The bare faced cheek of some people

[Badger]

Stumbled across this cowboy job listing posted at scriptlance:

Project: Clone of RSS Template Site
Okay im looking to get a clone of this website http://1plus.net/advertisement.php , they allow you to enter the keyword youre domain has in it and creates a website that fits your domains needs. It compiles all the content from RSS Feeds and allow you to add your own Asense or Affiliate programs when you sign up

http://www.scriptlance.com/projects/1156354295.shtml

Project: RSS site Generator Needed
We are looking for a script were we can enter RSS feeds and it automically places them in a Template , An example of what we are looking for can be found here : http://1plus.net/advertisement.php , Please try out the demo so you can see exaclty what we want, if possible sign up and try out the system so you can get further knowledge of what we are looking for , We would also like a full out clone of this site but want it to be compadible with Japanese & Chinese RSS fees witch only means it needs to be UTF-8 compadible, PLeas Post all question on the Board we are looking to get this done asap Thanks

http://www.scriptlance.com/projects/1156449712.shtml

Some people huh...? I Seriously hope this isnt an NP Member.... Otherwise he may have just lost his "genius" status

 

[Mark]

Username: genius1
Name/Company: idnaffiliates


Sounds like an account that has been closed recently to me ....

 

[Eric]

Username: genius1
Name/Company: idnaffiliates


Sounds like an account that has been closed recently to me ....

Yep, I'd say it's thegenius1.

 

[Halobitt]

Hmmm...what is it that they say about
imitation and flattery and all that?

 

[DNWizardX9]

oh boohoo......... When people ask for a "clone" on scriptlance they're asking for something with similar features. Type "clone" to see what I mean. There is nothing wrong with what genius is doing.

 

[Badger]

oh boohoo......... When people ask for a "clone" on scriptlance they're asking for something with similar features. Type "clone" to see what I mean. There is nothing wrong with what genius is doing.

Oh sorry, you must know a different definition to the word clone that i do....

thing that duplicates, imitates, or closely resembles another in appearance, function, performance, or style

But to be honest, your signature speaks volumes as to your modus operandi and participation in this thread...

IDN subforums

 

[Eric]

oh boohoo......... When people ask for a "clone" on scriptlance they're asking for something with similar features. Type "clone" to see what I mean. There is nothing wrong with what genius is doing.

You and genius must be a couple or something. Follow him wherever he goes, and into whatever thread he's mentioned.

 

[DNWizardX9]

LOL, not quite. I was searching for "Japanese" to see if there was anything related to the topic and this popped up. Please stop relating me to genius and leave me be.

This is how alot of projects are worded.

 

[Domainate.com]

"compadible" LOL. I hope his IDN spelling isn't that bad.

 

[texasgamer]

Every successful venture has been copied and immated. This has happened since day one and through out history. Think if there were only one search engine, or hamburger joint, or web browser ect.
To imitate your idea is not bad. It is not bad to take your idea and build a better mouse trap. This is the way the world works. You in fact have taken somone elses parking idea and you are making it better.
I think the problem is with the word "clone".
The dictionary word "clone" means To make an identical copy of the orginal.
To most programmers the word "clone" means to replicate with the same functionality. They are probably not going to build an exact identical twin of your website, but I do understand your anxiety!

 

[verbster]

Wouldn't a cloned site, an exact copy, be a copyright infringement (as opposed to TM)?

 

[maroulis]

I wouldn't be offended clone is not used in the context you think IMO, on first page smbdy is asking for clone of blogger.com that to me reads as having same functionality not necessarily same design/layout....

 

[dhscott]

Clones are rarely able to compete with the originals, AFAIK, I get where you are coming from though

 

[texasgamer]

Wouldn't a cloned site, an exact copy, be a copyright infringement (as opposed to TM)?

Thats exactly right and also why most programmers are smart enough to not resort to such a thing.

Stumbled across this cowboy job listing posted at scriptlance:

Badger, there are cowboys in my family and in this neck of the woods. Good, decent, honest, hardworking people....not sure if I would agree with your choice of words here!

 

[rome2ng]

A clone may or may not be infringing on copyright.

As long as the clone has sufficient difference (new/old) features compared to the original, and trademark names, catchphrases, etc. are not used, it may escape legal reponsibilities.

This is of course rather risky.

 

[Damion]

A clone may or may not be infringing on copyright.

As long as the clone has sufficient difference (new/old) features compared to the original, and trademark names, catchphrases, etc. are not used, it may escape legal reponsibilities.

This is of course rather risky.

I know of one case where a site has been copied in it's whole design and this site is being visited by tons of people on a daily basis. The site is speurders.nl and someone in South America copied the whole design and there wasn't much they could do about it since everyone can use their colors or layout.

You can't copyright that, at least that is my understanding. What you can copyright is parts of the source code.
These things happen and there is nothing much you can do about it unfortunately.

If someone would leave out the logo and is not using the same brandname
and exact code the site would have similar looks and there is nothing much you can do about it.

Interesting subject and something i put on my To Do list to learn a bit more about this

 

[Zeeble]

I know of one case where a site has been copied in it's whole design and this site is being visited by tons of people on a daily basis. The site is speurders.nl and someone in South America copied the whole design and there wasn't much they could do about it since everyone can use their colors or layout.

You can't copyright that, at least that is my understanding. What you can copyright is parts of the source code.
These things happen and there is nothing much you can do about it unfortunately.

If someone would leave out the logo and is not using the same brandname
and exact code the site would have similar looks and there is nothing much you can do about it.

Interesting subject and something i put on my To Do list to learn a bit more about this

Actually anything that you create in terms of design, prose etc is ALL automatically protected by copyright so long as you can prove that you first created it.

 

[Damion]

Not anything since you can't claim copyright on color, in this case concerning webdesign.
I could create a domain forum as well for instance with the Namepros colors this would give the same look and feel of this forum and there is nothing one could do about this since color usage in this example is free for everyone to choose.


Unless one makes something specific in design i.e. icons, logo, text boxes with top headers and bottoms, etc then you could claim copyright.
But of course with a litle twist it's not the same anymore but it looks that way and claiming copyright is not applicable anymore.

Except for a logo where a little twist would still mean the copied logo is confusingly similar with the original.
Other then that for instance color usage/layout is not applicable for copyright.

There are far more factors to take account with but to state anything in design can be copyrighted is not true.

 

[Badger]

Badger, there are cowboys in my family and in this neck of the woods. Good, decent, honest, hardworking people....not sure if I would agree with your choice of words here!

I was, of course, referring to the informal definition of Cowboys rather than the literal...

Which I hoped everyone would have understood. Especially seeing as though Literal cowboys (the ones with hats and horses) are not generally known for website piracy...

Anyway, regarding the original post, Genius has sent me an email stating his lack of intention to produce a carbon copy of 1plus and so I guess a misunderstanding is all we have here. Of course, no-one can claim all rights to an idea and I dont have a problem with anyone producing a similar site based upon an idea. Tis only when you read about someone attempting to produce an identical copy of something ive worked hard on do I take umbrage...

Anyway, no harm done. And my two coders and I did smile when we saw the quotes to produce a cloned copy of the site - being that they basically work full time on the project and have done for 2 or 3 months...

 

[RogueWriter]

Paying for and actually implementing are two seperate issues, Badger. I doubt anyone will be approaching your level of dedication with this project.

Of course, Lotus sort of cloned Visicalc, and Excel was sort of a clone of Lotus........ all those who have used the word "Visicalc" in the last six months, raise your hand........ errr, what was I saying?!