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Located in The Break Room started by lennco, Jul 20, 2012.

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Who is to Blame for the Troubled US Economy?

  1. Both Parties

    174 vote(s)
    49.3%
  2. Neither Party

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    8.2%
  3. Democrats

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    18.7%
  4. Republicans

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    23.8%
Total: 353 vote(s)
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    BTW - with all the talk that people who criticize our government and elected officials apparently hate the United States and should just leave...

    Trump himself has been critical of many other presidents, Obama in particular. He has been blasting the USA on foreign policy, spending and trearies for decades. And his 2016 campaign was one big slam on the United Staes: The country was hiorrible and he was the one who would make it “great again.”

    Why was it ok for him to criticize Presidents and government policies? Why was it ok for him to run for office to change what he didn’t like but now it’s not ok for others to do that?
     
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    Please quote Pres Trump calling the United States a corrupt, racist country controlled by the Jews.

    One thing to criticize policy, people.. another to denigrate your ENTIRE country as racist and unjust. Adults should know the difference without checking msnbc.
     
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    Weird how democrats favorite pimp / sex trafficker dropped out of the news after making bail. I bet if he was tied to Trump instead of Clinton CNN would have it on blast 24/7.
     
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    So you condone having a socialist government??

    It is not just Cortez who wears that title in the party, why would any American even take the chance that our government could end up in socialism, it only takes one person elected to make that happen and then how could any American except that thousands upon thousands of men and women in our military have died so we can remain a democracy and protect our constitution, no way, now that the Democratic Party has shown its capabilities, it doesn’t matter if it’s a senator or what position in the government is, if it is condoned, it is excepted to happen IMO
     
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    On the flip side, The President needs to speak and completely make his position clear on white supremacy, I think that has been a huge tool for the Democratic Party, I would expect he would denounce such hate groups as nazi skinheads, the KKK and ect.

    However he has not as of yet

    These are very complicated times we are living in, unity by the people is a huge problem today, if all the citizens of the US united, that would take care of 3/4 of our problems, we are literally doing our own selves in right now

    In unity we could have control and pretty much set our leaders standards, but I know that is dreaming.
     
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    Did I say that? No, I did not.

    For one thing, The rest of the democratic party is NOT enchanted with
    “The squad”

    Do you pay taxes? Do you have auto insurance? Health insurance?

    You’re paying to maintain roads you never drive on, for schools you kids don’t attend, for first responder services you may not need. Your premiums cover payments for other peoples’ accidents and illnesses, and theirs cover yours.

    Isnt that “socialism?”

    Genuine hard core socialism would be confiscating all your assets - land possessions, etc - and distributing them among the workers.

    People (wolves in sheep’s clothing) have been putting that “socialism” label on the entire Democratic Party because they know it will get an extreme emotional negative reaction out of certain people. Like you.

    Democrat Myth-busting on some “socialist”:issues:

    All the Democrats I know - real everyday working people - WANT to preserve our current form of government. WANT to protect our constitution as it is now. Both were designed to work pretty well by our founders.

    Most of them also want to fix the health care travesty in this country. It’s sorely needed - the insane healthcare costs in this country are responsible for part of the homeless problem we spoke about the other day. A lot of working families are one serious illness away from bankruptcy and losing their home. Im not talking about “immigrants” or “welfare” people. I’m talking about folks who work to provide the goods and services we all use. We can do better.

    All Dems I personally know are pro 2nd amendment. Guess what? Nobody wants to take your guns! I know quite a few who are gun owners themselves - they hunt, they go to the range.... They just want to have better regulation In place to try to make it harder for the crazies to do what they do.. . It won’t stop all of them, but if it stops one that’s lives saved. (I personally think you should have a few extra hoops to jump through to buy an assault weapon as opposed to let’s say a hunting rifle, but I have no problem with someone owning one in principle.)

    Dems I know are split on free college. I personally think there should be free tuitition at state run / community colleges through asssociates or bachelors, but restricted to those who can demonstrate need and a likelihood of success. Good student, clean record. If you can’t meet the requirements, you pay.

    And for those who pay, at least restore the tax breaks for paying off student loans. I worked through college to pay part of my tuition (family and scholarships covered the rest) - I couldn’t do that at today’s tuition rates.
     
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