's a failure" mentality is for the weak. You have to think out of the box. There are other ways to make money than admob ads, but you have to take the time to be creative. My ways are still under wraps. Just quietly building traffic now and watching it grow every month.
:tu:

It was a compliment my friend. . I envy anyone who can get into the top 10 for yahoo. I was saying as a top 10 in yahoo, makes much more sense to monetize it now and get great $$$.

I believe it has to be a low search term or your SEO is god cause I don't even see backlinks to your site (looks like a stand alone).

 

[Kate]

How do you measure this widening gap?

The registration stats. Do the math.
FYI 10K+ mobi domains were dropped over the past month - the Junk Dump® has begun.

30 May

TLD	New	Removed	Transferred	Net Gain/Loss	Grace Period Domains	Total Domains
BIZ 	2,011	1,567	2,018	444	13,078	1,978,829
COM 	353,886	429,550	123,998	-75,664	1,872,288	77,142,148
INFO 	13,987	11,347	32,130	2,640	85,234	5,007,607
MOBI 	713	467	753	246	6,823	924,989
NET 	68,146	42,172	15,059	25,974	270,231	11,706,310
ORG 	7,218	4,550	9,368	2,668	47,612	6,903,389
US 	1,640	1,877	1,269	-237	8,661	1,383,244
Totals 	447,601	491,530	184,595	-43,929	2,303,927	105,046,516


										
30 June
						
TLD	New	Removed	Transferred	Net Gain/Loss	Grace Period Domains	Total Domains
BIZ 	4,084	2,108	1,980	1,976	16,432	1,976,962
COM 	489,529	465,888	138,096	23,641	2,055,347	76,448,199
INFO 	10,600	19,675	22,995	-9,075	57,862	4,997,283
MOBI 	997	495	1,676	502	5,812	911,523
NET 	72,305	37,488	22,625	34,817	219,013	11,508,131
ORG 	7,709	4,523	6,796	3,186	46,711	6,824,746
US 	1,236	1,026	1,354	210	7,264	1,377,912
Totals 	586,460	531,203	195,522	55,257	2,408,441	104,044,756

Source: http://www.registrarstats.com/Public/ZoneFileSurvey.aspx

 

[GF]

The registration stats. Do the math.
FYI 10K+ mobi domains were dropped over the past month - the Junk Dump® has begun.

Source: http://www.registrarstats.com/Public/ZoneFileSurvey.aspx

Thanks for posting the numbers!

I know of a medicine that could have helped Mr. Mobey when he was still alive. I've attached a photo.

 

[Idees]

:lol: Hilarious.....

I know of a medicine that could have helped Mr. Mobey when he was still alive. I've attached a photo.

 

[Keith]

The registration stats. Do the math.
FYI 10K+ mobi domains were dropped over the past month - the Junk Dump® has begun.

30 May

TLD	New	Removed	Transferred	Net Gain/Loss	Grace Period Domains	Total Domains
BIZ 	2,011	1,567	2,018	444	13,078	1,978,829
COM 	353,886	429,550	123,998	-75,664	1,872,288	77,142,148
INFO 	13,987	11,347	32,130	2,640	85,234	5,007,607
MOBI 	713	467	753	246	6,823	924,989
NET 	68,146	42,172	15,059	25,974	270,231	11,706,310
ORG 	7,218	4,550	9,368	2,668	47,612	6,903,389
US 	1,640	1,877	1,269	-237	8,661	1,383,244
Totals 	447,601	491,530	184,595	-43,929	2,303,927	105,046,516


										
30 June
						
TLD	New	Removed	Transferred	Net Gain/Loss	Grace Period Domains	Total Domains
BIZ 	4,084	2,108	1,980	1,976	16,432	1,976,962
COM 	489,529	465,888	138,096	23,641	2,055,347	76,448,199
INFO 	10,600	19,675	22,995	-9,075	57,862	4,997,283
MOBI 	997	495	1,676	502	5,812	911,523
NET 	72,305	37,488	22,625	34,817	219,013	11,508,131
ORG 	7,709	4,523	6,796	3,186	46,711	6,824,746
US 	1,236	1,026	1,354	210	7,264	1,377,912
Totals 	586,460	531,203	195,522	55,257	2,408,441	104,044,756

Source: http://www.registrarstats.com/Public/ZoneFileSurvey.aspx

So is .org a failure because 70k names have dropped in the last month?? Of course people regged some junk in the frenzy of the landrush and beyond. Does'nt junk get registered in every ext?

 

[Sam]

So is .org a failure because 70k names have dropped in the last month?? Of course people regged some junk in the frenzy of the landrush and beyond. Does'nt junk get registered in every ext?

Its about percentages, not numbers. Use common sense :zzz: im pretty sure these include drop and catch, or no?

 

[namewaiter]

The registration stats. Do the math.
FYI 10K+ mobi domains were dropped over the past month - the Junk Dump® has begun.

30 May

TLD	New	Removed	Transferred	Net Gain/Loss	Grace Period Domains	Total Domains
BIZ 	2,011	1,567	2,018	444	13,078	1,978,829
COM 	353,886	429,550	123,998	-75,664	1,872,288	77,142,148
INFO 	13,987	11,347	32,130	2,640	85,234	5,007,607
MOBI 	713	467	753	246	6,823	924,989
NET 	68,146	42,172	15,059	25,974	270,231	11,706,310
ORG 	7,218	4,550	9,368	2,668	47,612	6,903,389
US 	1,640	1,877	1,269	-237	8,661	1,383,244
Totals 	447,601	491,530	184,595	-43,929	2,303,927	105,046,516


										
30 June
						
TLD	New	Removed	Transferred	Net Gain/Loss	Grace Period Domains	Total Domains
BIZ 	4,084	2,108	1,980	1,976	16,432	1,976,962
COM 	489,529	465,888	138,096	23,641	2,055,347	76,448,199
INFO 	10,600	19,675	22,995	-9,075	57,862	4,997,283
MOBI 	997	495	1,676	502	5,812	911,523
NET 	72,305	37,488	22,625	34,817	219,013	11,508,131
ORG 	7,709	4,523	6,796	3,186	46,711	6,824,746
US 	1,236	1,026	1,354	210	7,264	1,377,912
Totals 	586,460	531,203	195,522	55,257	2,408,441	104,044,756

Source: http://www.registrarstats.com/Public/ZoneFileSurvey.aspx

Ok so since you got your dates switched around ... does that mean a 10K increase in registrations is a good thing????

 

[Keith]

Its about percentages, not numbers. Use common sense :zzz: im pretty sure these include drop and catch, or no?

Common sense tells me that .org has been around much longer than
mobi. Yet, it only has 6 million regs compared to mobis almost 1 million. At 70,000 drops a year it is not looking good for .org