Registerfly still in business - May be getting $15,000 per day

[accent]

ICANN just got a restraining order on Registerfly requiring the company to turn over records and update them weekly. This means that Registerfly is free to continue registering domains, or pretending to. Their website is still up and appears functioning as of the time of this post.

An insider from Registerfly's office may have shed some light on what is happening. Remember that this is an unverified source, and could be false information:

.... It's been reported to us that Registerfly is pulling in between $5000 - $15,000 us dollars on any given day and not rendering services paid for. .....(clip)

Humboldt may have shut down Registerfly's credit card merchant account, Paypal and MoneyBookers are still accepting funds through the Registerfly interface.
http://www.registerflies.com/information/can-you-say-5000-a-day-for-nothing.html

Again, there is no way to be sure the above is true, but most people have no idea of the troubles at RF and so it is believable that there would still be a lot of money coming in. The media really needs to get on this one. It would cost them $9 to verify this.

 

[bbalegere]

There are many people out there who still are not aware of the fact that RegisterFly is having legal problems.
So many people are still regging names through registerfly,

 

[floatingworld]

There are many people out there who still are not aware of the fact that RegisterFly is having legal problems.
So many people are still regging names through registerfly,

not just regfly, but other deadbeats like 1+1. It is not that domainers are not aware, it is that they choose to discount perceived problems as not important...even before regfly went effectively belly-up, domainers including some members of this forum were strongly advised via the posting of horror stories to stay away from regfly...some did not...why? I think that when it comes to domain name pricing there is a type of moth which will fly directly into the flame and ignore all other considerations...and so it continues......

 

[AdoptableDomains]

taking money with no intent on providing the product is fraud. If that is happening, hopefully it will be enough to put those behind it in jail where they can't come back and do this again.

If this is happening, imagine the response in the next few months when people who think they purchased domains find out they don't own them and never did.

 

[realestatepro]

class action lawsuit will no doubt be filed if this is the case. And depending on the records available after an audit the $10 here and $10 there should add up. But RegisterFly and it's boss(s) probably wouldn't have a pot to piss in after everyone else has taken there cut as they most likely would own the IRS a few dollars also.

 

[Kate]

taking money with no intent on providing the product is fraud.

Indeed and RF is really playing with fire.
But it wouldn't surprise me to hear that Kevin has fled the country with cash laden suitcases

 

[accent]

It would not surprise me if the bulk of the money, after escorts, lawyers and Chihuahua dogs have been paid for, is already out of the country.

I am wondering just how long he can milk this. Almost endlessly it seems. No doubt others are taking notes and plan to follow his lead. The longer this goes on the more it tarnishes the entire domain industry.

This guy has found a huge hole in the system, and is laughing at what fools we all are.

 

[Midano]

ICANN has the ultimate power over ANY domain.
I don't understand what stops them from taking over RegisterFly.com and all other domains pointing there, and redirect them to an informational page describing the whole situation with clear instructions for those clueless registrants.
They went as far as pulling the accreditation. Just put this whole thing out of its misery already...

 

[IAmAllanShore]

class action lawsuit will no doubt be filed if this is the case. And depending on the records available after an audit the $10 here and $10 there should add up. But RegisterFly and it's boss(s) probably wouldn't have a pot to piss in after everyone else has taken there cut as they most likely would own the IRS a few dollars also.

Already has been: http://www.Registerfly-Lawsuit.com

-Allan

 

[Ronald Regging]

In their About Us page, it still says that they are an ICANN accredited registrar. I think the longer ICANN refuses to take action against them, the more liability they are putting on themselves. This whole fiasco is going to end up hitting ICANN's credibility severely, and may end them up in some nice legal trouble as well. They sat back and did nothing about RegisterFly's questionable practices while they were accredited, in the face of probably countless complaints, and now that they've revoked their accreditation, they refuse to do anything about the fact that RegisterFly is still claiming accreditation.

They should change their names to ICANNT

 

[fonzie_007]

I tried to use some of the funds in my RF account to register a domain. The domain showed up in my account, but the whois never showed the domain was registered. Two days later, someone registered the domain at a different registrar. The domain still shows up in my account, RF refuses to answer the phone or any customer support tickets.

 

[AdoptableDomains]

In their About Us page, it still says that they are an ICANN accredited registrar.

If you read ICANN's response, they admit that according to the registar contract Regfly IS still an ICANN accredited registrar until all appeals afforded in the contract expire.

ICANN has the ultimate power over ANY domain.
I don't understand what stops them from taking over RegisterFly.com and all other domains pointing there, and redirect them to an informational page describing the whole situation with clear instructions for those clueless registrants.
They went as far as pulling the accreditation. Just put this whole thing out of its misery already...

I'm not sure ICANN really has the power to legally hijack the RF website on the contractual basis of the registry agreement without setting a bad precendence. However, they do have a copy of the database from a month ago and could have easily sent an email to every email address in the whois warning users of the status. This wouldn't protect new visitors, but would take care of most who already have accounts there. It seems they just expect all domain owners to read the ICANN website or the ICANN blog.

They should have seeked the court to do so in their restraining order though.

I am wondering just how long he can milk this. Almost endlessly it seems. No doubt others are taking notes and plan to follow his lead. The longer this goes on the more it tarnishes the entire domain industry.

This guy has found a huge hole in the system, and is laughing at what fools we all are.

Consider this: ICANN can only stop RF from being accredited and selling domains under ICANN control. They also sell a lot of domains not under control of ICANN such as real and vanity ccTLD's, Centralnic third level domains like .us.com, and in the past new.net third level domains. I wonder if the sellers of those have stopped RF from taking money for those.

I tried to use some of the funds in my RF account to register a domain. The domain showed up in my account, but the whois never showed the domain was registered. Two days later, someone registered the domain at a different registrar. The domain still shows up in my account, RF refuses to answer the phone or any customer support tickets.

Make screen prints of all the RF and whois pages showing this. It may prove necessary in the class action suits...If there's any money left to distribute.

The media really needs to get on this one. It would cost them $9 to verify this.

Where is the media in all of this? Even the tech media has barely made light of it. Mainstream media doesn't even have it on the radar.

 

[The Stealthy One]

It's time for a News.com arcticle!!!

Seriously, I am surprised there have not been major lawsuits against RegisterFly, causing a judge to at least temporarily shut them down until a trial can take place.

 

[fonzie_007]

It's time for a News.com arcticle!!!

Seriously, I am surprised there have not been major lawsuits against RegisterFly, causing a judge to at least temporarily shut them down until a trial can take place.

There is a class action that is pending. See here: http://www.registerfly-lawsuit.com/

 

[GiddyUp]

here's an interesting site that details all of his other scams and the other sites, aside from RF, that he used to carry them out.

http://www.stopunifiednames.com/

 

[SharonTucci]

I was billed for renewals, got emails that the renewals failed but my credit card was still charged. This was a couple months back now. I have incurred more in long distance charges now than the renewal fees calling - no luck. No response to tickets online. I had THOUGHT with all this going on Icann wasn't letting domains expire but my renewals are now showing in redemption period.

 

[floatingworld]

domainer 1: 'hey! don't feed the dead parrot!'
domainer 2: 'its not dead, its just sleeping!'
domainer 3: 'poor thing, it must be hungry! let it feed a little on my credit card'
domainer 3: 'bastard parrot, it bit me!
repeat over several months.....................................................................

 

[iNod]

The class action lawsuit is against eNom, RegisterFly, and ICANN.. Not just RegisterFly :P

I signed it already and offered what I could to the law firm. Who said they are getting all kinds of reports and information from angry ICANN, eNom, and RegisterFly customers.. It is going to be interesting too see what happens. Messing with fire will only cause it to go out or get hotter. And adding fuel to fire only gets more fire back. Thats what ICANN is currently doing.

Surprising enough, eNom has not said a single word regarding this issue :/

- Steve

 

[SharonTucci]

Just an fyi for those who have had problems similar to mine: per the info Icann put out, I contacted them about my specific problem via email. Almost at the start of the business day Monday, I received a response that they've passed on the info to Registerfly to address the situation and that if Registerfly doesn't take care of it within 5 business days, to let them know. I haven't heard the results from anyone that has gone this route (ie if they had success or not), but I was encouraged to see Icann isn't ignoring things.

 

[bbalegere]

Why is the lawsuit against Enom?