.mobi Singular vs plural

[mainly]

I've been debating whether to register names with 's' or not.

I've seen where there is a tendency toward the singular versions.

I assume this is due to difficulty with present day character input.

ex:
'carddeck.mobi'
'carddecks.mobi'

(btw both are available, if anyone wants to register)

Anyway, which is the 'better' registration -- meaning, what might users of cell phone devices key in? ( then of course is the question of what mobile browsers/search facilities will pick up on -- being 'mobile' se's -- will they account for the non-s crowd more easily?

Anybody have insight into this?

 

[Traveler]

It really depends on the name, sometimes a name is better with an "s" and sometimes not.

OVT combines both the plural and the singular, so to get an idea of what people actually type in I would suggest using this tool:

http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/suggestion/?keywords=assistance&country=us

The wordtracker results do not combine the singular and plural so you get a really good idea of how the two compare.

That little "s" can make a huge difference in search results.

Cheers

 

[-REECE-]

I think it kind of depends on the word -- at least for me.

I'd type in card decks for example because I want a selection of more than one. However, I'd type in chocolate not chocolates ironically despite the fact that I am interested in more than one chocolate.

Judging by google search results, I'd imagine there are quite a few people out there like me who type some words in as the plural and others as singular. I don't think dotmobi will change that.

 

[satsdifference.com]

Yes

For a good name.. consider getting both?.. only an extra $10..

Any business would like not to lose traffic to the other.. and would love to use and acquire both..


Kind Regards,

Yelo

 

[Traveler]

For a good name.. consider getting both?.. only an extra $10..

Any business would like not to lose traffic to the other.. and would love to use and acquire both..


Kind Regards,

Yelo

I would agree with that. Depending on the OVT, if you have the chance to get the singular and plural, go for it!

 

[name idol]

It really depends on the name, sometimes a name is better with an "s" and sometimes not.

OVT combines both the plural and the singular, so to get an idea of what people actually type in I would suggest using this tool:

http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/suggestion/?keywords=assistance&country=us

The wordtracker results do not combine the singular and plural so you get a really good idea of how the two compare.

That little "s" can make a huge difference in search results.

Cheers

Very true.

In addition, you may want to consider the following points:

- the singular is usually much better for a branded site, because that's what people have been conditioned to expect since the beginning of the dotCom era

- the above rule is not always applicable if the plural is the dominant form (e.g. I'd rather own ghostbusters.com than ghostbuster.com)

- the plural tends to work better with .org than .com sites, since people traditionally associate .org with organizations - and those tend to be composed of more than one person

- the plural may well be the better form in cases where the site wants to communicate it's a resource and not a brand - which usually means it's providing information for free rather than pushing a paid product. Good .info sites tend to be in that category fairly often. So will good .mobi resources, one hopes.

There are numerous other points that I'm too sleepy to even outline now but may return to in the future :zzz:

 

[GijsZePa]

Mmmmm...difficult.

I alway check the OVT to determine what's the best name.

In my eyes it depends on what you are plannig to do with the site. If you are (for example) a plumber, it's nice to have plumber.mobi, but if you're planning on realizing a site where people can search for plumbers....probably plumbers.mobi is a better name...

To have both is ofcourse the ideal complex...

Martin

 

[Traveler]

I alway check the OVT to determine what's the best name.

OVT combines the plural and singular and can't be used to decide which name is searched more.

 

[GijsZePa]

OVT combines the plural and singular and can't be used to decide which name is searched more.

That's the funny thing. Not always...

I check mostly the dutch ovt for certain words and I can give you an example.
Check golfbaan (golfcourse) and golfbanen (golfcourses) here

You will see that the result is different. If you try recept (recipe) and recepten (recipes) you're true....

Martin

 

[Traveler]

That's the funny thing. Not always...

I check mostly the dutch ovt for certain words and I can give you an example.
Check golfbaan (golfcourse) and golfbanen (golfcourses) here

You will see that the result is different. If you try recept (recipe) and recepten (recipes) you're true....

Martin

Ahh, yes in foreign languages I could see how that would work, just not in english unfortantely. That is why I like wordtracker.

On a side note, the only language I am fluent in other than English is Chinese, and I don't know of any tool that will let me search Chinese Characters I can use OVT for pinyin, but I would love to search the characters.

 

[circa1850]

I saw someone selling a domain name Diabete.???.

Why?

It is word dependent. I am not sure it follows any rules. Dog, dogs, person, persons...if it works it works.

People, peoples...a little tougher.

Just woke up. Need some coffee(s).

 

[Jasdon]

Very true.

In addition, you may want to consider the following points:

- the singular is usually much better for a branded site, because that's what people have been conditioned to expect since the beginning of the dotCom era

- the above rule is not always applicable if the plural is the dominant form (e.g. I'd rather own ghostbusters.com than ghostbuster.com)

- the plural tends to work better with .org than .com sites, since people traditionally associate .org with organizations - and those tend to be composed of more than one person

- the plural may well be the better form in cases where the site wants to communicate it's a resource and not a brand - which usually means it's providing information for free rather than pushing a paid product. Good .info sites tend to be in that category fairly often. So will good .mobi resources, one hopes.

There are numerous other points that I'm too sleepy to even outline now but may return to in the future :zzz:

Nice post nameidol - succinctly put.

To back up what you've said, consider diamond and diamonds.

diamond.com could very well be a name for Diamond Construction, Diamond Kitchens, Diamond Health Care - but diamonds.com is purely for diamonds.

 

[Bigvenue]

The best way is to register both names and post them so that we can see them and advise.if you decide to get the best name then you can drop the other .

 

[scandiman]

I try to register both if both make any sense. hotel and hotels.com go to the same place for good reason. One would loose traffic to the other if owned separately.

 

[bucks]

It really depends on the name, sometimes a name is better with an "s" and sometimes not.

OVT combines both the plural and the singular, so to get an idea of what people actually type in I would suggest using this tool:

http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/suggestion/?keywords=assistance&country=us

The wordtracker results do not combine the singular and plural so you get a really good idea of how the two compare.

That little "s" can make a huge difference in search results.

Cheers

I just tried this for "Body Kit" and "Body Kits" (I have them both)

ovt for "body kit" is over 1900 / day but shows no data on word tracker?

then when I put in "body kits" ovt shows 1600/day and again no data on word tracker?

Question-if ovt always shows singular and plural, then why would it give two different answers? (using the tool above)

also- is it unusual to have no data with word tracker when ovt shows daily high results such as this example?

Thanks for any help in trying to understand the difference in this data.

 

[DomainBuyerBroker]

Nice to have one when the other is a Premium.

I own Videoblogs.mobi and Videoblog.mobi is Premium.

 

[namewaiter]

if it is a product where one would expect options the plural is better...
dogs over dog
cars over car
homes over home
toys over toy

but, other situations apply where the name is all encompassing, but the plural does still exist...
travel over travels
software over softwares

so i guess it really just depends on the specific domain and application

 

[mainly]

These post have been rules pretty much applicable to all extensions.

However the original thread was intended to be about .mobi

While I get the impression that just about everybody here believes the two extensions and the charateristics of the domains are synonymous, I disagree somewhat...

For those users who are not 'fingers' - using the cell pad as easily as a keyboard - I believe the abbreviated formats will have an influence until character input improves (mainly - hey, there's that name again! - when voice recognition comes into its own, which is right around the corner)

There may be more leeway in assuming the plural until this happens. With users getting right more down to necessity

Fact: - notice the 's' may require a total (4) taps on a cell key pad, like with my motorola. (what % are cell phone uers - as opposed to other smart devices/qwerty users?)

Then, when better input exists, the browsers/mobile search facilities:
- may hold singular and plural more interchangeable, both ways, if they are smart. (wouldn't it be nice to have a toggle button to select this preference?)

-and with voice recog too, alpha numeric names will have to be account for.
(making them more flexible - software to tell difference between '1' and 'one')

With the lesser number of developed sites, at least for now, this will probably be feasible. Especially in the beta phase along with the auto addressing of the .mobi extension.

How many registrants are taking # key taps into account when registering, as laid out on a cell pad?

 

[namewaiter]

These post have been rules pretty much applicable to all extensions.

However the original thread was intended to be about .mobi

While I get the impression that just about everybody here believes the two extensions and the charateristics of the domains are synonymous, I disagree somewhat...

For those users who are not 'fingers' - using the cell pad as easily as a keyboard - I believe the abbreviated formats will have an influence until character input improves (mainly - hey, there's that name again! - when voice recognition comes into its own, which is right around the corner)

There may be more leeway in assuming the plural until this happens. With users getting right more down to necessity

Fact: - notice the 's' may require a total (4) taps on a cell key pad, like with my motorola. (what % are cell phone uers - as opposed to other smart devices/qwerty users?)

Then, when better input exists, the browsers/mobile search facilities:
- may hold singular and plural more interchangeable, both ways, if they are smart. (wouldn't it be nice to have a toggle button to select this preference?)

-and with voice recog too, alpha numeric names will have to be account for.
(making them more flexible - software to tell difference between '1' and 'one')

With the lesser number of developed sites, at least for now, this will probably be feasible. Especially in the beta phase along with the auto addressing of the .mobi extension.

How many registrants are taking # key taps into account when registering, as laid out on a cell pad?

ohh, ok ... i see no difference between importance of singular/plural with regards to .mobi as opposed to all the other tlds

 

[bbalegere]

I would prefer to reg both.
In case typos you won't have any problems.