.mobi The importance of indexing & SEO ...

[Jeff]

1.) Case in point ...
Search cnn mobile site on Google™:
First indexed natural result is: m.cnn.com

2.) Case in point ...
Search yahoo mobile on Google™:
Second indexed natural result is: m.yahoo.com

3.) Case in point ...
Search facebook mobile site on Google™:
First indexed natural result is: m.facebook.com

Indexing and SEO are, of course, critical for overall promotions & advancement ... it is fair to say that those common corporate defensive .MOBI registrations / being simply "redirected" to respective .COM sites are doing nothing for indexing or SE ranking or awareness or adoption of the undeveloped ".MOBI", IMHO.

Please discuss! IYHO's. :talk:
-Jeff

4.) Proponents seem to love the "FoxNews.mobi" redirect thing ...

Here are the actual results for a search of foxnews mobile:

First indexed result: foxnews.com/mobile
Second indexed result: foxnews.proteus.com

-->> "foxnews.proteus.com" :red:

 

[snoop]

1.) Case in point ...
Search cnn mobile site on Google™:
First indexed natural result is: m.cnn.com

2.) Case in point ...
Search yahoo mobile on Google™:
Second indexed natural result is: m.yahoo.com

3.) Case in point ...
Search facebook mobile site on Google™:
First indexed natural result is: m.facebook.com

Indexing and SEO are, of course, critical for overall promotions & advancement ... it is fair to say that those common corporate defensive .MOBI registrations / being simply "redirected" to respective .COM sites are doing nothing for indexing or SE ranking or awareness or adoption of the undeveloped ".MOBI", IMHO.

Please discuss! IYHO's. :talk:
-Jeff

4.) Proponents seem to love the "FoxNews.mobi" redirect thing ...

Here are the actual results for a search of foxnews mobile:

First indexed result: foxnews.com/mobile
Second indexed result: foxnews.proteus.com

-->> "foxnews.proteus.com" :red:

All of the top ten sites on the web are using subdomains for their mobile site (m. and mobile.). Wikipedia was the last of that bunch to launch a mobile site and they have now started mobile.wikipedia.org.

Whether Fox News uses a .mobi of not isn't of much concern, it simply isn't a major site and nobody is going to follow the lead of an Internet minnow, just like people aren't going to follow the lead of Purina or the Bank of America. I don't think there is even a site in the top 100 using .mobi for their mobile offerings. The standards battle is between mobile. and m. in my view.

 

[Jeff]

I just happened to notice the Google results for ebay mobile, as well:
#1 result: m.ebay.com :gl:

And yet, mTLD somehow now seems fit to actually promote (as a "Featured .mobi site", no less!) undeveloped (unindexed and unpromoted by Ebay™) and redirected "ebay.mobi" prominently on its homepge: http://mtld.mobi :blink:

This further compounds the existing questions and credibility issues at mTLD, in my opinion.
-Jeff

 

[mjnels]

The standards battle is between mobile. and m. in my view.

i doubt there will be ever be any real "standard" for mobile sites.

people today still use both both sub-domains and /directory for things.... so i would expect this to remain the same with the /mobile, mDOT, mobileDOT, and .mobi situation.. it'll be a mix... if any "standard" ever comes out of it ill be really surprised.

 

[GeoOwners]

search NamePros mobile site on google


the results will amaze you


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[Jeff]

i doubt there will be ever be any real "standard" for mobile sites.

people today still use both sub-domains and /directory for things.... so i would expect this to remain the same with the /mobile, mDOT, mobileDOT, and .mobi situation.. it'll be a mix... if any "standard" ever comes out of it ill be really surprised.

I appreciate your candor ... the standard, and "trustmark", was to have been the ".MOBI", but it's clear that most major corporations have not adopted it or chosen to fully develop and then promote their stand-alone .MOBI's, IMHO.

Can we actually list any top corporations that have fully developed their own stand-alone .MOBI's ... and are promoting them both in marketing and in the search engines?
Specific examples, and substantive and informed reasonings please.

Thanks.
-Jeff

Added:

search NamePros mobile site on google


the results will amaze you

#3 result; well done RJ! :talk:

 

[mjnels]

I appreciate your candor ... the standard, and "trustmark", was to have been the ".MOBI", but it's clear that corporations have not adopted it or chosen to fully develop and then promote their stand-alone .MOBI's, IMHO.

sure, one of mTLD's ultimate goals is to make .MOBI a mobile trustmark... this is a huge thing to achieve so i've had my doubts about this since 2006 when i bought most my first mobi's. but more power to mTLD if they make this happen years later, not expecting it though. in fact early on i believe i heard one of mTLD's employee's say something like "there will be mDOT there will be mobileDOT and others....." but im not entirely sure so dont hold me to that statement.

Can we actually list any top corporations that have fully developed their own stand-alone .MOBI's ... and are promoting them both in marketing and in the search engines?
Specific examples, and substantive and informed reasonings please.

The SEO thing is a valid point... but, the FoxNews.mobi advertising campaign is probably one of the biggest, real world advertisements of .mobi... no it isnt going to do anything amazing for the .mobi TLD in general or domainers but i turn on my TV one day and see a permanent .mobi ad on the screen (that's still there anytime of day).. and newscasters saying "visit FoxNews.mobi" when they sign off... of course that's a good one.

those other sites you listed are all just re-directs without any form of advertisement of the .MOBI so they dont really count... better than nothing, but probably only domainers know about them.

 

[scandiman]

Can we actually list any top corporations that have fully developed their own stand-alone .MOBI's ... and are promoting them both in marketing and in the search engines?
Specific examples, and substantive and informed reasonings please.

BMW.mobi

BMW.mobi is the #1 search result for "BMW" in google's mobile search http://www.google.com/m?eosr=on&q=bmw&site=mobile&sa=X&oi=blended&ct=more-results

3 million page views in '07 without any promotion http://www.mobiadnews.com/?p=2809

Actively promoting it in mobile channels http://www.mobilemarketer.com/cms/news/ad-networks/1729.html


EDIT:

Wow Jeff, you're awfully quiet, you stared at the info about BMW.mobi for at least 20 minutes. I know it must pain you to know that a major corporation is using .mobi within ALL your parameters, I bet you thought you set your bar high enough that no one could jump over it. I'm curious how you'll twist this with your infamous .mobi negativity.

 

[Jeff]

Wow Jeff, you're awfully quiet, you stared at the info about BMW.mobi for at least 20 minutes. I know it must pain you to know that a major corporation is using .mobi within ALL your parameters, I bet you thought you set your bar high enough that no one could jump over it. I'm curious how you'll twist this with your infamous .mobi negativity.

Relax, Paul ... I've been on the phone since before Noon EST and before you even posted here, so there is no conspiracy or attempts to avoid your post(s) in an reasonable and timely manner IMHO.

I do recall that BMW was one of the first to use the ".MOBI" (from earlier discussions here on the #1 Namepros .MOBI Forum™), and I see that it is indexed in second place on Google search for bmw mobile:
bmw.mobi

Assuming BMW is still otherwise marketing & promoting their ".MOBI" site, I would like to start the official list of top corporations here at this time:

List:

bmw.mobi

Thanks much for your input.
-Jeff

 

[scandiman]

I do recall that BMW was one of the first to use the ".MOBI"

Thanks much for your input.

reps appreciated for the spoon feed, I'll let you recall all the others on your own time.

 

[Jeff]

Let us not forget the BiGGY ... google mobile: :gl:

www.google.com/mobile (at #1) and
m.google.com (at #5), respectively IMHO. :talk:

The only one seeming to be promoting the one-time "backer" and "Google.mobi" redirect ... is, as would be expected, mTLD's own mobithinking.com :red: :imho:

-Jeff

List:

bmw.mobi

 

[hawkeye]

Interesting how that searching works. I just searched for 'mobi troll', and guess what came up...? It must be the SEO.

 

[Kate]

Interesting how that searching works. I just searched for 'mobi troll', and guess what came up...? It must be the SEO.

I was skeptical but it really works

 

[Jeff]

Besides the one, are there any other actual fully developed, stand-alone ".MOBI" websites of top corporations that are promoting them both in marketing and indexed in the search engines (SEO)? :blink:

If so, and once verified ... I'll add them to the Master List? :gl:
-Jeff

Master List:

bmw.mobi

 

[hawkeye]

No Jeff, I believe that is the only one! Most corps are dropping their .mobi's, and even some .com's, to go with the 'highly brandable .tel'! Who'd a thought! You'll have to search yourself to find any other ones, if you want to add to your list. (don't know why nobody thought of making a list before? )

 

[namewaiter]

this is just too funny ... really no point whatsoever, no one ever said 'every company out there is going use .mobi'

jeph - who are you trying to save now? it seems to me there are many that need to be saved from you.

what about all those newbies who saw post after post, month after month, from you proclaiming how brandable .tel was/is. and all this coming from a seasoned 'staff emeritus' member. we've seen some pretty hideous .tel registrations, most likely as a direct result of your insidious ramblings.

i know, i know... 'stay on topic friend' blah, blah, blah

 

[Jeff]

Here is the topic of the thread:
The importance of indexing & SEO ... :talk:

Google search for msn mobile:
First natural result is mobile.msn.com :gl:

Seems to be a(nother) corporate .MOBI "redirect" ... from the official MSN Mobile™ site:

Or open your mobile browser and enter:
mobile.msn.com

:music:

-Jeff

 

[Traveler]

Is google still doing the mobile search?

 

[Jeff]

Google search for youtube mobile:
First natural result is m.youtube.com :blink:

Link: http://m.youtube.com

YouTube™ ".mobi" is owned by Bosheng Tang, of "Hangzhou Brandsum Technology and Trading Limited." :red:

-Jeff

 

[hawkeye]

I found one too!!! When you put in 'Best Buy mobile' in google, m.bestbuy.com is the #2 result!! :lala: This is great! I'm gonna try to find more!!




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