The official .mobi, .asia, .IDN sucks thread

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The official .mobi/ .asia/ .me/ .TV sucks thread

It seems every good thread these days gets filled with .mobi/ .asia/ .IDN/ .TV/ .us, debates. So here's a thread we can have at it! We can also refer people here if things get heated.



I'll start with a neutral statement:

WTF is the point of .mobi?

 

[Keith]

Yes, please see my #1 Signature for four rather large examples (even supposed one-time "dot Mobey" backer Google uses m.google.com and not Google "dot Mobey)!



Slowdown is an understatement ... "dot Mobey" reg's are dropping en masse already, with the first massive wave of .MOBI DROPS coming in September '08, IMHO. :o

LOL, you're telling me that the world now knows m. as the premier way to access the mobile web because of one site?? Come on now :]

Slow down in mobi regs...sure. I was actually referring to the domaining biz as a whole. Seems to me that more and more people are getting in the game. This means less good .coms to go around and soaring prices for anything worthwhile. Good thing mobi is cheap now. Sites can be made that will reach millions for a fraction of the cost Oh and I only need to market 1 address...not 2 :hehe:

 

[namewaiter]

Slowdown is an understatement ... "dot Mobey" reg's are dropping en masse already

well ACTUAL STATISTICS show just the opposite...

http://www.registrarstats.com/Public/ZoneFileSurvey.aspx

so quit posting your opinion as fact and do some research.

 

[hawkeye]

Yes, please see my #1 Signature for four rather large examples (even supposed one-time "dot Mobey" backer Google uses m.google.com and not Google "dot Mobey)

Now this is a lie, as they do own and use Google.mobi, which is live, useable and used.

Do you ever tell the whole truth in your blabbering, or just half truths to justify 'your side' of things?? _\|/_

... "dot Mobey" reg's are dropping en masse already, with the first massive wave of .MOBI DROPS coming in September '08,

:

Yeah, kinda like those homes that are falling left and right currently, that were sold by those who knew or had an inclination the market couldn't sustain itself, but were too concerned with 'their own greed', and just kept selling those homes knowing what was going to happen to the buyers very shortly. Just a different area for greed mongering.

 

[GF]

The majority of brands take time to come into mainstream awareness. The fact that .mobi is not known by the masses yet means absolutely nothing.

New York Times article from yesterday:
"Address extensions that Icann added more recently, like .biz in 2001 and .mobi in 2005, have been largely ignored and in some cases have been adopted mostly by spammers and other malefactors."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/27/t...bl&ex=1214712000&en=4026f0e3cf93a6ef&ei=5087

R.I.P. 8-X

 

[Keith]

Slowdown is an understatement ... "dot Mobey" reg's are dropping en masse already, with the first massive wave of .MOBI DROPS coming in September '08, IMHO. :o
Tick. Tock.

Jeff you realize that September will not lead to massive drops. According to your date, there would be a massive drop of landrush names. Not going to happen. The fact is that many of the initial one year regs have already come up for renewal. Have you seen any massive decline in total mobi regs yet? Nope and in fact the number of total regs continues to climb I have been renewing one year regs for a few months now. Obviously others are doing the same!

 

[namewaiter]

"Address extensions that Icann added more recently, like .biz in 2001 and .mobi in 2005, have been largely ignored and in some cases have been adopted mostly by spammers and other malefactors."

spammers and malefactors??

do we really need to list the organizations using .mobi again?

 

[GF]

UK's The Guardian from yesterday: "Not only could the new system deal a blow to the reputation of recent new domains such as .mobi and .eu, which will now have to compete with hundreds of others,"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jun/27/internet.digitalmedia

When .mobi is in the same sentence as .eu you know it's a problem.

 

[Keith]

New York Times article from yesterday:
"Address extensions that Icann added more recently, like .biz in 2001 and .mobi in 2005, have been largely ignored and in some cases have been adopted mostly by spammers and other malefactors."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/27/t...bl&ex=1214712000&en=4026f0e3cf93a6ef&ei=5087

R.I.P. 8-X

How can something that the masses don't know about be ignored?? Dot biz makes sense though as it has had time to be rejected.

 

[Jeff]

Now this is a lie, as they do own and use Google.mobi, which is live, useable and used.

^ Incorrect; as they have not built a stand-alone "dot Mobey" or have they adopted or advertised a stand-alone Google "dot Mobey" site (and this was supposed to be a "backer" of the fading "dot Mobey")! :red:
Link: http://www.google.com/mobile/

I stated that "the first" wave of .MOBI drops will occur in September '08, as there will be continued fallout after that time as well - because, as I've been stating consistently, there is NO ADOPTION and ZERO AWARENESS of any real substance! :imho:
Fluff and hype continue in the threads, of course ...

-Jeff

 

[GF]

More great PR for .mobi: "Some argue that recent changes to domain names, such as the introduction of the .biz and .mobi suffixes, have had little impact, and people still prefer to use a .com suffix, or one for their country." (Telegraph from UK, yesterday: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/digitallife/main.jhtml?xml=/connected/2008/06/26/dlinternet226.xml)

If "dot mobey" is supposed to be the new revolution for the mobile web, shouldn't the public be educated on it? These are major publications basically rendering the "dot mobey" extension as irrelevant.

BBC News from Thursday: "New domains such as .biz or .mobi have made little impact and the vast majority of website owners still choose .com or a country code."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7475279.stm

 

[Keith]

Incorrect; as they have not built a stand-alone "dot Mobey" or have they adopted or advertised a stand-alone Google "dot Mobey" site (and this was supposed to be a "backer" of the fading "dot Mobey")! :red:
Link: http://www.google.com/mobile/

-Jeff

Where is their m.?? Good lord the public will surely be confused when they want to access mobile content. I opt to type google.mobi over google.com/mobile all day. Funny thing you say the extra letter in mobi makes it too long. LOL, look at the difference in the 2 google addresses!

 

[hawkeye]

Yes, please see my #1 Signature for four rather large examples (even supposed one-time "dot Mobey" backer Google uses m.google.com and not Google "dot Mobey)!

Incorrect; as they have not built a stand-alone "dot Mobey" or have they adopted or advertised a stand-alone Google "dot Mobey" site (and this was supposed to be a "backer" of the fading "dot Mobey")! :red:
Link: http://www.[COLOR=Red]google.com/mobile[/COLOR]/

-Jeff

You better slow down, and 'try' to think rationally, instead of your off-the-cuff disdaining know-it-all blabbering. :zzz:

Now, again, tell us 'which' mobile address Google only uses???? In your - 'IMHO' expert opinion of course! _\|/_

 

[Keith]

You better slow down, and 'try' to think rationally, instead of your off-the-cuff disdaining know-it-all blabbering. :zzz:

Now, again, tell us 'which' mobile address Google only uses???? In your - 'IMHO' expert opinion of course! _\|/_

^ Hammer. Head. Nail.
rep+

Ok, lets stop the arguing. We all know that the highly
brandable google.tell will take the cake :lol:

 

[GF]

Google the term: google mobile

Where is "dot Mobey" ?

 

[Jeff]

The FACTS remain, and it's the same as Kathy's Disney™ point above ... Google™ does NOT have a stand-alone "dot Mobey" site (even their m.google.com doesn't redirect to a lowly "dot Mobey")!

FACT: Google was supposed to have been a key "backer" of mTLD and the "dot mobey"! :o :red:

Tick. Tock.

PS.
]In light of all the NEW (including the highly brandable .TEL!) potential AND EXTREMELY DILUTING mobile related .TLD's ... shouldn't you fellas actually be developing your "dot Mobeys" at this time?!?

-Jeff

 

[Keith]

Google the term: google mobile

Where is "dot Mobey" ?

Google the term: google.mobi and find out why they use mobi

http://www.pdasnews.com/articles/1250/1/Google.mobi-goes-live

Old news because google is "way ahead of the curve"

 

[GF]

Google the term: google.mobi and find out why they use mobi

http://www.pdasnews.com/articles/1250/1/Google.mobi-goes-live

Old news because google is "way ahead of the curve"

Sooooo, google.mobi is "live" as of the article you're showing, dated March 1, 2006 - yet whenever someone looks up mobile Google there's nothing on Google.mobi?

 

[hawkeye]

The FACTS remain, and it's the same as Kathy's Disney™ point above ... Google™ does NOT have a stand-alone "dot Mobey" site (even their m.google.com doesn't redirect to a lowly "dot Mobey")!

And....why should it???

FACT: Google was supposed to have been a key "backer" of mTLD and the "dot mobey"!:

And who said (besides your distortions) they were a 'key' backer?? They are just another backer for your uninformed information.

And why is Disney.com a redirect?? Cause they don't value it as much as Go.com, to build a site for it???

Your bent logic is it's ok to redirect a .com to a .com, but anything else is .... what, a less use of the domain name? Be it a .net, .us, .de, etc?? Do you ever read what you write?? _\|/_

And please, as you advertise corporations in your sig that don't pay you (for some reason!), what is the correct and universal mobile address for Google??

 

[Work In Progress]

Funny nobody has told me yet why a re-direct is such a horrible thing.

 

[Jeff]

... what is the correct and universal mobile address for Google??

There does not exist an stand-alone developed Google "dot Mobey" website! Period. :yell:

Like so many corporations, they have clearly opted for and adopted the short and easily memorable "M Dot" brand! :music: :imho:
Tick. Tock.

-Jeff