Snapnames question

[serverfm]

I have the impression that snapnames sometimes tries to catch domains even when there are no snaps on them in the hope to resell them later or for whatever reason.

Do you think that this is happening?

If so, do you know how do you can buy such names from them?

 

[bilbob]

If they find good domains with no snaps on them, why not to take them?

I know NJ does this but not sure about SN. Some of the hot-picks on the left hand side on Namejet have been captured outside of their bidding system.

 

[FPForum]

I can't say for sure whether Snapnames does this or not, but it also wouldn't surprise me. From my personal research lately it seams that most people only backorder through Namejet these days.

 

[serverfm]

I can't say for sure whether Snapnames does this or not, but it also wouldn't surprise me. From my personal research lately it seams that most people only backorder through Namejet these days.

why would they?

I thought that Namejet doesn't stand a chance against snapnames.

What is the current success rate snapnames vs namejet?

My personal experience: Just 1 domain not too popular. I backordered with namejet 15 minutes before expiration.

i checked with snapnames as well a few minutes before it dropped, i didn't see any backorders on it.

The domain then went to a snapname associated registrar and web hosting company and was transferred to a private owner after a few days.

Either snapnames was catching the name on autopilot and auctioned it off later or someone placed a backorder on it in the last minutes.

I think i remember following a few other drops with no snaps on them that still went to one of the snapnames registrars. Not 100% sure though.

 

[FPForum]

Honestly I'm not really sure why someone would choose Namejet over Snapnames..Other than Namejet bids starting at $59 and Snapnames starting @ $69..As far as standing a chance - This could also depend on which registrar they are dropping from (I'm not positive though). If a name is dropping from Enom then Namejet may stand a better chance than Snapnames. Same with if a domain were to drop from Moniker, then Snapnames may have the upper hand.

I don't know what the current success rate is really. Snap allows bids up to 10 minutes before drop (I think) so it may depend how much time there was between when you checked Snapnames and when the bidding was cut off. It wouldn't surprise me if Snap grabbed it without a backorder though.

 

[HeyNow]

Honestly I'm not really sure why someone would choose Namejet over Snapnames.

Because Snapnames perpetrated auction fraud in hundreds or thousands of auctions over a period of years. Shill-bidding = auction fraud. They blamed one lone employee, and the fraud reportedly amounted to millions of dollars.

Perhaps that's a good reason to use any company other than Snapnames, unless you feel warm and fuzzy about a company that screwed clueless customers out of lots of money.

If you think only one employee was responsible for the auction fraud, as Snapnames claims, please consider, to the best of my knowledge, that no criminal charges have been filed. My opinion is that you'd have to be totally brain-dead to think no one else at Snapnames knew about the fraud, while it was happening. My opinion is that if law-enforcement were to be involved and prosecute ALL the perpetrators, more than one individual would be sent to prison for bilking clueless customers out of amounts of money that far exceed the felony threshold.

Go ahead, give them some more money. IMHO, that's like throwing money at the purse snatcher who just ran off with your purse.

 

[mralien]

I can confirm with a recent backorder. They are either not updating the bids real time before close, or playing dirty.

I placed the bid 12:34:30 - it can't be that noone from the below didn't place any bet before 12:35 - and the bet count was showing 0 till the end.
One thing is for certain, if they want a domain from the drop, you don't have a chance with alternative catching services, maybe NameJet has a chance, but not you with a drop catching soft unless you got lucky in a lotto 1against1000 (of a second) .

beachsands88 19-Mar-2013 13:01 PDT $94.00 Bid Placed
kjnurse 19-Mar-2013 13:01 PDT $89.00 Bid Placed
beachsands88 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $84.00 Initial Bid
oleg_42 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $79.00 Initial Bid
domspace 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $76.00 Initial Bid
sswnslaqlcsk 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $72.00 Initial Bid
accilent 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $70.00 Initial Bid
niphanintang 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $70.00 Initial Bid
djlight 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
domaintec 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
infadtech 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
latarioni 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
maxbid 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
xenosz 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
thefunky1 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
domwhale 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
keepsmile 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
photoramas 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
bizmaster 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
chunyuan 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
bamboohold 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
williekoam 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
kjnurse 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
neteffective 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
redninja900 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
evanda 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
gregorycho 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
jaglass 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
gventures 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
apro 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
exdomain.com 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
farzidaku 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
jiangui 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
bidd.com 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
eastxu 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
rental 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
rick77 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
zhongheng 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
w7 media inc 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
playercool50 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
7dave 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
jfernan 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
bosskk1 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
phillysmiles 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
saggydimes 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
hamsa 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
domainance 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
foreverever 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
hunter 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
omk 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
chika 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
billy9 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
nlpexpert 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
raceflag 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
dominc 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
1002626 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid
sentrixbg 19-Mar-2013 12:35 PDT $69.00 Initial Bid

 

[HeyNow]

I can confirm with a recent backorder. They are either not updating the bids real time before close, or playing dirty.

"Playing dirty?" Really? You mean you suspect a company is playing dirty with you now, knowing that company has a documented history of playing dirty with lots of customers in thousands of auctions over a period of years? Are you shocked? Are you brain dead? Why on earth do you continue to give them your money when you suspect them of playing dirty, and now know they have a tarnished, documented history of playing dirty?

Good luck to you. IMHO they consider you a sucker, and some other members here might agree.
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[talent001]

Haha,

I'm agree with serverfm about some questions.

I'm a newbie, but I more or less see through Snapnames.
Please listen to me,
A domain will be catching by Snapname when the domain is pendDeleted Even if no snaps.

Why did Snapname to do this?

Because there have a lot of gold domains(pendDeleted ) very valuable,
And Snapname has advantage of hardware and software aspects get them.
Snapname catch these domains everyday,Then go to auction, Minimum auction price is $69.
They will throw away junk domains within grace deletion(5 days).
Snapname use the advantage to occupy a lot of domains,
Then Sellhigh and No risk for Snapname.

 

[FPForum]

"Playing dirty?" Really? You mean you suspect a company is playing dirty with you now, knowing that company has a documented history of playing dirty with lots of customers in thousands of auctions over a period of years? Are you shocked? Are you brain dead? Why on earth do you continue to give them your money when you suspect them of playing dirty, and now knowing they have a tarnished, documented history of playing dirty?

Good luck to you. IMHO they consider you a sucker, and some other members here might agree.
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Ditto! Couldn't have said it better myself. I think with the power of Pool, BackorderZone and NameJet most people really don't need SnapNames or their crooked antics.

 

[mralien]

"Playing dirty?" Really? You mean you suspect a company is playing dirty with you now, knowing that company has a documented history of playing dirty with lots of customers in thousands of auctions over a period of years? Are you shocked? Are you brain dead? Why on earth do you continue to give them your money when you suspect them of playing dirty, and now knowing they have a tarnished, documented history of playing dirty?

Good luck to you. IMHO they consider you a sucker, and some other members here might agree.
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Take your pills. I didn't said that I bet or paid on any of the snapnames auctions (I was just curious if I can snap the name and bet the initial 69$ fee since it was showing 0 other participants. And no matter if you like it or not - only snapnames were able to grab that domain this night. Neither NameJet, nor my drop catching software, or my custom drop script stand a chance against SnapNames registrars. So these guys still can kick your butt if they want a domain.

 

[HeyNow]

Take your pills. I didn't said that I bet or paid on any of the snapnames auctions (I was just curious if I can snap the name and bet the initial 69$ fee since it was showing 0 other participants. And no matter if you like it or not - only snapnames were able to grab that domain this night. Neither NameJet, nor my drop catching software, or my custom drop script stand a chance against SnapNames registrars. So these guys still can kick your butt if they want a domain.

So the purse snatcher is selling valuable purses that you can't get in the department store because of demand. You're going to buy from the purse snatcher because he/she has the handbag you want when the department stores don't? And while you're buying the purse from the purse snatcher, the purse snatcher picks your pocket, taking your wallet, jewelry, and even your underwear. You only discover later that you're missing your wallet, jewelry, and underwear. You're going to go back to the purse snatcher and buy some more purses because only he/she has the purse you want? That's, in essence, is what you're saying.

 

[mralien]

That's, in essence, is what you're saying.

Actually what I'm saying is that after my observations from my first post, I will never use snapnames, so I don't know how I became

a sucker,

and a subject of a purse to domain psychological analysis.

 

[Kate]

I think with the power of Pool, BackorderZone and NameJet most people really don't need SnapNames or their crooked antics.

Because BackorderZone is an ethical outfit ? :tri:

 

[HeyNow]

Actually what I'm saying is that after my observations from my first post, I will never use snapnames, so I don't know how I became
and a subject of a purse to domain psychological analysis.

Then my apologies to you. From your post I thought you were thoroughly involved with Snapnames and were participating in their game plan of separating you from your money. Your post most certainly gave that impression.

Good luck to you.

 

[JB Lions]

And no matter if you like it or not - only snapnames were able to grab that domain this night. Neither NameJet, nor my drop catching software, or my custom drop script stand a chance against SnapNames registrars. So these guys still can kick your butt if they want a domain.

There you have it. If you really want a deleting domain and think somebody else might want it, then put in a bid at Namejet and Snapnames, even try Dynadot's $15 deal.

The only suckers here are those listening to people with obvious agendas.

 

[HeyNow]

The only suckers here are those listening to people with obvious agendas.

Yes, like YOUR agenda.

 

[JB Lions]

Yes, like YOUR agenda.

Oh, please share. I'll share yours:

It's not to give good advice that might be helpful to people in getting a name they want, it's to get back at Snapnames. And based on the information at hand, you're most likely getting back at an innocent party, since the one responsible is no longer there. Selfish reasons.

 

[HeyNow]

And based on the information at hand, you're most likely getting back at an innocent party, since the one responsible is no longer there. Selfish reasons.

You're a riot, a real riot. Yes, we were shocked to find out that shill-bidding was occurring in thousands of auctions over a period of years. HE did it (pointing to one lone employee), the rest of us had nothing to do with it. Honest.

Er uh, but we won't prosecute, even though the amounts of money stolen from customers amounted to perhaps millions of dollars, er uh, we, er uh, honest, er uh, we didn't know anything, er uh, he acted alone. Yeah, that's right, er uh, he acted alone!


You're a real riot JB - a laugh a minute.

 

[JB Lions]

You missed telling me what my agenda was.

They did sue him - http://domainincite.com/855-snapnames-lawsuit-“halvarez”-was-chasing-1-5-million-bonus

Did you hear him even once, say that Snapnames put him up to it? Have you even once provided any information backing up any of your claims? No, you just like throwing allegations around.

And all this doesn't change the fact that Snap is pretty good at catching domains. I've picked up some nice ones using them. I will say, part of me does appreciate you scaring away some newbies/potential competition from me. Maybe, I should join you in scaring them away.