domain RemovalKing.com

[MrMDMF]

Google Ads​

Global: Monthly Searches	50
Global: Google Ads Competition	25
Global: Approximate Google Ads CPC	4.42

Taken in 5 other TLDs

Would there be potential in this one or no?

-M

 

[bmugford]

It's an OK brand when it comes to trash, garbage, junk removal, etc.

It's the type of domain you would pickup on closeouts, and has a chance to sell for $x,xxx range at some point. But, there are no guarantees it will ever sell.

Brad

 

[Kyle Tully]

Yeah I would probably pick this up at closeouts for $30 and price it around $3k. More if there are established brands using the same/similar brand.

 

[MrMDMF]

Yeah I would probably pick this up at closeouts for $30 and price it around $3k. More if there are established brands using the same/similar brand.

It's an OK brand when it comes to trash, garbage, junk removal, etc.

It's the type of domain you would pickup on closeouts, and has a chance to sell for $x,xxx range at some point. But, there are no guarantees it will ever sell.

Brad

This is pretty much my current strategy for acquiring domains, I'm very vigilant on expireddomines.net

What makes you both price it around xxxx? Is it the competitive nature of other TLDs, the Google Ads metrics, the name itself, or a combination of all 3? (I assume the value estimate is end-user).

Thank you both for the insight, I'm training hard to develop my domaining eye.

-M

 

[Kyle Tully]

3 is just a nice retail price point that makes it an easy/impulse decision for many business owners.

2888 is basically my minimum for .com names. 4888 if it’s a high value niche and/or multiple potential end users.

 

[bmugford]

What makes you both price it around xxxx? Is it the competitive nature of other TLDs, the Google Ads metrics, the name itself, or a combination of all 3? (I assume the value estimate is end-user).

Math.

It's pretty hard to build a business on a 1%-2% sell-through rate with much lower numbers.

Also, it's not like if you charge 1/4 the price you make four times the sales.

Really, any decent two word .COM in a commercial field can sell for $X,XXX range to an end user.

Brad

 

[johnn]

Removepresident.com sounds better and it’s available

 

[MrMDMF]

3 is just a nice retail price point that makes it an easy/impulse decision for many business owners.

2888 is basically my minimum for .com names. 4888 if it’s a high value niche and/or multiple potential end users.

Thank you. I'll consider that in future investments. I assume that's your strategy for most generic two-word domains?

Math.

It's pretty hard to build a business on a 1%-2% sell-through rate with much lower numbers.

Also, it's not like if you charge 1/4 the price you make four times the sales.

Really, any decent two word .COM in a commercial field can sell for $X,XXX range to an end user.

Brad

Interesting, wouldn't a name like this be valuable to a reseller for the xxx range for them to hold out for an end-user thus, resulting in quicker STR?

 

[MrMDMF]

Removepresident.com sounds better and it’s available

Too political for my tastes

 

[bmugford]

Thank you. I'll consider that in future investments. I assume that's your strategy for most generic two-word domains?

Interesting, wouldn't a name like this be valuable to a reseller for the xxx range for them to hold out for an end-user thus, resulting in quicker STR?

Any amount you lower the price will increase STR in general, but not in a linear way.

If you have a domain priced at $3,000, it is not 3x as likely to sell at $1K. It is not 10x as likely to sell at $300.

You get to a point where the STR has to be so high to make lower sales price actually work.

Brad

 

[johnn]

Not talk about politics but we have more presidents than kings in the all the countries

 

[MrMDMF]

Any amount you lower the price will increase STR in general, but not in a linear way.

If you have a domain priced at $3,000, it is not 3x as likely to sell at $1K. It is not 10x as likely to sell at $300.

You get to a point where the STR has to be so high to make lower sales price actually work.

Brad

Ah okay, I guess there's a certain point where diminishing returns come into play.

But to play devil's advocate, wouldn't it be beneficial to me (as an enthusiastic hobbyist) to list potential xxxx end-user domains to resellers at low-mid xxx for potentially higher STR turnover - which in turn, would cycle back into investment capital? My thought process is that it's less leg-work for the investor who would want to turn that xxx into xxxx/xx,xxx as they have more capital/bigger portfolio, etc.

 

[MrMDMF]

Not talk about politics but we have more presidents than kings in the all the countries

Just a joke my friend.

That name just makes me think of presidential assassination

 

[bmugford]

But to play devil's advocate, wouldn't it be beneficial to me (as an enthusiastic hobbyist) to list potential xxxx end-user domains to resellers at low-mid xxx for potentially higher STR turnover - which in turn, would cycle back into investment capital? My thought process is that it's less leg-work for the investor who would want to turn that xxx into xxxx/xx,xxx as they have more capital/bigger portfolio, etc.

If you can find buyers.

The problem is most domain investors are willing to pay closeout level pricing for this type of domain, not mid $XXX.

Generally mid $XXX buys need to have a larger pool of potential buyers and/or more liquid value.

Brad

 

[Molly]

My thought process is that it's less leg-work for the investor who would want to turn that xxx into xxxx/xx,xxx as they have more capital/bigger portfolio, etc.

That’s kind of my thought, too, but it hasn’t panned out that way. Like @bmugford mentioned, fellow investors (buyers) don’t see it that way. Many of them can & will get the same domain names themselves for $50 or whatever on expired domains. They don’t want to pay you or me $x,xxx for it, unless it’s really fucking special in some way.

 

[MrMDMF]

If you can find buyers.

The problem is most domain investors are willing to pay closeout level pricing for this type of domain, not mid $XXX.

Generally mid $XXX buys need to have a larger pool of potential buyers and/or more liquid value.

Brad

Could you clarify a larger pool of potential buyers? My understanding is to list on the most popular sites & hope for the best. Do you have any advice any novices who can maybe afford one or two domains per month & does not have the financial backing to shot-gun approach with an extensive portfolio?

Thanks again Brad

-M

 

[bmugford]

That’s kind of my thought, too, but it hasn’t panned out that way. Like @bmugford mentioned, fellow investors (buyers) don’t see it that way. Many of them can & will get the same domain names themselves for $50 or whatever on expired domains. They don’t want to pay you or me $x,xxx for it, unless it’s really fucking special in some way.

It's basically just math.

If something has a 1-2% STR at $3,000 it makes sense to pay $50 for.
It makes less sense to pay $500 for.

Most two word .COM fall in this category unless they have many potential end users or higher than normal liquid value. The higher the liquid value, the lower the potential return I am willing to consider.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

Could you clarify a larger pool of potential buyers?

Popular branding words, phrases, commercial terms, etc.

In general the more common the term, the larger the pool of end users.

But, those terms generally come with premium prices because of that.

My understanding is to list on the most popular sites & hope for the best. Do you have any advice any novices who can maybe afford one or two domains per month & does not have the financial backing to shot-gun approach with an extensive portfolio?

Thanks again Brad

-M

Well, I guess the main advice is to have realistic expectations.

With a standard STR you are not likely to sell many domains unless you do something to make it happen.

Though, everyone starts somewhere. I would only buy domains you plan to renew long term. If you don't plan to renew it, it is not worth buying IMO. There is no substitute for time when it comes to making end user sales.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

For reference purposes, in the junk removal field a domain like JunkRemoval.com is worth well into six figures in my opinion.

Brand wise, ones like JunkPros.com would probably sell from mid $XXX - low $X,XXX reseller. That type is in a much higher tier IMO.

RemovalKing.com falls into the group where it is worth buying for cheap. If you own hundreds or thousands of that quality you will probably make some sales.

Brad

 

[Kyle Tully]

Not talk about politics but we have more presidents than kings in the all the countries

I think the ideal end user for this name is more likely to be a removal company branding on the word "king" than a coup attempt on an actual king