NameSilo

SEDO, AFTERNIC, GD, EPIK, DAN, OTHER??

Labeled as poll in General Domain Discussion started by artstar, Nov 7, 2019.

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  1. Jurgen Wolf

    Jurgen Wolf Top Contributor VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    + Dan escrow for 3F sales (never had any serious buyers on my Dan parked domains)...

    + in 2020 I use Epik for my Epik domains...

    + some BIN domains are listed&parked on Sedo or Uni...
     
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  2. Jurgen Wolf

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    Regarding those new @Sedo landers...
    ~5 months elapsed since they were released - I didn't sell anything... unfortunately.
     
  3. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP Trusted Blogger

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    If I might say, we are fortunate that we have so many good choices.

    I think the traditional big places, Afternic and Sedo, have both improved and given more or better lander options, DAN with its strong landers and other innovations has made inroads, and the registrar marketplaces such as Uniregistry, Epik, GoDaddy, Dynadot, NameSilo and Namecheap offer easy listings, features for those who want something not offered by the big sites, and generally good commissions, often with no minimums.

    Several of the options have agent networks that will negotiate for you, if that is what you want.

    We of course also have all of the brandable marketplaces, as well as Efty who have strengthened their offerings in many ways. There are multiple ways to offer payment plans, and with Epik landers if you so wish you can have custom images, hyperlinks, extensive formatted text and more. Then there are the parking company landers, and several other options I have not mentioned. And of course you can sell to domainers here on NamePros.

    If I look at the options we had almost 3 years ago when I started domaining in a semi-serious way, compared to now, we have so many more superb choices. Now the problem is not that we don't have a good choice, but which one(s) to use!

    Also, Dofo makes it easy for end-users to find our domains from a single place, no matter where we have them. I just noticed today (maybe it has always been there?) that when you have a name that is Dofo-listed and for sale when you hover over the Buy Now if it is available at more than one place it will show up in a list showing the prices, if given, at different venues. An easy way to check where your name is listed (or if someone else has it listed). One of my names I noticed shows up as listed at SnapNames at the same price as my Afternic listing. I never listed it there. Do they just grab the information from the Afternic premium network?

    So in short, so many great choices :xf.smile: of places to list your names and landers for them! Let's make the most of them and sell, sell, sell!

    Bob
     
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  4. Jurgen Wolf

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    SnapNames, NameJet, NetSol are owned by Web.com - and they all are covered by Afternic.
     
  5. Blitzpotz

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    While I don´t hesitate to mention flaws and bugs I am shy to criticize staff in general. I am no employees supervisor and would dislike to hurt someone´s professional existence.

    Though I sometimes could explode when the following issue happens.
    Sadly, every E-Mail is shown as *Spam*, yes.

    Uniregistry always used to have an excellent documentation. You could look into the inquirer´s details and the whole negotiation chat. It seems that they reduced the data they share with the domain owner a few months ago.

    I started to use Epik brokers recently. They share their E-Mails between broker and buyer with you in Bcc which is good. I would prefer to be able to look-up their progress in my Epik account instead of looking into old E-mails later. Do you plan to add a documentation folder or tab for negotiation progress @Rob Monster or is there already something like that?
     
  6. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO Gold Account VIP

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    Full CRM is coming online this month before NamesCon. And right after that, migration tools for legacy CRM data from external CRM providers starting with Uni DNS.
     
  7. tonyk2000

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    Broker-buyer and broker-seller communications are periodically reviewed by real uni supervisors anyway afaik...
     
  8. Jurgen Wolf

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    I use Google mail - and Uni emails are landing into my Inbox...
    So very probably: your Email provider uses some blacklist where SendGrid IPs are banned... that's why it happens for you...
     
  9. Blitzpotz

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    Interesting. Is this a collaboration between Uni and Epik or just Software based data export/import?
     
  10. tonyk2000

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    Yeah, still in beta with no visible intention to improve. I've reported various issues and posted suggestions both in their thread @ NP at directly to my acct. manager. Some things were fixed, most are not. So I'm still forwarding forsale-only domains, where no parking income is necessary, to their old "domain details" page.
     
  11. namemarket

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    Years ago ago UNI gave me the option of selecting which broker I refer the inquiry to from a drop-down menu (they may not offer it now but it still works for me) which is customized with the names of my favorite UNI brokers. I can also submit it to a random UNI domain broker if desired.

    UNI is the best brokerage (IMO), especially if using get a price quote upon request horizontal landing page.
     
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  12. Blitzpotz

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    Yes, we are. I love your optimism and your ability to see the glass half full and not half empty (translated from German, is it used in English like that?). This positivism may be part of the American (in this respect including Canadian) culture. Europeans are ranting more, don´t they? Just because I often thought about differences in judging and communicating the quality of services.

    I love their parking effectiveness and payout. And I will never forget the E-Mail chat I had with Mr. Schilling himself when they started DomainNameSales.com. Hey they let me in to their platform though my portfolio was not really worth being considered then.
     
  13. shopbuydomain.com

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    :xf.smile: ...and sell, sell, sell!
     
  14. Ryan3

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    Bob makes a great point!
    I'd be interested to know where my fellow domain investors choose to list certain types of names like:
    Brandable (made up)
    2 word domains
    1 word domains
    Your highest value domains
     
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  16. Blitzpotz

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    Same here

    My pricing with BINs on Afternic and Sedo is mainly differing which is no smart move.

    Does anybody know if there is a DOFO-like sync tool for your pricing on several marketplaces?
     
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  18. kalkar

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    I think you can find what you're searching for at whmcs in the domain reseller section...
     
  19. Bob Hawkes

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    I have not used this but it might do that (and many other things)
    https://www.namepros.com/threads/your-own-marketplace.1113102/

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  20. Blitzpotz

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    Thanks @kalkar and @Bob Hawkes
    Wasn´t aware of both solutions and will check them out.

    I fear that time and skills (if you are no IT geek) are limiting factors for professional systems like these.
    I already feel rather busy in the moment, besides the other facettes of life.
    I should also open and keep up-to-date accounts with Linked-in and Twitter reading that many domainers find buyers there.

    Dreaming of a work-sharing Name Collective ... with the best geek caring for the tech environment, the best writer caring for Social Media, the best salesman doing negotiations while me opening a bottle of Bavarian beer, satisfied.
     
  21. Stoff_es

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    I will try Sedo and Dan soon.
     
  22. Josytal

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    Thanks @Bob Hawkes

    That link goes to DNHat's product page on NP with description about what and how .
    Ironically, at the early stage, you were one of the few here on NP I asked to test and review DNHat. I even offered you a free lifetime copy. Unfortunately you didn't honor my request. So, you're right (though not rightly) to say you've not used DNHat before.

    Nevertheless, thanks for your reference to DNHat.
    Appreciated.
     
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  23. loredan

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    It is usually a good idea to have your domains listed in as many places as you can, you never know where the right end user might find your name.

    1. Afternic - Afternic is a must for anyone, one of the oldest (1999) and the best domain marketplaces out there. The great number of partner registrars (GD included) makes your domain visible in so many places across all the continents (if Fast Transfer is enabled). You don't have to forward your names to their rather crappy landing pages, just list and forget. Always add a BIN so you can get into the fast transfer program.

    2. DAN - I'm amazed of how fast DAN managed to establish themselves as one of the best players in the industry. I guess hard work, innovation and great customer service eventually pays off. Beautiful landing pages, fast payments and the ability to easily setup monthly installments. Dan worked pretty well for me, I even had a couple of sales where the names been parked somewhere else so there is definitely traffic on their platform, not just direct type in. If they'll manage to launch their registrar side of the business, this will be a game changer.

    3. Uniregistry - Great platform, very cool design. You'll have to park there if you're hoping to make any sales. They have brokers and you can obviously assign a lead to a broker if you think he might do better than you in closing a deal.

    4. Sedo - Good old Sedo, frozen in time since 2001. Not much to say about them really. No sales if you don't point your names to their landers or spend some cash promoting an auction. However once you get a sale they are pretty good at sorting things out, you know german style.

    5. GD Auctions - The place is probably 95% full of other domainers rather than end users so if you're looking to let your names go at reseller prices, be my guest.

    6. Epik - Epik's landers are pretty much the best in the industry so far, you get lots of (SEO friendly) customization options. I don't know about the sale process since I haven't sold anything on Epik yet. Just recently I sold a name at Afternic which was Epik parked so it seems the buyer preferred to pay a bit extra at Afnic rather than clicking the BIN buton at Epik. However it seems that Epik is really fast when processing the deals and the support is great.

    7. Domain Agents - Worth a try listing your names on their platform. Serious people, they just get in touch when your name has an offer, probably lowball you a bit first but they sell names. Why not.

    8. Flippa - Not exactly what it used to be but still a platform with lots of web developers and potential end users that will buy if they see your name there.

    9. Namejet - Used to be cool, now just dull imo. I guess all the problems they had in the last couple of years hit them a bit. Still a good place to offload some names, just make sure you understand that you'll get paid the following month.

    10. Namepros Auctions - Good, friendly environment, probably the fastest way to liquidate your names.

    11. NameLiquidate - The new startup from Epik, looks really good, nice and clean design with a sort of dutch-style auction system. I like it but I don't like the fact that names go down to $1. I personally believe that seller should be able to choose the bottom price from $1 to $9. This platform has a great potential if promoted right imo...

    12. Dynadot / Namesilo / Namecheap marketplaces - These are all registrar-side marketplaces. I never used any of them so really have no idea how they work. Worth a try ...

    13. Twitter & Linkedin - Yup, they do work if used right. Make sure you don't spam.

    Probably the best setup imo:

    1. Pick a landing page. Epik or Dan are the best choices. If you value your name under $5k just list a BIN otherwise go for make offer. Usually add a higher BIN as most likely end users will try to get your name for a lower amount. For example if you want to get $2,500 for a name just list it at $3,500 so you'll have a bit of room to negociate.

    2. Once you picked your landing page, go list the name with Afternic and Sedo. Make sure your Afternic (and Sedo) BIN is higher than the landing page since their commission is higher. You can also choose any other platform from the list above if you think they'll work.

    Hope this helps a bit :)
     
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  24. golan

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    Can you please elaborate?

    For real? My last listing email has been unreplied for already three months.
     
  25. Blitzpotz

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    Of course I can.
    Would you mind to share your experiences, too?
     

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