The LLLL.com sales and discussion thread

[italiandragon]

Hello, I think it would be pretty useful to keep track of all LLLL.com sales , even the little ones under $100 so that , pretty soon , when the available LLLL.com will be finished , we`ll have a better idea on market prices.

It is important that these sales are confirmed. So before to post, make sure payment went OK.

I will start with todays` Sedo confirmed sales:

FISE.com 2,700 Euros
TSRT.com US $760
VEUP.com US $1,700


Also, I found interesting to see this average LLLL, getting bids up to $51 and reserve not me. It says it all.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...110154111735_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQfromZR40QQfviZ1

 

[forge]

llllsales.com website just updated with over 100 Chinese 4.cn sales all over $1K. Wow.

Yep, more on that here, and a very close NP connection:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/chinese-llll-com-bubble.879337/page-13

 

[Beezy]

HOLY SH*T


klzg.com 3,628 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
lrjr.com 2,680 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
qccq.com 2,659 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
jjyc.com 1,861 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
jjtd.com 1,798 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
qmbb.com 1,671 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
qqls.com 1,608 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
jdtt.com 1,576 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
jdpp.com 1,576 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
nncj.com 1,576 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
ppfw.com 1,576 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
tzdd.com 1,529 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
xxtd.com 1,435 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
yccj.com 1,404 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
mtjj.com 1,356 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
wyyb.com 1,322 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
qqhw.com 1,310 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
ttqm.com 1,304 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
mmwy.com 1,294 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
qqbm.com 1,293 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
tfzg.com 1,277 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
wywp.com 1,261 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
wqfc.com 1,245 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
rcxb.com 1,231 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
nmww.com 1,230 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
stzg.com 1,215 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
sslk.com 1,215 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
ppky.com 1,214 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
ppgk.com 1,210 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
wbzg.com 1,210 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
wwrm.com 1,199 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
kpww.com 1,198 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
ppfj.com 1,198 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
nndj.com 1,198 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
lpjj.com 1,198 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
mkww.com 1,193 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
mmtj.com 1,184 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
dzdw.com 1,182 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
ggsq.com 1,182 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
jknn.com 1,182 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
yywc.com 1,182 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
pddq.com 1,181 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
tfzz.com 1,167 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
ssqg.com 1,153 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
qwcc.com 1,152 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
ljdd.com 1,151 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
fftj.com 1,151 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
ttnj.com 1,151 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
bbfy.com 1,151 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
hskk.com 1,145 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
hkcz.com 1,145 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
nrjj.com 1,138 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
pjjm.com 1,138 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
qqmk.com 1,135 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
cwjw.com 1,135 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
jjby.com 1,135 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
pwnn.com 1,131 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
nnpk.com 1,130 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
jjdp.com 1,130 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
nnjq.com 1,130 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
bxbw.com 1,127 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
bbqg.com 1,126 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
fwsw.com 1,125 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
mjll.com 1,122 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
fstj.com 1,122 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
xqwd.com 1,119 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
hthw.com 1,119 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
dhsw.com 1,119 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
dtkk.com 1,119 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
wnsw.com 1,119 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
wnhh.com 1,119 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
qjjh.com 1,114 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
kpcz.com 1,106 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
llcq.com 1,105 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
wddr.com 1,105 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
qsff.com 1,105 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
mwwj.com 1,104 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
qgfd.com 1,104 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
ggzl.com 1,104 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
wpnn.com 1,104 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
wrpw.com 1,104 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
dhhk.com 1,104 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
dhjw.com 1,104 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
jcff.com 1,104 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
fmnw.com 1,104 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
cblw.com 1,102 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
nwwy.com 1,102 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
jlhk.com 1,099 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
jrhh.com 1,098 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
hrhk.com 1,098 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
jjnb.com 1,098 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
rbbw.com 1,098 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
pnnw.com 1,098 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
hhxp.com 1,098 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
bshw.com 1,096 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
nwpj.com 1,090 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
jjkp.com 1,090 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
lhkw.com 1,089 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
jylr.com 1,089 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
zpmq.com 1,088 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN

EDIT could only see the first 100 but here are the rest:


hkyn.com 1,088 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
lthk.com 1,088 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
bfzr.com 1,088 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
nzgy.com 1,088 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
ddqs.com 1,088 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
tqmq.com 1,088 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
jwnn.com 1,088 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
hkks.com 1,088 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
nwwp.com 1,086 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
jfmn.com 1,083 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
hjjn.com 1,082 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
hhwr.com 1,082 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
grkh.com 1,082 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
gtnw.com 1,075 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
qrgr.com 1,073 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
cjgr.com 1,072 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
rpxm.com 1,072 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
pjjh.com 1,067 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
ffbq.com 1,056 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
jkou.com 568 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
hqos.com 457 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
imxq.com 410 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
hjbu.com 300 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
mqnu.com 276 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
dlut.com 253 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN
udku.com 132 USD 2015-10-14 4.CN

 

[DomainVP]

HOLY SH*T

So let's chat about that for a minute... did someone run over to 4cn and buy out their 4L inventory?
Or was this a rush of many investors buying, triggered by an information event?

 

[Beezy]

So let's chat about that for a minute... did someone run over to 4cn and buy out their 4L inventory?
Or was this a rush of many investors buying, triggered by an information event?

Check Forge's link. More info there. Someone auctioned off a large portfolio.

Yep, more on that here, and a very close NP connection:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/chinese-llll-com-bubble.879337/page-13

 

[italiandragon]

So let's chat about that for a minute... did someone run over to 4cn and buy out their 4L inventory?
Or was this a rush of many investors buying, triggered by an information event?

Not sure but I have been telling you guys about the TON of emails I get from Chinese lowballers?

Here a perfect examples in broken Englih, other messages come in Mandarin.

 

[domeen]

Not sure but I have been telling you guys about the TON of emails I get from Chinese lowballers?

Here a perfect examples in broken Englih, other messages come in Mandarin.


Show attachment 17421

this one actually is a big buyer, I have sold a lot to him. his current max is $950 I think. but if you want to unload a lot fast, its not that bad

 

[elmoney]

Not sure but I have been telling you guys about the TON of emails I get from Chinese lowballers?

Here a perfect examples in broken Englih, other messages come in Mandarin.


Show attachment 17421

Also received offer from him, he offered $500 for my quad premiums.

 

[italiandragon]

I used to reply with $5,000 firm translated as well in Mandarin (thanks to Google translate) but lately I just ignore them.

 

[Jen-Sin]

We laugh at the poor English.

And they will laugh at our Google-translated Chinese too.

What's important is to send the right message across.

 

[italiandragon]

We laugh at the poor English.

And they will laugh at our Google-translated Chinese too.

What's important is to send the right message across.

I did not mean to offend anyone, English is not my native language either, so chill.

 

[MR PACKER]

Got the exact same email tonight!!!
#################################
On 14/10/2015 2:14 AM, Norlin wrote:
> steven jones ：
> I'm interested in purchasing your 4l .com domainnames,and the domain
> not include a,i,e,o,u,v.
> how about 550$ for each to my want?if you are agree we can send deal now!
> if you have much more 4l .com please let me know,i want owner more
> than 5000 4l .com domains.
> if you want get a quickly transfer please let me know your dn.com
> account we can send deal now! Best Regards
> lakshan
>
> krlh.com
> npnz.com
>
> Send from my iPhone
> 2015/10/13 23:10

 

[italiandragon]

they are buying everything

 

[vlad74]

With all these buying, just wonder if (and when) the normal (non-Chineese) LLLL.com will reach USD 1,000 mark. Probably when CHIPs will reach 4-6K (keeping a ratio of 5x).

 

[Domainzy]

With all these buying, just wonder if (and when) the normal (non-Chineese) LLLL.com will reach USD 1,000 mark. Probably when CHIPs will reach 4-6K (keeping a ratio of 5x).

I have been saying since the year started, that any llll.com will reach 1k each. Thats why I'm collecting 1,000 llll.coms.... thats 1 million dollars

 

[thetruman]

reserves will not last long, then hands on the"non premium"

 

[domeen]

I have been saying since the year started, that any llll.com will reach 1k each. Thats why I'm collecting 1,000 llll.coms.... thats 1 million dollars

so in your MIND you already got 1M dollars?

 

[mirul]

I have been saying since the year started, that any llll.com will reach 1k each. Thats why I'm collecting 1,000 llll.coms.... thats 1 million dollars

Woww!!! :P

 

[Domainzy]

so in your MIND you already got 1M dollars?

1M....Not in my MIND....If I can count my Real estate & Bitcoin

But yes Im still collecting 1,000 4 letter .coms not for me but for my kids. By the time they are 18, Im sure 1,000 4letter .com's will be helpful

 

[DomainVP]

I have been saying since the year started, that any llll.com will reach 1k each. Thats why I'm collecting 1,000 llll.coms.... thats 1 million dollars

I agree, I think that any CCCC.com that is favored by the Chinese market will reach $1000 each in time.

The peril with all of this is if they continue to treat domains like currency, it will mirror BitCoin in that a 4L chip will reach $3k - $5k and then reach a plateau. This is where all of the 'bubble' talk is coming from. I personally think it's a bubble, but fortunes have been made riding bubbles.

Get in at low, sell at high - 1Mil indeed.

 

[italiandragon]

Haters gonna hate, no matter what.

I remember back in 2007/2008 we had the same discussions and they were telling me it was a bubble.

It may be a bubble but hey guess what? Bubbles can last a very long time and go beyond any logic.

If they just realized how many new people/companies around the world were going to need a new short domain, they would have made a nice few $$$$$ along the way.

 

[equity78]

It is also harder to define something as a bubble when there is a finite amount, you cannot print more or grow more than the 456,976 four letter .coms in existence.

 

[ODST.com]

It is also harder to define something as a bubble when there is a finite amount, you cannot print more or grow more than the 456,976 four letter .coms in existence.

Agreed! Keep in mind that this number is also a drop in the bucket compared to potential buyer population

 

[vlad74]

From LLL.com thread:

Checked last 100 LLL.com reported sales and average sale price was $35k and i thing that is reasonable floor price for LLL.com at the moment.

And again the same question, do we have 1/26 rule for LLLL.com or not....
If the rule is correct, then based on floor for LLL .com of 35K
- floor for LL.com shall be be 910K, and
- floor for 4L shall1,35K

If you do not agree that the 1/26 rule works, what will be your arguments? Old argument, that it is too much LLLL.com for domains to keep them as collectibles (as probably is done with LL and LLL) is not valid any more - I would assume that number of domainers in China will soon exceed the number of available LLLL.com. As someone already mentioned on NP today, China’s middle class is now bigger than America’s middle class. Article on Marketwatch says: The Chinese middle class has grown to outnumber the U.S. middle class for the first time, with 109 million Chinese adults now counted in that category compared with 92 million American adults, according to a Credit Suisse report.

What do you think on 1/26 rule?

 

[djum]

I would say rule 26 works, just with small adjustment.
Maybe not 26, but 36 if we compare LLL and LLLL, and 45-50 when compare LL and LLL.
And going further down the feeding line LLLL and LLLLL 15-20.
More characters = less is coefficient.

 

[Nile Patel]

I can see Chinese premium will reach 3K easily in one year as that was told by Oliver Hoger(big 4l.com Investor) to me in my personal communication with him last month. He offered me good price for my names I refused to sale him.
When i asked him for non chinese premium he told me it will stay around $129 , and thanks to him i started buying all of them everywhere around $100 - $150 and look at now just within few weeks.
I see so many non Chinese premium sale above $500 why is like that , who are buying this for that crazy prices, it seem to me non chinese will reach above $500 easily in few months.
Any one has doubt on this? And Cheers to all 4l.com Holders.