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Spaceship.com recently launched a new Marketplace section, and as NamePros has given me the go-head, I think the company deserves its own thread for NP domain marketplace users to converse in.

https://www.spaceship.com/sellerhub/

Personally speaking, I will be setting up a new Spaceship.com account this weekend and going to work investigating its various features, options and policies.
 
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@Spaceship

I paid for a domain at your platform,
you could not deliver the domain and cancel the transaction.

and now you said I

Attempt to circumvent the Platform’s fees or processes.
I would guess that by doing the same thing a few times, they thought that you are contacting the sellers after the agreement it's reached, and the sellers are saying that they don't own it anymore, so that they don't pay any fees. Again, a guess.
 
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I would guess that by doing the same thing a few times, they thought that you are contacting the sellers after the agreement it's reached, and the sellers are saying that they don't own it anymore, so that they don't pay any fees. Again, a guess.
Your guess is right.
But I have already sent the support the screenshots that I bought the domains related from Dropcatch.
they just did not care.
 
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Your guess is right.
But I have already sent the support the screenshots that I bought the domains related from Dropcatch.
they just did not care.
Yes, at that point probably they feelt offended, because knowingly that it's not possible to finalize it, you waisted their time. They should have just accepted that you were trying to make a point and they should have tried to fix the issues, but we are humans and we are easily offended...hopefully, after an explanation, they will come to their senses, but they already said that the decision is final, so it will be hard for them to accept this.
 
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In case of any sale partial withdrawal allowed? and can the rest be used for renewals / transfers / registrations?

Has anyone used that way and is it all smooth?
 
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In case of any sale partial withdrawal allowed? and can the rest be used for renewals / transfers / registrations?

Has anyone used that way and is it all smooth?
Yes, you can withdraw only part of your payout and keep the rest in your account balance to use for renewals, transfers, or registrations.
 
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Yes, you can withdraw only part of your payout and keep the rest in your account balance to use for renewals, transfers, or registrations.

and for marketplace purchases :xf.smile:
 
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Yes, you can withdraw only part of your payout and keep the rest in your account balance to use for renewals, transfers, or registrations.
That sounds good. Thanks for the confirmation!
 
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Mandatory or optional upfront deposit:

Tired of spam offers for your listed domains that waste your time? The Spaceship team just released "Quality Offers" that requires a non refundable deposit to contact you and start negotiations. 🚀

 
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Yes, you can withdraw only part of your payout and keep the rest in your account balance to use for renewals, transfers, or registrations.
Is it correct that for ACH/Bank Transfer/Wire there is no option to initiate this online for buyers? Are you adding this functionality?
 
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Is there some A/B testing going on (dollar signs)?

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Is it correct that for ACH/Bank Transfer/Wire there is no option to initiate this online for buyers? Are you adding this functionality?
It's possible to initiate the process via chat with our team. We've seen requests for a more automated flow and are passing them to the team for consideration.
 
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We're not. This account matter has already been addressed by email, and any further communication must continue there.
You asked me to contact you via email.
Yes.
I did.

I sent you 5 emails.
your support repeatedly said.



there are multiple instances of violations of our Marketplace agreement...



please clarify here,



by using the word instances,

do you mean what?



just bought 3 domains from spaceship.com?


Besides these,
Please tell us what else I have done on your website?

So,
Buying domains at spaceship.com is an violation of your Marketplace agreement?

You suspected I have bought domains directly from the sellers to avoid your fee,
Which turned out to be not the truth after I sent you the order conformation emails from dropcatch.

Now you would not admit your mistake and insist using false suspection to ban me?
 

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Buying domains at spaceship.com is an violation of your Marketplace agreement?

After reading your posts, I think I understand what happened.

1. You bought some domains from DropCatch
2. You tried to add them to your Spaceship account
3. Spaceship's verification process failed preventing you from listing the domains
4. You found the current listings for the domains via Spaceship and bought them via Spaceship

So, you knew that the domains could not be delivered by the person who had previously listed them (because you already own them) but you bought them anyway.

What's funny is, as I was writing this post out, I realised, this sounds a lot like the scam someone has been trying to run on me. I'm not a dumbass so I didn't fall for it but maybe it's you? I'd even considered writing a post about it just in case other people would be interested to learn about it.

The scam is quite simple:

1. An investor (victim) owns a domain name and has it listed with Spaceship
2. The victim allows the domain name to expire
3. The domain goes to auction and a scammer purchases the domain name
4. The scammer lists the domain name with GoDaddy or Sedo or ... with a Buy It Now price less than the previous listing
5. The scammer purchases the domain via the victim's old Spaceship listing
6. The victim now feels they have an arbitrage opportunity, they can buy back their domain from the new owner and sell it to the scammer for profit

e.g:

1. I own example.com and have it listed with Spaceship for sale at $12k
2. I let example.com expire
3. The scammer buys example.com at auction
4. The scammer lists the domain for sale at GoDaddy for $2,500 Buy It Now
5. The scammer goes to Spaceship and buys the domain for $12k

At this point, the victim receives an email that they have sold a domain for for $12k! Yay! And then, oh no, they realise that the domain has expired and left the redemption period. But, they're in luck! The new owner has listed it for sale for $2,500 via GoDaddy. Sure, $2,500 is a lot more than it is worth but a lot less than $12,000! And so the victim buys back their own domain to sell to the scammer for $12k... and then the scammers payment to Spaceship fails, leaving the victim with a $2,500 domain they bought via GoDaddy.

(A variant of the scam involves lease-to-own, i.e: if the old Spaceship listing has an LTO option, the scammer can buy the domain by paying for one month and let the payment succeed so long as their Buy It Now price via GoDaddy is less than the one month LTO price.)

Now, I wouldn't accuse you personally of doing this to me, heaven forbid, but I have 3 failed Spaceship purchases for the same domain from the same person on June 29th trying to run this scam. Fortunately for me, I'm a cynic who always wants to understand why something is happening, and it didn't pass the sniff test that suddenly someone would want to buy the domain from me the day after I no longer had access to it. Remember the mantra, you can't con an honest man. The registrar was GoDaddy not DropCatch so the facts don't match exactly... maybe you're just one of many running the scam.

Regardless of whether you are my scammer or not, I'm glad Spaceship bans people who buy listings they know cannot be delivered. Obviously it is nefarious behaviour and the TXT verification excuse is hilariously bad.

Thanks Spaceship, I appreciate you.

edit: haha, wait, I think it might actually be you. Your name is Jack and you're Chinese. My buyer was Jack and Chinese. I guess it makes sense that you'd be doing it to other people too, hence the DropCatch discrepancy. Small world, nice to see you here.
 
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After reading your posts, I think I understand what happened.

1. You bought some domains from DropCatch
2. You tried to add them to your Spaceship account
3. Spaceship's verification process failed preventing you from listing the domains
4. You found the current listings for the domains via Spaceship and bought them via Spaceship

So, you knew that the domains could not be delivered by the person who had previously listed them (because you already own them) but you bought them anyway.

What's funny is, as I was writing this post out, I realised, this sounds a lot like the scam someone has been trying to run on me. I'm not a dumbass so I didn't fall for it but maybe it's you? I'd even considered writing a post about it just in case other people would be interested to learn about it.

The scam is quite simple:

1. An investor (victim) owns a domain name and has it listed with Spaceship
2. The victim allows the domain name to expire
3. The domain goes to auction and a scammer purchases the domain name
4. The scammer lists the domain name with GoDaddy or Sedo or ... with a Buy It Now price less than the previous listing
5. The scammer purchases the domain via the victim's old Spaceship listing
6. The victim now feels they have an arbitrage opportunity, they can buy back their domain from the new owner and sell it to the scammer for profit

e.g:

1. I own example.com and have it listed with Spaceship for sale at $12k
2. I let example.com expire
3. The scammer buys example.com at auction
4. The scammer lists the domain for sale at GoDaddy for $2,500 Buy It Now
5. The scammer goes to Spaceship and buys the domain for $12k

At this point, the victim receives an email that they have sold a domain for for $12k! Yay! And then, oh no, they realise that the domain has expired and left the redemption period. But, they're in luck! The new owner has listed it for sale for $2,500 via GoDaddy. Sure, $2,500 is a lot more than it is worth but a lot less than $12,000! And so the victim buys back their own domain to sell to the scammer for $12k... and then the scammers payment to Spaceship fails, leaving the victim with a $2,500 domain they bought via GoDaddy.

(A variant of the scam involves lease-to-own, i.e: if the old Spaceship listing has an LTO option, the scammer can buy the domain by paying for one month and let the payment succeed so long as their Buy It Now price via GoDaddy is less than the one month LTO price.)

Now, I wouldn't accuse you personally of doing this to me, heaven forbid, but I have 3 failed Spaceship purchases for the same domain from the same person on June 29th trying to run this scam. Fortunately for me, I'm a cynic who always wants to understand why something is happening, and it didn't pass the sniff test that suddenly someone would want to buy the domain from me the day after I no longer had access to it. Remember the mantra, you can't con an honest man. The registrar was GoDaddy not DropCatch so the facts don't match exactly... maybe you're just one of many running the scam.

Regardless of whether you are my scammer or not, I'm glad Spaceship bans people who buy listings they know cannot be delivered. Obviously it is nefarious behaviour and the TXT verification excuse is hilariously bad.

Thanks Spaceship, I appreciate you.

edit: haha, wait, I think it might actually be you. Your name is Jack and you're Chinese. My buyer was Jack and Chinese. I guess it makes sense that you'd be doing it to other people too, hence the DropCatch discrepancy. Small world, nice to see you here.
I sometimes find myself in your place, forgetting to delete some expired domains and a few times it happened for a domain to sell and I could not been able to delivered it It was my mistake, I apologized and they understood. In the same time, I own domains, some even for 4-5 years which are listed for sale at sone marketplaces by ex owners who don't own them anymore. So, if some of them will sell, the transaction will be canceled, the buyer will not trust marketplaces and the marketplaces and even me, the actual owner will loose. About txt verification, sometimes failes, afternic doesn't care, sedo can do a manual check if you contact them, spaceship I don't know. In conclusion, we, as the ex owners, have more responsability than the new owners, who frustrated, try to force a transaction, to prove that the listed domain it's not accurate.
 
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@fka1080405

I do not know if you are one of them.

But there are some bad guys bulk add pending deleting or hot expired sn/nj/gd/dn domains with bids to Afternic,

or send spam emails to who owns similar domains,

try to sell domains before they own them.

Which I think is Illegal.


@Spaceship

Please double check if there are such bad actors on your platform too.
 
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When my domains are expiring,
I will delete them from all markets,
because I do not want to cause trouble to new owners,
and i think it is immoral to sell stuff you do not own.

If I do cause trouble to the new owner,
I do not blame him or her but say sorry .
 
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