.mobi Talk to me about the iphone

[Keith]

We know it's coming out this month. From what I can see in the pictures, the internet will look nice and clear on this baby. How does mobi stack up against this? Should there be worries about this phone becoming the trend and mobi being left by the wayside?

keithmt

 

[scandiman]

As you know this issue has been beat around quite a bit when the iPhone was first announced. But it is worth revisiting as the release gets closer. My first reaction regarding this phone is that it will increase mobile internet use. This I think is a good thing in general as that is our primary user base for .mobi sites. But it still begs the question, why would a user choose a .mobi site over a "regular" site?

I haven't touched one yet so I can't speak first hand but what the ads don't show you is the load time. Nor have I seen a .mobi site on an iPhone. I'm pretty sure I will prefer to not scroll and zoom but rather get data presented for my screen size. But what I do know is the price: $500-600. This isn't for everyone. I believe they will sell plenty of them but it will remain a niche product for quite a while. Regardless, I look forward to seeing it when it comes out.

 

[namewaiter]

We know it's coming out this month. From what I can see in the pictures, the internet will look nice and clear on this baby. How does mobi stack up against this? Should there be worries about this phone becoming the trend and mobi being left by the wayside?

keithmt

well would a new desktop or new monitor make .com less relevant?

 

[Broker]

Well, I have been doing alot of phone browsing the past week or so. and with that, watching alot of the demo's for those phones. Every single one I've seen has had a browser capable of viewing dot com websites. I have also seen a few new commercials popping up right after the new iphone commercials promoting the palm and some other phone, with similar capabilities as the iphone. So I think these companies are now going to compete to try and do one better then the iphone for a cheaper price. I have yet to see anything on t.v about .mobi and that would not help these competeing companies claiming .mobi is the way to go for mobile web browsing. The technology in these phones is capable of viewing dot com be it zoom a little or not. So imho, in due time with wide screen cell phones hitting the market as we speak and pocket pc's etc, .mobi will not be what everyone claims to be. A default extension. Someone made alot of money I believe and there will be alot of pissed off investors in the extension who didnt sell yet because of the iphone and similar phones on the market. Even the smaller screen cell phones browsers are viewing .com sites. Doesnt look good imho for .mobi fans but thats just how I see it.

 

[pcaero]

Well, I have been doing alot of phone browsing the past week or so. and with that, watching alot of the demo's for those phones. Every single one I've seen has had a browser capable of viewing dot com websites. I have also seen a few new commercials popping up right after the new iphone commercials promoting the palm and some other phone, with similar capabilities as the iphone. So I think these companies are now going to compete to try and do one better then the iphone for a cheaper price. I have yet to see anything on t.v about .mobi and that would not help these competeing companies claiming .mobi is the way to go for mobile web browsing. The technology in these phones is capable of viewing dot com be it zoom a little or not. So imho, in due time with wide screen cell phones hitting the market as we speak and pocket pc's etc, .mobi will not be what everyone claims to be. A default extension. Someone made alot of money I believe and there will be alot of pissed off investors in the extension who didnt sell yet because of the iphone and similar phones on the market. Even the smaller screen cell phones browsers are viewing .com sites. Doesnt look good imho for .mobi fans but thats just how I see it.

It is not so much about the viewing of .com or .mobi.
It's more about how's it's being delivered. Remember their is no high-speed cable connection to your cell. So until the wireless infrastructure (bandwidth)catches up, you will be waiting 5 minutes for your myspace.com or walmart.com, etc...to load on your Iphone.
The premise here is to take allot of content, and stream it down to an acceptable level for transferring over mobile platforms.

This will ultimately drive, consumers toward mobi for ease and speed.
It's mobile friendly.

And yes their are some .com sites that auto-detect mobile users.


PC

 

[Broker]

It is not so much about the viewing of .com or .mobi.
It's more about how's it's being delivered. Remember their is no high-speed cable connection to your cell. So until the wireless infrastructure (bandwidth)catches up, you will be waiting 5 minutes for your myspace.com or walmart.com, etc...to load on your Iphone.
The premise here is to take allot of content, and stream it down to an acceptable level for transferring over mobile platforms.

This will ultimately drive, consumers toward mobi for ease and speed.
It's mobile friendly.


PC

Totally disagree, I can view any website right now through my T-mobile cell phone/tower in less then 5 seconds?

 

[pcaero]

Totally disagree, I can view any website right now through my T-mobile cell phone/tower in less then 5 seconds?

Yes you may be in a wifi spot or major US city. What about the rest of the world? South America,, Africa, Asia (parts).

I just put in walmart.com into my browser and If yours loads in less than a second than I would like your phone sir..

PC

 

[nrmillions]

even full websites are not that great on an Iphone. you still have to zoom in to see the parts of the site that you want to see. phone screens are small and will be small for a very very long time. the iphone is a really good thing for .mobi since it will get more people using the web from their phones. we need more phones out there with built in wifi like the iphone.

 

[hawkeye]

Most phones today are already capable of internet browsing, but this is hampered by high cost of bandwith etc today. Let's be realistic people, I can see plans being dropped down in price by the wireless providers in the next few years to grab that waiting 'mobile internet cashwell', and mobile interneting will pick up drastically. However I don't see millions of people worldwide exchanging their current phones, and going out and buying $600, $500, or even $350 dollar 'iphone types' of phones, (and let's not forget families have more than one!) in the next 3-5 years at all!!! Those that think that this will happen and that these type of phones will be it the $100-$200 range by then, or that everyone will have an 'iphone like' phone, are wasting their time and money in the domain business! They should be researching and investing in mobile phone sales of the 'immediate' future!! By the time even 25% of mobile internet users will have those types of phone is at least 5 years away, and, by even the next 2-3 years, .mobi will be well established as a mobile address. There is a big difference in a marketing perspective on something like the mobi extension, and the technical perspective of an easier way on it. From a technical perspective, Pentium 8 is possible now! From a marketing perspective, it's too early and expensive to sell now!

 

[seanboy]

I hope that Steve Jobs makes the right decision and opens the iPhone up to 3rd party development. I would love to learn how to write a few iPhone widgets

I think the phone looks pretty cool, although it seems to be a bit over-hyped.

 

[Broker]

even full websites are not that great on an Iphone. you still have to zoom in to see the parts of the site that you want to see. phone screens are small and will be small for a very very long time. the iphone is a really good thing for .mobi since it will get more people using the web from their phones. we need more phones out there with built in wifi like the iphone.

Sorry but I think your slightly off base nrmillions. Please explain to me how bigger cell phone screens or the iphone will benefit .mobi? If anything, it makes .com and the rest easier to view. People arent going to use the iphone to access .mobi sites when apple is promoting .com on their site and in their new commercials for iphone.

As for smaller screens staying small for looong time, I highly dought that as phones like the iphone and others are popping up all over the web. Wait til the oled phone comes out.

Even so, small screens are just as capable with the right plan and browser. Here is your typical everyday cell phone used by millions.

http://www.nseries.com/index.html?C...oducts,n76,demo#l=products,n76,demo

 

[LeDomain]

Its a tough battle ahead for MOBI. We are assuming it becomes the standard for mobile phones and this is the only way its going to succeed.

Which means, the Mobile phone makers will have to say no to all the other extensions out there....not only the well established .com's but also the locally favorite country codes....That is just not going to make a business case for them....

The browsers will have to download readable content from the already popular extensions out there (over 100 million or so).....300,000 or so MOBI's is just too small of a number

 

[thebiffenator]

The Iphone will only help .mobi out IMHO. More people will be aware of the mobile internet therefore more articles ect about the mobile internet... and more .mobi stuff...an in the end more "public awareness" (and they are the ones that will use the mobile web).


My New quote

It's not the size of the screen, its how you use it!

 

[Broker]

The Iphone will only help .mobi out IMHO. More people will be aware of the mobile internet therefore more articles ect about the mobile internet... and more .mobi stuff...an in th end more public awareness (an they are the ones that will use the mobile web).


My New quote

It's not the size of the screen, its how you use it!

LOL, I really think there are some here who have smoked a little too much .mobi

Perhaps you missed the iphone commercial where it said "And this is the internet" >>>>>>> NYTimes.com

Until, wait a minute let me rephrase, "IF" any of the big boys promote .mobi on tv then you have a chance. But all I have seen so far is the promotion of mobile phones, ipods, mda's, pocket pc's etc all showing .com websites.

Theres so much confidence here in these forums for this extension but I see fear all over. I have watched countless threads of mobi names for sale with no buyers. I am also having a hard time selling small portfolios (10 names) of decent brandable .mobi domains for dirt cheap. That in itself tells me alot about what people are really thinking. Cant even get a $5.00 offer???

Could I be dead wrong? Absolutely. But right now I'm simply calling it as I see it. Technology, new phones with wide screens, iphones whatever will :imho: leave .mobi in a history book before it was ever born.

:red:

 

[thebiffenator]

LOL, I really think there are some here who have smoked a little too much .mobi

Perhaps you missed the iphone commercial where it said "And this is the internet" >>>>>>> NYTimes.com

Until, wait a minute let me rephrase, "IF" any of the big boys promote .mobi on tv then you have a chance. But all I have seen so far is the promotion of mobile phones, ipods, mda's, pocket pc's etc all showing .com websites.

Theres so much confidence here in these forums for this extension but I see fear all over. I have watched countless threads of mobi names for sale with no buyers. I am also having a hard time selling small portfolios (10 names) of decent brandable .mobi domains for dirt cheap. That in itself tells me alot about what people are really thinking. Cant even get a $5.00 offer???

Could I be dead wrong? Absolutely. But right now I'm simply calling it as I see it. Technology, new phones with wide screens, iphones whatever will :imho: leave .mobi in a history book before it was ever born.

:red:

I wish Inspector Gadjet had a pull out screen to view the internet

 

[Broker]

PullOutPc.com already registered by yours truley

 

[thebiffenator]

Hey HasRob no arrgument here but from your professional advice...What advanatages and disadvantages does .mobi have besides (.com) "and you can include it also if you want" in comparison to the other serveral extensions in a mobile world In your oppinon?

 

[nrmillions]

Sorry but I think your slightly off base nrmillions. Please explain to me how bigger cell phone screens or the iphone will benefit .mobi? If anything, it makes .com and the rest easier to view. People arent going to use the iphone to access .mobi sites when apple is promoting .com on their site and in their new commercials for iphone.

As for smaller screens staying small for looong time, I highly dought that as phones like the iphone and others are popping up all over the web. Wait til the oled phone comes out.

Even so, small screens are just as capable with the right plan and browser. Here is your typical everyday cell phone used by millions.

http://www.nseries.com/index.html?C...oducts,n76,demo#l=products,n76,demo

you are the one off base. do you actually think only current companies with a .com site will be the only ones who will exist in the future? You dont think other companies will ever come around with new startups specializing in mobile content? You actually believe that a huge ringtone company in the future that does not own ringtones.com would not want to own ringtones.mobi to sell ringtones on? .mobi and .com and all the other extensions can all exist at the same time on the mobile web. a properly funded and developed site can be a huge success no matter what the extension, look at last.fm and del.icio.us. .mobi domains are not just for companies who own a .com to have a mobile version of. its also for entirely new companies with entirely new content. One startup might use songs.com to sell mp3 songs on for cellphones and another company might use songs.mobi to also sell songs on for mobile phones. Sometimes people might be in the mood to use their phone to surf regular .com websites from their iphone and sometimes people might want to go to a mobi site. you dont think people can do both? you can see it already starting to form with companies like bank of america doing their entire mobile banking only from their .mobi site. .mobi sites can be indexed in mobile search engines just like .com sites for when people use yahoo one search or regular google or whatever. you have turned against .mobi because you were not smart enough to reg anything halfway decent that people would actually want to use on their phones and are mad nobody wants to buy your mobi names for even $5. your mobi names even in .com would be worthless. you have missed the boat on both the regular internet and the mobile internet. bad names are bad names no matter what the extension. the people who are developing their mobi sites into businesses could easily be successful whether mobi becomes mainstream or not.

 

[hedgefund]

you have turned against .mobi because you were not smart enough to reg anything halfway decent that people would actually want to use on their phones and are mad nobody wants to buy your mobi names for even $5. your mobi names even in .com would be worthless. you have missed the boat on both the regular internet and the mobile internet. bad names are bad names no matter what the extension. the people who are developing their mobi sites into businesses could easily be successful whether mobi becomes mainstream or not.

Well said. I could not agree with you more on this.

 

[seanboy]

.mobi domains are not just for companies who own a .com to have a mobile version of. its also for entirely new companies with entirely new content.

Very good point. I agree 100%