discuss THE CONS OF .COM

[WNC HOLDINGS]

For those who are fond of downvoting, proceed to doing so if you haven’t already. Yes, you read it correctly. We welcome your downvote. Most of what you read post this point will likely be considered unpopular by the “conventional domain investors” who subscribe to “.com tribalism”. With this stated, let’s get the -23 reputation score up to, or past, a record -100.

Now, there’s a simple question we’d like to pose:

WHAT ARE THE CONS OF THE .COM?

It’s apparent that many domain investors live by the “.com only” investment strategy. Whether this is by choice OR not having the courage/ability to endorse something new is what many don’t openly discuss. We’ve noticed that some investors act like a scorned ex when they hear about any extension other than their beloved .com. Some people might call it an obsession; while others might say it’s “normal”. We simply ask “why”?

Does the .com have any greater utility than any other extension? Last we checked, it doesn’t seem to offer too much beyond what other extensions offer. Does being a die-hard endorser of .com mean one can actually “own” the domains they rent at some point? Does “renting” a .com equate to being immune to online censorship? We’re NOT asking for a friend. We’re inquiring for those who’ve “thought it” but didn’t “ask it”.

We want your thoughts on what makes the .com so supreme. The broken record that is “top sales” and “web traffic” aren’t necessary here. Please forgo the “I also have .net, .org and some .xyz’s” counter. There are over 1000+ ICANN TLDs; and we’d like to know why YOU single out one and treat a few others like slot-filling sidekicks. It feels like the .com bubble is haunting the domain investment world. Maybe it’s just a dream though.

Share your thoughts below. Don’t be shy. Show your devotion to the .com and the downvote.

(Smiles)

Chris
WNC HOLDINGS

 

[WNC HOLDINGS]

@zomainhacks

We wouldn’t say they’re dumb. Many aim to make money; and very well do. That’s “their goal”. As for whether we’re all doing more than just renting and depending on a registrar’s permission to log-in and transfer out is a totally different discussion.

 

[WNC HOLDINGS]

Only geniuses can come up with these type of questions.
Confusing new members and steer them in the wrong direction.

Ask and you shall receive right? A question that doesn’t receive a clear answer could be shining a light on something more at play.

A little context behind the investing culture is what we’ve requested. A double-down on “.com is king” is all we’ve received. Hmm.

Don’t forget to downvote this post though.

 

[WNC HOLDINGS]

Do you believe that .coms are the only extension to invest in (I have been considering some .net and org, but am not sure)

We say go for it. Maybe even consider adding a few other TLDs into the mix as well. You don’t have to solely invest in .com’s. This is despite what some .com investors might imply is “the right way to domain invest”.

 

[WNC HOLDINGS]

You guys are on a roll. We’ve gone from -27 to -107 in less than 24hrs! Keep it up. Is -365 too much to ask? A (-) for every day of the year. Continue to showcase your love for .com. Don’t forget that love means nothing if you don’t, or aren’t allowed to, “renew your rental-cycle”.

@Bob Hawkes As someone who frequently posts, what’s the highest recorded downvote count in this forum? We truly want to know.

 

[bmugford]

We say go for it. Maybe even consider adding a few other TLDs into the mix as well. You don’t have to solely invest in .com’s. This is despite what some .com investors might imply is “the right way to domain invest”.

People can invest in whatever they want. I own .org, .net, .us and some others.

With that said .com is where the vast majority of the money is.

Source - Actual reported sales AKA stats.

Brad

 

[WNC HOLDINGS]

People can invest in whatever they want. I own .org, .net, .us and some others.

With that said .com is where the vast majority of the money is.

Source - Actual reported sales AKA stats.

Brad

“Reported sales” are enticing to some. “Greater utility” is enticing to others. A domain pegged to valuable content and innovative concepts “should” be considered more valuable than a domain that relies on being short, repeatedly renewed and exchanging hands over and over.

Don’t forget to hit the downvote on this reply.

 

[bmugford]

“Reported sales” are enticing to some. “Greater utility” is enticing to others. A domain pegged to valuable content and innovative concepts “should” be considered more valuable than a domain that relies on being short, repeatedly renewed and exchanging hands over and over.

Don’t forget to hit the downvote on this reply.

A Timex has the same utility as a Rolex. They both tell time. One is still far more desired.

Brad

 

[WNC HOLDINGS]

A Timex has the same utility as a Rolex. They both tell time. One is still far more desired.

Brad

Tell that to the watch manufacturers who advertise pulse-reading, calendar reminders and a ton of other utilities you don’t receive with a “conventional watch”. Don’t get us wrong. Timex and Rolex’s are nice! We’re watch owners ourselves. Neither is a first choice for us when jogging or exercising though.

Do you know what can be exercised while wearing a Timex or Rolex without damaging them? The downvote. Be sure to give it a few presses.

 

[biggie]

what’s the highest recorded downvote count in this forum? We truly want to know.

Hi

so, what is the point in starting a thread, and continuing to seek negative points from it?

to me, it illustrates a level of immaturity.

and with that mindset, it's doubtful that one could hold a logical discussion.

imo...

 

[Steven McEvoy]

…. people who just don’t get it… do you realize their are people out there that don’t even know their is other extensions besides .com? I was talking to someone the other day and I said it’s “domain”.shop and they were like .shop?

The internet has been here for a while however, I’d you’re not tech savvy or care about building websites/starting a business. You’re not going to care about learning the other extensions or even look them up.

Their is no cons it’s just the fact it’s the most popular extension and will always be the one to get.

 

[Future Sensors]

Don’t forget to downvote this post though.

This is getting a little tiring.

 

[WNC HOLDINGS]

Hi

so, what is the point in starting a thread, and continuing to seek negative points from it?

to me, it illustrates a level of immaturity.

and with that mindset, it's doubtful that one could hold a logical discussion.

imo...

A level of immaturity? Our lengthy dialogue and coherent points clearly counter such an assertion. Requesting the downvote doesn’t make any point made by either party any less valuable. Unless you’re implying otherwise. We’re not demanding it be pressed. We’re simply taking a tally of how many investors have an unwavering commitment to the status quo style of domain investing. That’s all.

An alternative approach to polling if you will.

 

[WNC HOLDINGS]

This is getting a little tiring.

We’re not demanding it be pressed. We’re simply taking a tally of how many investors have an unwavering commitment to the status quo style of domain investing. That’s all.

An alternative approach to polling if you will.

 

[Zanok]

…..and there’s only (1) .c. Trading in “.com” for a “.c” is the next “upgrade”.

Chris
WNC HOLDINGS

Unfortunately, it's not because you respond with novels every time someone challenges your claims that your arguments make sense.

You just cannot use the utility factor in your favor when 99.99% of people can't see alt-root domain names and you pretend that .c is the next upgrade to .com...

If your objective was to get attention, you did it right. Your website probably got more traffic in past 24 hours than ever before.

 

[WNC HOLDINGS]

…. people who just don’t get it… do you realize their are people out there that don’t even know their is other extensions besides .com? I was talking to someone the other day and I said it’s “domain”.shop and they were like .shop?

The internet has been here for a while however, I’d you’re not tech savvy or care about building websites/starting a business. You’re not going to care about learning the other extensions or even look them up.

Their is no cons it’s just the fact it’s the most popular extension and will always be the one to get.

This reads as more of a “marketing and awareness” issue. Registrars abroad make it a point to offer a plethora of extension options to consumers; so the idea of successfully leveraging a TLD other than .com isn’t the lost cause it’s often made out to be.

We get it. Somehow having a portfolio that’s solely .com prompts some investors to denounce the pure logic behind utility, variety and accessibility. If it makes anyone feel better, we have “thepurelogic.com” available. It’s available to the most devoted .com investors.

PM us about it and/or hit the downvote to reiterate your stance.

 

[HotKey]

One of the cons of dot-com is the easy money approach by inexperienced entrants, resulting in an early exit from the industry leaving behind only a wringing of hands and a tale of woe.

One of the pros of being a member on Namepros is, we won't sugar coat the domains or expectations of them that new entrants bring to the table.

Regardless of our diversified charges or stalwart defenders, if you stick around long enough and dig around a bit, the cons to dot-com are found not in blanket proclamations but in honest dialogue on specific domain examples between new investors and experienced ones.

**

Saturation in the dot-com space. To the point of too often low quality naming choices, clouding consideration of other TLD spaces.

 

[WNC HOLDINGS]

Unfortunately, it's not because you respond with novels every time someone challenges your claims that your arguments make sense.

You just cannot use the utility factor in your favor when 99.99% of people can't see alt-root domain names and you pretend that .c is the next upgrade to .com...

If your objective was to get attention, you did it right. Your website probably got more traffic in past 24 hours than ever before.

It’s good to see you’ve been reading from the sidelines and decided to get in on the action. It seems the idea of a .c leaves some perturbed. We’ve made it clear that we’re proponents for the leveraging of all extensions. To be clear, we rent and leverage .com like everyone else here.

Thank you for the novel jab as well. Maybe we’ll have a best seller someday. We wouldn’t expect anyone who lives their life by the 4-letter .com rule to read it though. (Smiles) Proofofmint.com might be an easier read though. Imagine being able to rent proofofmint.com AND own the .proofofmint extension. We offer that option.

What’s easier than finding fault in an alternative viewpoint? Pressing the downvote. Try it.

 

[adoni]

Only geniuses can come up with these type of questions.
Confusing new members and steer them in the wrong direction.

Let's see your .dan has almost 1800 names, only 22 sales, from what's showing, bunch of 3 letter .us

Your sig promotes .org

So it would seem you agree with the OP?

You push .org in sig, your Dan page is full of .us on page 1

Where's your .com's at? Since right now it looks like you only try to sell none .com's?

I buy .com's all the time, since we have hunreds of developed .com and .net's in the big 10 industries

So show the .com's and .nets with prices

 

[bmugford]

We’re not demanding it be pressed. We’re simply taking a tally of how many investors have an unwavering commitment to the status quo style of domain investing. That’s all.

An alternative approach to polling if you will.

Who is "we"?

 

[WNC HOLDINGS]

One of the cons of dot-com is the easy money approach by inexperienced entrants, resulting in an early exit from the industry leaving behind only a wringing of hands and a tale of woe.

One of the pros of being a member on Namepros is, we won't sugar coat the domains or expectations of them that new entrants bring to the table.

Regardless of our diversified charges or stalwart defenders, if you stick around long enough and dig around a bit, the cons to dot-com are found not in blanket proclamations but in honest dialogue on specific domain examples between new investors and experienced ones.

**

Saturation in the dot-com space. To the point of too often low quality naming choices, clouding consideration of other TLD spaces.

Nice breakdown. There’s no objection to Namepros being a forum filled with valuable viewpoints. It’s the need to “stick around long enough” and “dig around” that’s concerning. A platform like this shouldn’t be a haven for bias. Ok, the .com is king. Hopefully not just because of “constant renewals” and “renter say-so”.

We’re all for the no sugar-coating approach. It saves time. However, it’s leading with this approach that can make certain viewpoints read more like anti-evolution and anti-creativity rhetoric. The fact .com has been the “unicorn TLD” since the infamous bubble warrants more dialogue about other TLDs. At least we think so.

@Bob hawks

 

[WNC HOLDINGS]

Who is "we"?

Our team. We also speak in concert with those who’ve expressed their agreement with our viewpoint on the need for more creativity and innovation in the investment space.

A better investment culture benefits “everyone”. This is regardless of who agrees with “better” being possible and/or necessary.

 

[johnn]

Our team = husband & wife.

 

[WNC HOLDINGS]

Our team = husband & wife.

“Our team = husband & wife”

equates to

“Please provide greater disclosure of identity”.

While we work on that, visit proofofmint.com AND click the downvote before doing so.

#not your conventional holdings company

(Smiles)

 

[Sutruk]

OK I'll bite in this desperate "I just registered a bunch of new gtld extensions so I hope they are worth something" thread.

We also speak in concert with those who’ve expressed their agreement with our viewpoint

We, the thousands of millions of people in our beautiful world, that see the value of a .com as the clearly defining extension of a domain name, salute you, the few hundreds of people that think otherwise.

A platform like this shouldn’t be a haven for bias. Ok, the .com is king. Hopefully not just because of “constant renewals” and “renter say-so”.

No. .com is king because it is what clearly defines a domain name. People see hello.com and see that's a domain.

People see hello.kitty and they don't know if that's an extension or an ending and beginning of a phrase.

Whatever is the extension other than the .com, they will redirect a nice amount of traffic of first users to the .com, until they realise that what they are looking for is not in the .com

Not to mention the high amount of emails sent to the .com instead to the .whatever extension

So, if you want to send crazy amounts of free traffic to another site, just register a .nondotcom extension and spend crazy amounts in marketing. The .com owner will thank you for the free traffic to their site forever.

Not to mention, if you want to lose a high amount of crucial and important emails sent to the "catchall" .com instead of your .whatever extension, do it.

Domain investors know very well the value of a .com because it's what sells better. But if you want to think as an end user, it's the same. Every end user would prefer a .com for starting a business instead of another extension, because everybody knows that if you have the .com you have all the traffic and the true domain extension for your desired brand.

 

[WNC HOLDINGS]

@Sutruk,

It’s obvious your use of the world as a profile photo lends some extra merit to your “millions of people” viewpoint. (Smiles) We’ll check back with you once other territories throughout the world come online. Whether there’s enough .com variations to handle this is the question.

We’ll state it again. “We rent .com’s along with everyone else in this forum”. Proofofmint.com is “proof” of this. Despite this, we understand .com’s are still rented, can still be censored and don’t have any greater utility than their 1000+ ICANN TLD relatives. It does have age though.

Your double down on “.com being king” is surely a display of your unwavering loyalty to the extension. However, history has reminded us countless times that kings can be dethroned AND kingdoms can be overthrown. This can make underestimating opponents costly.

We get it. Some investors prefer the loop of register, hoard, renew and hopefully one day sale. Never will we own. Building out websites for .com domains requires time, money and creativity many aren’t willing to “invest”. Even if holding the domain for years. That’s the oddity.

Don’t forget to hit the downvote for the world of people who share your viewpoint.