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The NP's Official USA Political Thread

Located in The Break Room started by lennco, Jul 20, 2012.

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Who is to Blame for the Troubled US Economy?

  1. Both Parties

    169 vote(s)
    49.1%
  2. Neither Party

    29 vote(s)
    8.4%
  3. Democrats

    65 vote(s)
    18.9%
  4. Republicans

    81 vote(s)
    23.5%
Total: 344 vote(s)
  1. enlytend

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    Their mothers, apparently. Preterm births are account for the high mortality rate, and among the cause of that are smoking and drinking during pregnancy, substance abuse and diabetes. Perhaps it's the lack of education that results in mothers using drugs (though legal drugs are pushed by their "healthcare" providers) or eating improperly (though the US govt has always maintained a policy of supporting the biggest manufacturers of the worst foods). But then, when education focuses on feel good studies aimed at building "self esteem" it's no wonder nothing is learned. Not to mention, pop culture in the US glorifies ignorance.

    Have babies, rinse and repeat.

    As long as they grow up to be Democrats.
     
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    You just made my point for me. That state is hurting for homes for these kids. Are qualified loving homes being overlooked because agencies will only place in “traditional” homes?

    I have friends who are a lesbian couple. Christian, very active in their church. They’ve been together over 40 years. Adopted 3 kids - older kids, not babies, and American Indian - two of them are actual brothers.

    Not much demand for older kids of any ethnic background. Those kids were all at high risk for aging out of the system. Instead they got a loving home and family. Definitely not lax parents either - those kids went to church, went to school, did their homework and learned manners and respect. They grew up to be good people.

    Oh and they didn’t “turn the kids gay.” The couple now has a bunch of grandkids and their first great grandchild.
     
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    Why so high in those states? In my state it’s less than half of that. Lack of affordable prenatal care? Lack of health care in general? Poor education? Poverty? Are all the country’s smokers, drunks and addicts in those states, and if so, why?

    Healthy food IS more expensive.

    If the mother is diabetic her health care provider should be treating and monitoring closely for her own safety.

    Mother doesn’t have insurance and can’t afford health care or prenatal care ? Why the f*** not? We’re one of the richest countries in the world, no excuse for that. We can do better.

    These states need to clean up their own back yards instead of adding to their problems.
     
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    This is swhat they really believe.............
     
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    I didn't make your point. You're talking non-sense.

    I love when pro-choicers ask pro-lifers what they’re doing to help kids who are born. First, that’s not an argument to kill a child. Second, chances are, a lot more than you. ~ AB Stuckey

    Christians are not protesting or demanding non-Christian agencies be decertified and blocked from helping children. The Gay Mafia are demanding Christians not be allowed to operate foster car and adoption agencies.

    The only bigots in this scenario are liberals and LGBTQ lobbyist. It's not like there is a shortage of kids. The queer lobby hates Christians more than they care about children in need.
     
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    In NY City, 60% of pregnancies end in abortion.

     
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    Democrats / republicans get a foot hold in the house or senate and block every piece of legislation they can. They complain and bitch about problems but refuse to do anything.

    The democrats in the media exploit stupid people.

    Only idiots think one party is a fault.


     
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    He didn't say rape and incest were the will of God as the questioner implied. He said God is sovereign and can use a bad situation for good.

    That is the foundation of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. God is sovereign. Billions and billions of people believe that.
     
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    Separation of church and state??? Not there, I guess ...

    If they want to play the "God's Will" game ...
    So is E.D. If your man parts don't work, that's also "God's Will." It's God's way of telling you to hang it up and get a hobby.

    Great news for insurance costs - those meds won't need to be covered any more!
     
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    The drama and bullsh*t you people pour out.

    1) Believing a life is valuable despite the circumstances of it's creation, isn't Gov endorsing religion.

    2) Birth control is less than $10 a month. If you're poor, on welfare it's free. If you're a student, it's free. If you're a 70 year old nun, you have to pay.
     
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    Prove that is a lie.

    NY passed a law removing all criminal penalties for killing an unborn child. VA stopped because of the push back after the Gov's infanticide comments.

     
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    First of all, I was specifically addressing your comment about adoption and foster agencies who won't consider same-sex parent homes. There would be more homes available if they did, and more children in need would be placed.

    A fetus is a potential person, not a "child". A lot of those early abortion embryos won't even make it full term regardless. Odds are 7% of them will die before they're out of infancy in GA, OH, AL

    I put my money where my mouth is - if I see a need, I chip in. You?

    Want to end abortion? Since you didn't like my suggestion that men / boys should be educated to always use protection unless both partners were planning a baby*, how about vasectomies for all males old enough to have sex? No muss, no fuss, reversible when you plan to have a family.

    Then you just have to argue about the medically necessary ones.

    * And before you start with the "but but but the women should take care of that" ...Not all women are candidates for the more effective forms of female birth control. They have nasty side effects - risk of blood clots, stroke, elevated breast cancer risk, etc.
     
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    Bringing up "God is sovereign" is endorsing religion.

    Even suggesting that someone should be forced to bear a rape or incest baby is abhorrent. Suggesting they should because "God is sovereign", in a government meeting, is someone pushing their religious beliefs into government policy.

    Even Sharia law isn't as strict as a some of these abortion bills. (Islam allows it up to 4 months.)
     
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    Not true. There are less homes available because queer lobby hates Christians and stupid liberals pretend just being a Christian and following your faith is a violation of the #1A and non-establishment clause.



    IT IS A HUMAN. HUMAN FETUS, BABY. >>> >> not a dog, or a fish. << <<<< . It's a human before he or she is born, and human after.

    10-week-fetus21.jpg


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    So we should kill more of them? Every successful abortion ends a human life. He or she was a live human baby before it's was murdered.

    We've been over this several times. A man is responsible for care of the mother while pregnant and for the baby after birth. <<<< that's the law in every state.

    You are literally making up arguments I've never said.

    We should kill millions of unborn human babies because of outliers or something.
     
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    A rapist's fetus is more important than the toll on a woman....

    In 2013, this thread:
    "in relation to the population of the United States, the number of individuals that actually think a woman who has been raped has any obligation is insignificantly insignificant."
    "Quick, make the conservative state he is pro life, so we can suggest through innuendo that he wants raped women to raise the rape-offspring." Phhhtt.
    https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-nps-official-usa-political-thread.764342/page-57#post-4494219
    Now 2019, they're all gonna come out of their holes to demand a rapist's fetus be protected and a woman be forced to take a heavier toll on her body and mind....
     
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    Amazing the mental gymnastics pro-abortion zealots use to avoid the truth. Next legal battle on abortion will be the right to life and person hood of an unborn child.

    Scientific understanding is catching up.
     
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    Imagine thiinking one living thing has the right to live off of another living thing in an awfully burdensome way, when the latter had no choice in the matter......
     
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    Imagine creating a human life, then feeling inconvenienced about the whole thing and killing him or her, without any say in the matter.
     
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    This is horrible, evil reasoning. The baby didn't ask to be created. Freedom requires being responsibile for you actions. If you don't want a baby take birth-control or stop having sex.

     
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    It was still referring to abortions for rape, an issue that should have been fully settled long ago, but not by Americans :ROFL:.....Always lagging behind, so hard to figure it out
    No use arguing that one anymore
    Lost cause apparently
     
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    Abortion ends the life of a human regardless how he or she was conceived. You're analogy is still an evil rationalization.

     

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