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I have a site in frames. the top frame has no scrollbars, the bottom frame ocassionally does have scrollbars. now, the problem is that i have my layout centered. so everything lines up on both sides, but when those damn scrollbars come up it pushes the bottom frame over like 10 px. and it screws up my flow... anybody got a fix for this? hit me up, chris
 
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Can't you somehow make it so the scollbar shows up all the time, even if the frame doesn't need to scroll....so the scroll bar goes gray?
 
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Can you give us alink to the site, so we can look at it, to help us help you better.

Thanks!

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update

i fixed the problem, i just went around it with the layout. check it out if ya like: www.cree8art.com
 
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