Republicans Out Of Touch With Reality?

[dgridley]

Ever hear someone say they can tell a certain type of joke because they are a [blank], so it's ok? Well, I'm a Republican (apologizes) so I guess when I say that the Repulicans seem to be out of touch with reality, it's ok because I'm one of you guys :p

Anyway, here it is, just after the landmark CNN/YouTube debates for the Democrats and we have just two Republicans who have signed up for the September Republican YouTube debate: Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) and Rep. Ron Paul (Tex.). What are they afraid of?

Well, we have a quote from Romney:

In an interview Wednesday with the New Hampshire Union Leader, Romney said he's not a fan of the CNN/YouTube format. Referring to the video of a snowman asking the Democratic candidates about global warming, Romney quipped, "I think the presidency ought to be held at a higher level than having to answer questions from a snowman."​

Sadly for Romney, that "snowman" may represent a voter. And Republicans are going to need to court every single voter if they expect to win in 2008 (they won't).

I think Republicans need to lighten up and realize that "the little guy" counts just as much as the next.. maybe more so.

What do you think?

:hi: :imho:

 

[nstalk]

I think you're right on about the republicans....and speaking of snowmen....a republican don't have a snowmans' chance in hell of winning the presidency.....and they know it.

 

[dotprofan]

That was pretty funny. Unfortunately I don't know if you're correct. A couple of well timed 'terror alerts' coupled with an eleventh hour capturing or killing of Osama Bin Laden or God forbid an attack on the 'Homeland' and things could change very quickly. Not to mention that Hillary or Obama, the two democratic frontrunners, will face a truly uphill battle getting over the racial and gender prejudices that still exist in this country. Throw in a dash of Karl Rove slander attacks and I'd say the Democrats will be lucky to squeak out a win in '08. I wish this were not the case.

I think you're right on about the republicans....and speaking of snowmen....a republican don't have a snowmans' chance in hell of winning the presidency.....and they know it.

 

[{insert name here}]

I am not sure how Ron Paul calls himself a Republican.
If you listen to him and look at his platform, hes a Democrat.
He is the only Republican that would get my vote, but chances are thats not gonna happen.

 

[dotprofan]

Democrat? What democrat is in favor of abolishing the IRS? Please justify your comments.

I am not sure how Ron Paul calls himself a Republican.
If you listen to him and look at his platform, hes a Democrat.
He is the only Republican that would get my vote, but chances are thats not gonna happen.

 

[IAmAllanShore]

Democrat? What democrat is in favor of abolishing the IRS? Please justify your comments.

Because you don't have to be 100% to be a member of a party. Otherwise I guess we could play this game all day... "Rudy a Republican? What Republican is pro-choice/anti-gun? Please justify your comments." "Hillary a Democrat? etc. etc. etc."

Don't run around with a chip on your shoulder over something that trivial

-Allan :gl:

 

[{insert name here}]

Democrat? What democrat is in favor of abolishing the IRS? Please justify your comments.

My comment was because he is the most Liberal REP I have ever seen. He acts like a DEM.

 

[viciouscircle]

Democrat? What democrat is in favor of abolishing the IRS? Please justify your comments.

My comment was because he is the most Liberal REP I have ever seen. He acts like a DEM.

He is a paleoconservative/federalist/constitutionalist. I don't know of any positions he holds that are "liberal".

Although I would guess you just made your assertion because don't have much experience with politics beyond a left-right spectrum.

 

[{insert name here}]

He is a paleoconservative/federalist/constitutionalist. I don't know of any positions he holds that are "liberal".

Although I would guess you just made your assertion because don't have much experience with politics beyond a left-right spectrum.

you sir, are hilarious!

I love being attacked due to you being angry about comments in another thread!

Do you even know anything about this man? or do you even follow politics at all?

 

[dgridley]

Well, as has been pointed out, there's a wide spectrum of party affiliation.. but yeah, Ron Paul is one who'd probably get my vote at this point. May be the only Republican who could give the Dems a run for the money.

I am not sure how Ron Paul calls himself a Republican.
If you listen to him and look at his platform, hes a Democrat.
He is the only Republican that would get my vote, but chances are thats not gonna happen.

 

[IAmAllanShore]

Bah - calm - not one to close threads, but everything civil - please!

-Allan :gl:

 

[Ixix]

The definition of a republican and democrate changes with each decade, which is why i think it's so dangerous in my opinion to assign yourself strictly to one party.

 

[~ The 34 Year Buzz!!]

The definition of a republican and democrate changes with each decade, which is why i think it's so dangerous in my opinion to assign yourself strictly to one party.

True, the definitions change until there is very little real difference between 'both sides'.
Ron Paul is pro-individual freedom.
~~~~~
The original two parties in the US were Federalist and Anti-Federalist (led by Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence)
:?
Guess which concept ('original party') Ron Paul supports?

 

[RJ]

The more I see and hear from Ron Paul, the more I like him. He really deserves more attention than he's getting.

You might not agree with him on every issue, but it's hard to find him to be anything other than a good man who stands by his convictions. Is it possible to get one of those in the White House?

 

[Ixix]

True, the definitions change until there is very little real difference between 'both sides'.
Ron Paul is pro-individual freedom.
~~~~~
The original two parties in the US were Federalist and Anti-Federalist (led by Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence)
:?
Guess which concept ('original party') Ron Paul supports?

I doubt Ronald Reagan would recognize the GOP of today. the problem really is that there are different classes of republicans/democrats....and yet we really make no distinction between them....we just say 'republican' or 'democrat' i guess it's the result of a strict 2 party system that we have. It's the hive mind mentality....

but i have to say, that with what's happened in the last 8 years and the abuse of power of today's republican party....i find it very hard to trust anybody with the letter (R) by their name.

 

[CrazyTech]

I find it hard to trust anyone in Washington.

I think you have to look deep to see who really may be out of touch. Contrary to what the media would have you feel, the majority of real Americans in the voting arena aren't all that technically savvy. Aside from office emails that might share a YouTube video, most Americans don't religiously watch YouTube nor really care all that much about it.

The whole "media" experience was unique, but it's still moderated by the same people who created the questions in the first place. It's not something I'd like to see every debate by and the responses were the ususal. It wasn't anything that special in my book at all. I'd consider myself a little more savvy than the average person as well.

I wish a Reagan-like man would come to the floor, but I just don't see it happening in today's atmosphere. We're left voting for Socialists on the left(and even right, arguably) or wishy-washy people claiming to represent the middle or "right."

 

[viciouscircle]

He is a paleoconservative/federalist/constitutionalist. I don't know of any positions he holds that are "liberal".

Although I would guess you just made your assertion because don't have much experience with politics beyond a left-right spectrum.

you sir, are hilarious!

I love being attacked due to you being angry about comments in another thread!

Do you even know anything about this man? or do you even follow politics at all?

I'm not attacking you, nor am I angry about any comments you made in another thread. Anyone who places Ron Paul as the "most liberal" candidate obviously has not done their research. Usually, people who do so are simply confused because his positions don't fall in line with standard neo-con views and therefore assume since he isn't what they view to be republican he must fall under the democrat category.

As far as your questions to me, I am very familiar with Ron Paul, and I've been a supporter of his for quite a while now. As a matter of fact, I even mentioned my support for him in a thread over 6 months ago.

In terms of my general political knowledge, not only did I grow up in and around politics (my father has been an elected official since the early 90s), but I have also been involved in several other campaigns, so I am in no way new to politics.

I wish a Reagan-like man would come to the floor, but I just don't see it happening in today's atmosphere. We're left voting for Socialists on the left(and even right, arguably) or wishy-washy people claiming to represent the middle or "right."

You seem to be looking for Ron Paul...

 

[CrazyTech]

Well, he had me interested right up until he let on about this lunacy to do with 9/11 conspiracies.

 

[viciouscircle]

Well, he had me interested right up until he let on about this lunacy to do with 9/11 conspiracies.

While he has attracted the support of several 9/11 conspiracy groups, I've yet to hear him espouse any 9/11 conspiracy theories himself. As a matter of fact, he has explicitly denied believing in 9/11 conspiracies a few times (see: http://ronpaulaudio.com/rpaudio/RonPaulMikeGallagherinterview071907.mp3 or http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=de1_1185477767)

 

[Ixix]

Well, he had me interested right up until he let on about this lunacy to do with 9/11 conspiracies.

i am left to question alot of things that happened on 9/11 but i don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist. there are many unanswered questions about that day and i don't think it's as cut and dry as we're lead to believe. to discount somebody's opinion about that day as being 'lunacy and conspiratory' is as absurd as calling anybody with an opinion against the bush administration 'unpatriotic'. Since 9/11 our freedoms have been compromised in the spirit of 'safety' , i doubt the ones incharge will do much give any of that lost freedom back.

but that's just my opinion