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So you're a domainer, eh? Prove it. (Opinion piece)

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So you're a domainer, eh? Prove it.

This seems to be the sentiment some folks lead with in the NamePros forum and a few other "accessible" domainer circles. Looking in the domain industry's rearview, we can see the 90s have come and gone. Some notable sales have been made; but the space seems to be a shell of itself. Every now and then there's a trend that gets certain domainers talking, making money and on their way. A majority of domainers though are holding out hope they'll be among the lucky ones that'll get a sale this month - maybe even next month.

Here's the reality: It's not just new domainers that are hoping for sales. It's folks who've been around for some time too. Most won't say it; but the critique of certain "successful" domainers doesn't necessarily make it the coolest thing to do. Before anyone comes with their favorite line about "buying quality domains", let us not forget the space hasn't innovated enough to support substantial growth opportunities. So while quality names are one part, lethargic evolution of the space is another.

For the sake of full transparency, I - along with some partners - fall within the category of folks who've been privileged to have some decent sales. They haven't been mega sales - but enough to say we can pick, hold, develop and move em if the market and the universe's favor permits. Nothing too flashy. We like to joke that we sit at the intersection of what domaining was and could become. More than anything, we value people, love language and believe the domain space hasn't scratched the surface of its potential.

With all of this stated, I'd simply like to petition those who care about the domain space, and not just the money, to rethink how WE advise folks who are new to the space and even those who've been here for a while. There's nothing like being blessed to make money in a rather low-key and unregulated sector. This allows more room to strengthen the domainer community as a whole without the divisiveness and superiority complexes some folks SEEM to have. Yes, there's money to be made, but there's PEOPLE to be uplifted.

And because the peanut gallery always needs addressing, here's the sharper end of the blade:

Nobody is saying coddle and lie to folks. I'm merely saying lift your foot off the criticism-gas and remember domain sales don't guarantee YOU have REAL respect, morals, dignity or class. They don't mean you're worthy of being loved or that life will provide you with an abundance of anything that really matters - peace, joy and balance. Say what you want; but remember there's a batch of folks who move in silence. They know it's best to stay in the shadows, make sales and let folks speculate about who's really doing what. Every now and then, they step out to say there's room to do better. That's exactly what THIS thread is intended to signal.

Let us do right by one another and move the space forward. After all, it's well overdue.
 
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Poor picks turn a domain investor into a rare hybrid: endโ€‘user and bag holder.
 
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I'd have to respectfully disagree.

Domains can be registered in other languages with special characters and many domainers don't care to acknowledge it openly. These IDNs (Internationalized Domain Names) are often dismissed as less valuable or non-existent.

Year 2000 IDN .com & .net (many reg. / invest incl. me & burn the money)
... it took 10 years for ICANN to implement in the DNS
... 20 years after ... to start promoting idn ... well... spending $ more like chicken w/o head

At the second level, there were 1.467 million IDN registrations2 across all gTLDs as of March 2024. This is a decline of 3.36% from the previously reported number at the end of 2022 (1.52 million). IDN registrations were highest in the Chinese script (48.74%) followed by the Latin script (27.47%).

2024 report | 2022 report

Always DD ... many read NPs and uninformed brains can jump in and burn the money.

Kind regards
 
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Poor picks turn a domain investor into a rare hybrid: endโ€‘user and bag holder.
Are you saying language domains are poor picks? Just want to be clear here for diversity's sake.
 
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Poor picks turn a domain investor into a rare hybrid: endโ€‘user and bag holder.
Or the classic, wannabe developer. Just waiting to develop those 1000 domains...one day.

Brad
 
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What are language domains?
 
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Year 2000 IDN .com & .net (many reg. / invest incl. me & burn the money)
... it took 10 years for ICANN to implemented in the DNS
... 20 years after ... to start promoting idn ... well... spending $ more like chicken w/o head



Always DD ... many read NPs and uninformed brains can jump in and burn the money.

Kind regards
Per the stats you provided, Chinese and Latin language speakers (respectively) might have it figured out. :xf.wink:
 
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Per the stats you provided, Chinese and Latin language speakers (respectively) might have it figured out. :xf.wink:

... figured out what exactly? DYOR / DD .... Latin 0.8% in use & CN 2.1% redirect mostly vs reg numbers
 
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Or the classic, wannabe developer. Just waiting to develop those 1000 domains...one day.

Brad
There's no need to develop anything where forwarding is concerned. If a company's website is in Spanish, they could easily make a Spanish domain their primary address and use the English counterpart as a forward. It's no different than someone from another country who resides in the US waving two flags. Pride isn't always singular.
 
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... figured out what exactly? DYOR / DD .... Latin 0.8% in use & CN 2.1% redirect mostly vs reg numbers
"In 2024......IDN registrations were highest in the Chinese script (48.74%) followed by the Latin script (27.47%)."

"Having it figured out" was a nod to those who see value in IDNs. That's all.
 
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"In 2024......IDN registrations were highest in the Chinese script (48.74%) followed by the Latin script (27.47%)."

"Having it figured out" was a nod to those who see value in IDNs. That's all.

You'll need to expand the knowledge base. "The computer keyboard and the lang letters on it ... For 2 decades, didnโ€™t pay off for computer and keyboard producers.. so they left "mainstream" effort and tagged the keys as "specific"
 
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You'll need to expand the knowledge base. "The computer keyboard and the lang letters on it ... For 2 decades, didnโ€™t pay off for computer and keyboard producers.. so they left "mainstream" effort and tagged the keys as "specific"
Thanks for the news flash. I was aware though. I also recognize folks are copying and pasting special characters directly from the internet instead of typing them too.
 
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There's no need to develop anything where forwarding is concerned. If a company's website is in Spanish, they could easily make a Spanish domain their primary address and use the English counterpart as a forward. It's no different than someone from another country who resides in the US waving two flags. Pride isn't always singular.
So youโ€™re suggesting acquiring domain names in two languages for a single website? I thought your entire point โ€” the rallying cry โ€” was that a foreign language domain name should hold equal value to an English one, all in the name of diversity.
 
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I was wondering when DEI would make it into the domain world... right when the rest of the world left it behind :ROFL:
 
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So youโ€™re suggesting acquiring domain names in two languages for a single website? I thought your entire point โ€” the rallying cry โ€” was that a foreign language domain name should hold equal value to an English one, all in the name of diversity.
๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ.......I was simply pointing out a person/business could easily leverage both styles of naming - without dismissing or undermining either.
 
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Missing end-user adoption is the result of key players prioritizing this over that. The space is full of folks who would tell you jalapeno.com and jalapeรฑo.com are two very different names with two very different values. One has been registered since the 90s (Go figure) while the other remains unregistered. Can we guess why? Not because they have different character counts or extensions. It's because of the "รฑ" - which a Spanish character and culturally relevant. There are A LOT of Spanish-speaking people and companies that use it, write it and text it. Heck, Spanish is a widely spoken language globally. Yet, authentic Spanish domains aren't a thing. But I digress.
Jalapeรฑo.com has been registered since 7/19/2003.

So, for more than 20 years itself.

The problem is hardly any keyboards have the ability to type it out.

The actual typeable domain is far less appealing -
XN--JALAPEO-9ZA.COM

Brad
 
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๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ.......I was simply pointing out a person/business could easily leverage both styles of naming - without dismissing or undermining either.
Yep, no one is stopping domain investors from investing in them or end users from developing them.

It's a free market.

In that sense, the free market has spoken. There is not much interest.

Who knows, maybe one day they will take off. They haven't yet.

Brad
 
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Jalapeรฑo.com has been registered since 7/19/2003.

So, for more than 20 years itself.

The problem is hardly any keyboards have the ability to type it out.

The actual typeable domain is far less appealing -
XN--JALAPEO-9ZA.COM

Brad
@bmugford I see your point but it ain't the 90s/00s. MOST, if not all, mobile keyboards can type "รฑ". The rate at which people text and post to social media in Spanish is considerable.

As for the "actual typing" being less attractive, both Jalapeรฑo.com AND XN--JALAPEO-9ZA.COM are the actual typing - which makes the domain a 2 in 1 if you care to see it that way. You can literally type either name.

With respect to how IDNs showcase in the address bar, that's a byproduct of how the browser company CHOOSES to display IDNs. It's not a side effect of the name itself. The same applies to emoji. They're the mobile juggernauts!
 
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