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Hello! I need some sales statistics!
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Badger said:
Why do I hear the "jaws" music playing.... ?
I was thinking more like Tetris being from Russia and all ;) LOL
 
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Maroulis-

You may be right that he deserves a ban, I'm just saying let's all make sure we know that he does NOT intend to reimburse you or Paxton for the trouble/costs he has caused BEFORE he is banned.
 
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I would seriously think about not just banning this guy but also banning his i.p. address. From the looks of things it looks like this guy has been domaining for a long time, so browser mistake and bidding by accidents arent really going to cut the mustard.

NP has its own reputation at stake here, if the guy is willing to compensate that will help matters a little, but it still would leave the members with a bad taste in their mouths. Compensating the members is not something that he is doing out of the goodness of his heart if he does it, but it is the bare minimum that he should do!

But than again thats just my 2 cents, and Im a newb myself.
 
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dna said:
I am all for banning crooks.
But it seems to me that Staskul just made a mistake.
And he does have 41 positive feedbacks.
I always check feedbacks before I do a transaction with anyone
here, as i assume we all do. So his negative feedback
will probabily be read by everyone he does a transaction with.
I don't agree with your logic. There have been plenty of members that had perfect feedback scores before they pulled a scam. Just because someone has a 100% feedback score with several positive transactions should not entitle him/her to get a Free Pass when they choose to screw someone over.

People do stupid things everyday. They make fake accounts and bid on their own domain auctions. They inflate traffic to crappy domains and sell them based on stats that are fudged. There are many, many ways people try to take shortcuts in this business. None of them should be excusable. I believe in a zero tolerance policy for people with poor business ethics. Anything else might be akin to condoning such behavior, or at the very least would only cripple the element of deterrance for other would-be scammers.

dna said:
Is there someway that Staskul could have profited from this?
I dont see it.
Depends. We don't know what he had going on behind the scenes. Was he trying to flip these domains that he decided to bid for but never paid after winning them? Maybe that was his plan. If so, yes, he got a window of arbitrage to profit - from which he has no monetary risk (outside of legal action for breaking a contract to buy).

Was he just looking for price information? In this business, information is key. Knowing what domains are worth, what others are willing to pay for domains, and at what price you can acquire a domain are very valuable pieces of information. It's a competitive industry. The biggest and baddest domainers rarely post in the discussion threads to reveal their secrets or teach all of the tricks they have. Sometimes the search for information is difficult, especially for thinly traded domain niches. There's nothing wrong with looking for data, advice, or insight from other domain owners - provided it's done in an acceptable manner. Pretending to want to buy a domain and making fake/fraudelent offers for said domain - just to get price information - is NOT an acceptable practice. How can anyone disagree with this?

If it had just been the isolated incident at eBay, maybe there is room to believe it was a mistake. But when you couple that with the fake bid at Afternic (and the posts I linked to confirming staskul's intentions) there is no doubt as to what happened.
 
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maroulis said:
I was thinking more like Tetris being from Russia and all ;) LOL

Really? Think twice LOL'er! Tell me what country you are from and I'll joke enoughf...

Mods...Looks like sentences of some members are not about current thread, but about nationality...
 
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Bravo said:
Really? Think twice LOL'er! Tell me what country you are from and I'll joke enoughf...

Mods...Looks like sentences of some members are not about current thread, but about nationality...

are you for REAL now? why don't you go to another thread and play around?
 
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TheLegendaryJP said:
Here's a link, educate yourself on what Steve was making reference to in regards to a tetris theme song being from Russia. Simply a factual statement you took for an attack based on ignorance to the facts. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/tetris.shtml

Nice find Rusty!!! ;)

still waiting to hear back, staskul is STILL not banned, and money not refunded :) everything else is great!!!
 
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As expected, staskul has not PMed me here or replied to the Escrow messages at Afternic. So now not only has he been banned at DNF, but Afternic has officially terminated his account there as well.

It's sad that he doesn't even have the decency to apologize directly for wasting my time and creating a headache.
 
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I'm on board now. Staskul has shown a complete disregard for common decency of domaining. He has been given just about every single bit of leeway to explain himself and has failed to do so. I feel he deserves to be banned.
 
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skaskul pm'd me yesterday with...

"Hi Scott! I can buy your 2 domains xnj.net and fgq.net - $950 for both is my offer"
 
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Scott said:
skaskul pm'd me yesterday with...

"Hi Scott! I can buy your 2 domains xnj.net and fgq.net - $950 for both is my offer"


Silly rabbit trix are for kids.
 
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Paxton and Maroulis,

I cant speak for the Forum Staff of NamePros but
the DNOA part concerning this matter in now in the
hands of the ethics committee.

There will be NO immediate banning of anyone from DNOA
until the due process has been completed.

I went through this thread note for note twice and all
comments and accusations have been noted and we will
begin review immediatly.

That being said, please lower the rope as there
will be no lynching without a fair hearing. :)

Any further posts to this thread should be well
thought out, totally on topic, and not random, unfounded
accusations or usless personal banter.


Please, lets not cloud the issue and make accual facts
that much harder to find.

Thank you for your cooperation.

On a personal note, Paxton and Maroulis, I feel bad
about what has happened here and please trust us
to resolve the issue in a timely manner.

Peace,
Cyberian
 
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If Stas has the $ for two LLL.net's, he hast he money to pay maroulis and paxton.
 
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peaches017 said:
If Stas has the $ for two LLL.net's, he hast he money to pay maroulis and paxton.
I'm in complete agreement with this assuming that Staskul's offer for the LLL.nets were legitimate.

May I ask if there was other non-reported conduct (on this thread) of Staskul's behavior that got him banned from DNF?
 
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This is NOT Saddam we're talking about... myself and Paxton have provided enough evidence to get him banned.. I am not fond of the delay nor the process that needs to be followed here, again it's a forum not NATO\
 
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TheLegendaryJP said:
Just curious but the ehck is he still even a member here ?

Regardles of where this took place it speaks volumes allowing such a member to be here. Off DS..off DNF..off NP's? Why the wait ?

I hadn't been following this thread, but was just told about it by ~ Cyberian ~. I am on the DNOA ethics committee, and it does seem there is a concern here. The thing to understand about DNOA is that IS a separate entity than Namepros. If soneone wants to file a complaint, they need to follow the procedure listed here:

http://www.dnoa.org/filecomplaint.php
Domain Name Owners Association

How to File a Code Complaint
If you have a complaint against a domain name seller that is a member of the Domain Name Owners Association (DNOA) for any business practice you believe is unethical or illegal and a possible violation of the DNOA Code of Ethics, we recommend the following available options.

1. Contact the seller immediately and explain the situation. If the problem is resolvable, be sure to outline the steps you would like to see taken.

2. If the association member cannot or will not correct the problem to your satisfaction, and it is an active member of the Domain Name Owners Association, you may wish to file a complaint with the DNOA Code Administrator.

To file a complaint, please send an email to mem_complaint @ dnoa.org or by fax to 1(877)846-4695

Your complaint should include the following basic information:

The date and details of the incident
The parties involved (including email addresses)
Efforts you have made to resolve the matter
List the amount and cost of the transaction, if relevant, include invoices or other supporting documents
Any responses the other parties have made to resolve the matter
The current status of the complaint
How you would like to see the complaint resolved or remedied

A DNOA administrator will do everything possible in accordance with the procedures of the Code of Ethics to resolve the problem to the satisfaction of all parties by engaging the complainant and the association member in an online dispute resolution process attended by a DNOA appointed representative.

The complainant can state information included in the forum as their evidence that a wrong has occurred, however, there are problems with deciding a case fairly in a public forum. One of these problems is that if the respondent is banned from the forum, they can't reply to the statements. Second, anything someone types into the forum could be edited so that different people see the facts differently at different times depending on what and when an edit was made. A formally filed complaint and all replies will be seen the same by everyone on the ethics committee.

I am 100% for stopping unethical behavior in the industry or I wouldn't be on the ethics committee. However, I think both sides need to be given due process to make their case without a lynch mob waiting in the wings. The facts will come out (assuming a case is formally filed), and anyone violating the ethics code to which they agreed will get what they deserve. I encourage anyone who has a problem with a DNOA member to make a formal complaint as stated. It is important to make sure those not following the code are removed. However, it's also the responsibility of DNOA to make sure that all statements are true, and that if at some time false complaint was filed, that it wasn't just acted on without proper investigation of the facts. It doesn't seem like the case here, but then again we don't want to jump to conclusions without giving each side an equal change to state their case.
 
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AdoptableDomains said:
The thing to understand about DNOA is that IS a separate entity than Namepros. If soneone wants to file a complaint, they need to follow the procedure listed here:

http://www.dnoa.org/filecomplaint.php

Are you joking me now? Ron started the DNOA as part of NamePros.. DNOA is only available through NamePros so politics and BS aside and trying to make DNOA an industry venue/org let's get back to business...

I'm DNOA founding member also when Ron started this, there are apparent reasons why I've not been involved actively in the committee (mention lag times to begin with, meetings being postponed for couple of months and the list goes on)...

Now, I'm ALL for transparency and will hunt down all scammers, with or without your help. I'll make sure that StasKul doesn't do any business in any other forum (which is the case)..

I'm also a member here, DNOA, DNF and TRAFFIC member does that mean I have to file X complaints? The guy is banned at DNF, banned at DS and is an ACTIVE member at NamePros.. If you can't ban him for whatever reason I for one will never visit NamePros.. Ron should be pulled into this, your response can be described as PC BS at best!

Feel sorry for NPs and DNOA having this "game" going back and forth for the past 30 days with NO RESOLUTION / and if you think that myself/JP and Paxton are part of a lynch mob or a conspiracy to defame him then I'm lost for words...

Keep up the good work!!
 
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AdoptableDomains said:
I hadn't been following this thread, but was just told about it by ~ Cyberian ~. I am on the DNOA ethics committee, and it does seem there is a concern here. The thing to understand about DNOA is that IS a separate entity than Namepros. If soneone wants to file a complaint, they need to follow the procedure listed here:

http://www.dnoa.org/filecomplaint.php


The complainant can state information included in the forum as their evidence that a wrong has occurred, however, there are problems with deciding a case fairly in a public forum. One of these problems is that if the respondent is banned from the forum, they can't reply to the statements. Second, anything someone types into the forum could be edited so that different people see the facts differently at different times depending on what and when an edit was made. A formally filed complaint and all replies will be seen the same by everyone on the ethics committee.

I am 100% for stopping unethical behavior in the industry or I wouldn't be on the ethics committee. However, I think both sides need to be given due process to make their case without a lynch mob waiting in the wings. The facts will come out (assuming a case is formally filed), and anyone violating the ethics code to which they agreed will get what they deserve. I encourage anyone who has a problem with a DNOA member to make a formal complaint as stated. It is important to make sure those not following the code are removed. However, it's also the responsibility of DNOA to make sure that all statements are true, and that if at some time false complaint was filed, that it wasn't just acted on without proper investigation of the facts. It doesn't seem like the case here, but then again we don't want to jump to conclusions without giving each side an equal change to state their case.
A formal complaint has been filed. And I'm happy to report that it appears that the ethics committee has followed up and is investigating the report.

I understand DNOA and NP are separate entities, and I also understand that in regards to NP and this matter that ultimately it's RJ who is the judge and jury. By this time I would like to think that RJ has heard about this thread (either as being a vigilant admin, or via the links which reference this thread in the official DNOA complaint that he should have seen). With that being said, I hope that NP takes the right steps to protect the community from fraudulent domainers and sends a message that unethical business transactions are not tolerated - on or off the forums.

As for the transaction, it is dead. The domain is not for sale to him at this point. To accept payment now would be asking for even more trouble. Regardless, I would not expect staskul to step up to the plate now and honor his contract. To me it's not about the money. It was never about the money. It's the principle of dealing with yet another shady individual who has wasted my time and has abused the system.
 
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Don't misunderstand, staskul's NamePros account status has been in jeopardy since this thread has started. He's already received a negative feedback from maroulis. Paxton, I'll suggest again that you do the same so that there is a more permanent record of your complaint.

His DNOA membership is in the hands of the committee repsonsible for making a decision there. I trust their judgement on the matter. We don't have a formal policy on this, but I couldn't fathom anyone being kicked out of DNOA remaing a member of NamePros.

Please take into consideration that Stas has been a good member at NP for around a year and a half, and until last month no one had anything bad to say about him. His trader history was perfect with dozens of positive transactions.

Both of these situations to me seem more like poor judgement than a malicious attempt at scamming anyone, so I felt it was only fair to afford him the time and opportunity to rectifty things. However it is becoming clear that he does not intend to, so I'm not left with much other choice than to close his account.
 
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Thank you, RJ. I have acted upon your suggestion and have left a negative feedback rating here at NP.
 
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