Snapnames question

[serverfm]

I have the impression that snapnames sometimes tries to catch domains even when there are no snaps on them in the hope to resell them later or for whatever reason.

Do you think that this is happening?

If so, do you know how do you can buy such names from them?

 

[HeyNow]

No, you just like throwing allegations around.

You're a real piece of work, sir, and misrepresent my statements. I've never once alleged that others at Snapnames were complicit. Without proof, no one can positively assert who else was involved. You cannot point one of my posts where I positively assert that anyone else at Snapnames knew what was going on or participated in the fraud. My posts have always expressed my opinion that one would have to be brain dead to believe that one VP employee single-handedly committed thousands of crimes involving millions of dollars without anyone else there knowing about it. My opinion has always been that the story floated by Snapnames's flies in the face of logic. To me, the fact that no one was prosecuted tells me that others there are afraid they'll end up in jail with that one, lone employee.

A civil lawsuit against the one lone employee means, to me, that after a judgement against and subsequent bankruptcy by the one lone employee, all will go about their business as usual, and the full extent of the fraud and true, full restitution to customers will never be forthcoming. That's my opinion, not a positive assertion.

Go buy a dictionary, you need it.

 

[Kate]

I've never once alleged that others at Snapnames were complicit. Without proof, no one can positively assert who else was involved. You cannot point one of my posts where I positively assert that anyone else at Snapnames knew what was going on or participated in the fraud.

Yet that is exactly what your posts are suggesting.

My posts have always expressed my opinion that one would have to be brain dead to believe that one VP employee single-handedly committed thousands of crimes involving millions of dollars without anyone else there knowing about it.

Aren't these two statements contradictory ?

What is that "anyone else" ? Who can it be and where ?

 

[HeyNow]

Yet that is exactly what your posts are suggesting.

Aren't these two statements contradictory ?

What is that "anyone else" ? Who can it be and where ?

No, those two statements are not contradictory. Only when a thorough criminal investigation is completed can any individual state as fact who is and how many are culpable in crime. Until then, we are left to our own opinions, based on common sense, experience, and logic. My opinion is that we will never see a criminal investigation into the Snapnames shill-bidding/auction fraud scandal. My opinion is that if all others within Snapnames were not complicit, we probably would see a criminal investigation. In other words, someone would have called the cops because someone stole millions of dollars from Snapnames customers. I consider auction fraud and shill-bidding theft. Do you? I believe we were told the results of the Snapnames investigation. Haha! To me, that's like the fox who's guarding the hen-house telling us where all the chickens went!

Suggesting a possibility exists and that I personally believe in a possibility is not the same as stating that a possibility is indeed fact.

I can't believe I have to explain these very clear differences to adults. I thinks I'm dealing with adults, here, right?

 

[Kate]

My opinion is that if all others within Snapnames were not complicit, we probably would see a criminal investigation. In other words, someone would have called the cops because someone stole millions of dollars from Snapnames customers.

You seem to be the one having comprehension problems.

SnapNames has 21 Portland employees. It fired Brady last year and sued him in May, seeking as much as $33 million in damages and penalties. The company itself was sued by class-action attorneys seeking damages for SnapNames customers.

Oversee said in May that it had referred the case to federal authorities, who have not returned calls seeking comment on their plans for the case. Donohue said he’s not aware of any outside investigation.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/siliconforest/2010/10/snapnames_settles_lawsuit_agai.html

Now I'm leaving you in your sandbox, have fun throwing insinuations as I know you'd rather go on with your diatribe than admit you are twisting the story a little bit along your own personal blinders and prejudices :zzz:

 

[HeyNow]

You seem to be the one having comprehension problems.





http://blog.oregonlive.com/siliconforest/2010/10/snapnames_settles_lawsuit_agai.html

Now I'm leaving you in your sandbox, have fun throwing insinuations as I know you'd rather go on with your diatribe than admit you are twisting the story a little bit along your own personal blinders and prejudices :zzz:

Thank you for leaving me alone now. I never asked for your silly 2 cents in the first place.

 

[JB Lions]

"I've never once alleged that others at Snapnames were complicit."

"Because Snapnames perpetrated auction fraud in hundreds or thousands of auctions over a period of years."

Do you have difficulty remembering what you wrote or understanding your own posts? You've alleged it many times in many different ways.

You have 1 agenda and 1 agenda only, to get back at Snapnames. They're still one of the better drop catchers out there, regardless of the bad advice you give people here.

 

[HeyNow]

"I've never once alleged that others at Snapnames were complicit."

"Because Snapnames perpetrated auction fraud in hundreds or thousands of auctions over a period of years."

Do you have difficulty remembering what you wrote or understanding your own posts? You've alleged it many times in many different ways.

You have 1 agenda and 1 agenda only, to get back at Snapnames. They're still one of the better drop catchers out there, regardless of the bad advice you give people here.

Yes, Snapnames reportedly admitted to the fraud. They blamed one lone employee, but they reportedly admitted to the fraud. That's what all the news coverage stated. I didn't make it up, although from your posts you seem to be trying to float that balloon here. When the money was taken from the clueless customers, it went into the Snapnames bank account. If I am wrong about that, I'm sure you'll state that in your next post.

Maybe you'd prefer to refer to it as the "No One To Blame Except Nelson Brady Scandal." But I don't remember Nelson Brady cutting settlement checks to keep the wolves at bay. I believe those payments came from Snapnames. But who knows, I never got one. The headlines and stories by journals and bloggers state how Snapnames admitted to the fraud.

My "agenda" is to make sure people who stole from me are prosecuted to the full extent of the law. You seem to be preoccupied with my "agenda," as though it meant something really important to you. Hey, maybe you have an agenda too. Let's write about it!

 

[JB Lions]

"Hey, maybe you have an agenda too. Let's write about it!"

Do it. I've asked you more than once. I'll help you out, it's to counter your paranoia/hypocrisy with better advice.

"My "agenda" is to make sure people who stole from me are prosecuted to the full extent of the law."

Do it. Posting on some forum on the internet is just a bunch of blah, blah, blah. Go take some real action if you're serious about it. Or course you have no case, they would probably have one against you.

All that ranting you do, you haven't posted not one single incident of anything happening today, that you can actually back up. Not one. You'll constantly throw allegations around, hint that they're up to no good etc. Just no meat to any of it.

Let me ask you a simple question, yes or no. Is Snapnames good at getting domains, one of the top dropcatchers out there? The top is debatable but are they one of the best?

 

[Kate]

My "agenda" is to make sure people who stole from me are prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Are you in touch with your GA yet ?

 

[serverfm]

personally i don't fully understand when someones says he will not use snapnames again because of their shill bidding.

I mean do we have a choice? If you want a domain and snapnames is the leading dropcatcher with the highest success rate, will you go to namjet just because they are an honest operation?

If you don't use snapyou will probably lose the name to them. If you use them there is a theoretical risk that you will get scammed and will bid against their employees or whatever. In reality i think this is very unlikely, don't think they will repeat the same scam again.

so i think the choices are limited, i would go with the scammers if they are the leading dropcatcher. even if i don't like them.

at least i have a realistic chance of getting the name, even if their shill bidding system were still in place
i control my maximum spending limit. if it is exceeded i lose but if i hadn't bid with them i would have lost anyway.

i have unfortunately learned that the hard way. Recently i wanted to bid on a great name that dropped. I used namejet instead of snap. I really like NJ, they are more user friendly etc, but the domain went to snap of course and i never got a chance to bid on it. I still regret it, when i think back what i great name could have been mine. now it is probably gone forever.

BTW does someone have any data on success rate Snap VS Namejet?

 

[lnbblackno1]

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kjnurse 19-Mar-2013 13:01 PDT $89.00 Bid Placed
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latarioni 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
maxbid 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
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chunyuan 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
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kjnurse 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
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redninja900 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
evanda 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
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jaglass 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
gventures 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
apro 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
exdomain.com 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
farzidaku 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
jiangui 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
bidd.com 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
eastxu 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
rental 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
rick77 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
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7dave 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
jfernan 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
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