So I visited a developed .cc website...

[Archangel]

A friend of mine sent me a URL via Yahoo messenger. Naturally, I clicked on it. Lo & behold, I was there, at http://www.cdcovers.cc And... wait, kids... look at the extension. I JUST VISITED A DEVELOPED .CC SITE for what I can recall, the first time in my life. And she told me that this site was #1 on GOOGLE with the keyphrase 'cd covers.' Ya don't believe me? Look yourself: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cd+covers&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10 So here is my question: How in the f*** did a .cc get to #1 on Google for a phrase that has over 2.5 MILLION results? I'm shocked enough to be seeing a developed .cc site. The #1-on-Google thing was just plain freaky.

Edit: And somehow, it's #1 on Google for 'dvd covers' too. How can this be? Where is the logic? .cc isn't in any way powerful... so what gives?

 

[chandan]

there are lot other tld sites came at #1 for diff searches

whats the big issue if u see .cc at first position

 

[Archangel]

there are lot other tld sites came at #1 for diff searches

whats the big issue if u see .cc at first position

That's true, of course. The "big issue" is simply that it's a .cc, a terrible extension that just about every professional can vouch is very undesireable. Just the fact that I visited a developed .cc is a shock (don't bother telling me of dozens of .cc sites you know of. For every .cc there might be 3-5-20 or whatever .org or .info). How it ranks at #1 for a term that has a few million search results is more so of the issue.

I was talking to my aforementioned friend, who's a pirate. She told me the following, which makes sense:

Sarah F: my theory is some dude came along that wanted to develop a cover site
Sarah F: well some asshole already took the cd cover .com stuff and wouldn't resell it for a reasonable amount cause they thought they were going to get more out of it
Sarah F: so the dude registered .cc and developed it and .com hasn't been developed yet
Sarah F: another thing, i believe it is illegal
Sarah F: correct me if I'm wrong, but having the .com would bring attention to the illegal activities wouldn't it?
Sarah F: xtremewrestlingtorrents, pwtorrents and piratebay all have .net/.org

She is not a domainer but as she points out:

Sarah F: I'm a pirate at heart
Sarah F: I got lots of illegal logics about the downloading/ripping off world

But she goes on:

Sarah F: not if they get bombed with a big fat law suit
Sarah F: might be a guy that wanted to lay low, isn't .cc just as good if it develops and gets lots of traffic?

Sarah F: thing is too, cdcovers.cc
Sarah F: initals CC
Sarah F: cd covers


I've checked the .com & .net. Neither are developed. She was dead-on about a lotta things here. The point I was trying to raise is that the wimpy, no-need-to-even-exist .cc lanced #1 on Google for a keyphrase with a few million results. I can see why and how it got to #1 now, from my friend's logic (she's a college girl, smart as hell) . I cannot, however, supress the laugh I have thinking that the sucky .cc landed #1 on Google. Comes to show ya that as long as you have a stragedy, you can make .cc rank well.

 

[copper]

According to archive.org, cdcovers.cc had site on it since year 2000.
Tons of backlinks.
DMOZ listed
Yahoo Directory listed
PR3
Active Forums
Exact keywords within domain name itself.

And must be heavily SEO Optimized as well.

So, I don't see why you are surprised

 

[Archangel]

According to archive.org, cdcovers.cc had site on it since year 2000.
Tons of backlinks.
DMOZ listed
Yahoo Directory listed
PR3
Active Forums
Exact keywords within domain name itself.

And must be heavily SEO Optimized as well.

So, I don't see why you are surprised

You've done a bit more research than I had. From the domain's age and the fact that the .com isn't developed, that alone would have given a similar domain a fighting chance to get #1. It was a surprise seeing that it was a .cc. I guess .cc's CAN be of worth, after all.

 

[raphnix]

You can also see for an example some free blog hosted sites like from blogger and wordpress. If the owner of the blog is that good in optimizing his/her blog, you shouldn't wonder why most blogspot beat the self hosted ones.

 

[Kate]

cdcovers.cc must be the only .cc I'm familiar with (haven't visited for ages though).
This one has been around for many years.

 

[.NEET]

.com IS the horrible extension, unfortunately it was the first one so we're stuck with it.

And I'm sure there are a lots of developed .cc... here it took me 3 seconds to think of 3 of them:

bloglove.cc
twi.cc
fantasti.cc

 

[Fka200]

There are some big .cc out there, like mentioned above. It shouldn't be a surprise that a ".cc ranks #1"... you can do that with ANY TLD. If you're looking for search engine traffic, any TLD can rank. Some ccTLDs will gain ranking in respected Google local sites, so that's something to remember, also... but in general, you can get any TLD to #1.

 

[zoogo]

There are some big .cc out there, like mentioned above. It shouldn't be a surprise that a ".cc ranks #1"... you can do that with ANY TLD. If you're looking for search engine traffic, any TLD can rank. Some ccTLDs will gain ranking in respected Google local sites, so that's something to remember, also... but in general, you can get any TLD to #1.

Exactly. I dunno what all the hubbub is about. Its just letters, man.

 

[MattheP]

Edit: And somehow, it's #1 on Google for 'dvd covers' too. How can this be? Where is the logic? .cc isn't in any way powerful... so what gives?

Simply - it's the best cd&dvd covers site (biggest archive) with good supporting forum. Extension has nothing with that

PS - I offered them my dvdcovers dot TV, but they were not interested

 

[RTM]

Goes to show that the old adage stating that, at the end of the day, content is ... indeed ... king!

Rob

 

[Don]

I'm never surprised when I see a random ext/cctld, or even a made up brandable domain, atop the google serps...

Especially when the .com is owned by some clueless bloke who thinks that parking or tossing up some half-assed minisite is a reasonable way to take advantage of owning the .com.

If you were to take a look at the list of 6 figure + .com domain sales and google each one of the phrases - you'd probably see that a good percentage are outranked by completely random domains/exts, many of which don't even include the keywords at all.

A great .com, with equal development, will likely outrank that random .ext every time. But a great .com with sh*t development, doesn't stand a chance in the serps.

Thank god for domainers - they give everyone else the opportunity to make the real money - for a few bucks and change.

 

[Archangel]

Goes to show that the old adage stating that, at the end of the day, content is ... indeed ... king!

Rob

This is true as can be. It was like, matbe 1-2am when I made this thread. Now that I'm awake with a lotta coffee, this doesn't seem as surprising to me as it did when I first posted. But I've never really viited a developed .cc (to my recollection) and seeing this as #1 on Google freaked me out. I don't know about the rest of you (those who've posted in this thread) but I've been here for 5 or so so years & have read many threads about how lowly & unusable .cc seems to be. So seeing a .cc rank so well threw me into a loop. I still won't invest in them but I have a bit more respect for the extension.

 

[mwzd]

The point I was trying to raise is that the wimpy, no-need-to-even-exist .cc lanced #1 on Google for a keyphrase with a few million results.

Actually i've been saying this for a bit.

A developed top level keyword in a crappy will outperform both, the same keyword in a 'better' tld that is parked, or a crappy keyword in a 'better' tld that is developed.

Just goes to show you why I'm an extension agnostic (see my blog for more) :D

 

[owntype]

Wretch.cc, Alexa Top 100 site.

Not every internet user is domainer.

(But I assume every .cc webmaster wants .com for sure)

 

[MattheP]

So seeing a .cc rank so well threw me into a loop. I still won't invest in them but I have a bit more respect for the extension.

As I said before in this thread,high ranking of this site (Alexa: 2889) is due to its content, not extension. Probably it would be the same if it was .cx, ws, or whatever, and of course, .com would boost the traffic a little bit higher.

 

[copper]

Wretch.cc, Alexa Top 100 site.

Not every internet user is domainer.

(But I assume every .cc webmaster wants .com for sure)

If I own one of Alexa top 100 sites in .cc or any other extensions,
I wouldn't care about .com

After all, what is domain exactly?
It's nothing more than address for the web site and Alexa top 100 sites
are already known address. So, why should I care unless I can have
.com for just few thousand dollars?

 

[Archangel]

If I own one of Alexa top 100 sites in .cc or any other extensions,
I wouldn't care about .com

After all, what is domain exactly?
It's nothing more than address for the web site and Alexa top 100 sites
are already known address. So, why should I care unless I can have
.com for just few thousand dollars?

The extension wouldn't matter much if the site was an Alexa top 100 site. The extension would only hurt type-in traffic. (It'd be kinda hard to type in, say, computers.cx if you weren't aware that .cx even existed). But if ya have a site ranked that high, no care should really go into the extension since ppl have found the site SOMEHOW, right? SE's, type-in, whatever. Of course, getting the .com should be a priority so you won't risk losing traffic to it

---------- Post added at 07:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:56 PM ----------

As I said before in this thread,high ranking of this site (Alexa: 2889) is due to its content, not extension. Probably it would be the same if it was .cx, ws, or whatever, and of course, .com would boost the traffic a little bit higher.

Yes, so why did you bother restating it? lol It was heard loud & clear the first time you said it.

 

[Michael]

Guess you've never used Daemon Tools... that's on a hyphenated .cc, lol. Really though, as Samit mentioned, search engines don't discriminate against the extension as much as you would think. There are some that are a haven for spammers because of the cost (such as .info), and it is a little harder to earn the search engine's trust, but otherwise it's all about the effort you put into making a quality site and your SEO abilities. I'd take a really strong keyword in a crap extension over mediocre keywords in .com any day (if I'm developing).