registerfly.com transfer Out Cost

[budget]

Had a look on the website but can't find the info? anybody know.

Thanks.
paul.

 

[RJ]

To transfer away from Registerfly? They don't charge you a fee to do so, rather you'll pay the new registrar you will be using at the time you initiate the transfer.

 

[budget]

That's interesting as i sold a domain via Network Solutions Certified Offer Service but when i was completing the form i got this message.

QUOTE
We are unable to authorize the credit card that was provided. Please confirm with the initiator of the transfer request that the credit card provided is still valid. If the problem occurs again please e-mail us at [email protected] or call to speak with a Customer Service Representative at 1-888-642-9675 or +1 703-742-0914 outside the U.S. and Canada.
QUOTE.

So the buyer has to to pay the fee or me?
Do i need to have my own enom account?

Thanks.

 

[RJ]

I've not used NetSol's certified offer service before, so I'm not familiar with their process. What form were you completing when you got that message?

If there is a registrar transfer involved, it would be the buyer that pays the transfer fee at the new registrar. I don't understand where a registrar transfer comes into play here. Does Network Solutions require the name be transfered into their system?

 

[budget]

RJ There service is new to me.
I cant post the link ( details ) here so can i PM you the link in confidants?

Thanks.
paul.

 

[RJ]

That would be fine.

 

[budget]

Thanks RJ pm sent.

 

[RJ]

Received your PM.

eNom is the actual registrar, RegisterFly is an eNom reseller. That part is fine.

I'm familiar with this page. This is the standard register transfer confirmation page. It appears that the buyer is who initiated the registrar transfer to move the domain from RegisterFly to Network Solutions. It's their credit card that failed authorization, nothing you can do about that. Contact NetSol and let them know the situation.

I'm still wondering why the registrar transfer is neccessary. You can transfer the ownership to them at RegisterFly and the new owner can transfer to their preferred registrar at their own convenience.

I have had buyers want to do a registrar transfer as the method of accepting ownership, but I will not sell that way. There's no way for me to verify that the correct person has received the domain. If possible, try to do the ownership transfer at RegisterFly. I'm unfamilar with NetSol's certified offer service, so not sure if they allow that or what.

 

[budget]

Received your PM.
I'm familiar with this page. This is the standard register transfer confirmation page. It appears that the buyer is who initiated the registrar transfer to move the domain from RegisterFly to Network Solutions. It's their credit card that failed authorization, nothing you can do about that. Contact NetSol and let them know the situation.

I thought it was a bit strange.

I'm still wondering why the registrar transfer is neccessary. You can transfer the ownership to them at RegisterFly and the new owner can transfer to their preferred registrar at their own convenience.

Absolutely agree 100%

RJ thanks for all your help.
paul.

 

[AdoptableDomains]

I have the same policy. All ownership transfers must be at the registrar of record, and the new owner can transfer after they have control. My policy is to never authorize a transfer I did not initiate, even when asked. I have only made one exception to this, but required the buyer to release me from all responsibility if the domain or access was lost in the transfer, which they did. It could be risky.

The only real reason to do this is if the domain is at godaddy/wildwest and within 60 days of renewal. They put a transfer hold on name changes, so the buyer may be forced to renew there before doing a registrar transfer.

 

[Grrilla]

I have had buyers want to do a registrar transfer as the method of accepting ownership, but I will not sell that way.

I am selling all of my names through Sedo now, so they oversee the deal. The 10% commission is well worth it to me. As you may know, an intermediary oversees the transaction and keeps things moving w/ email prompts to both parties. They hold the payment in escrow, makes sure it gets to the right person, and than issues pmt. Have had 3 completed transactions, 2 are in the process, and so far, so good. Another that I did 2 months ago from Godaddy to NetSol, and was direct P2P was a nightmare, but I've already, hmm.. documented that. :hehe:

Hi Adoptable. Does that mean that 60 das before expiration and after, that transfers cannot be made or that it is difficult to do so? I have been having difficulty transfering out of GoDaddy, due to some unexpected difficulties, and that may be part of the answer.

 

[RJ]

I have had buyers want to do a registrar transfer as the method of accepting ownership, but I will not sell that way.

I am selling all of my names through Sedo now, so they oversee the deal. The 10% commission is well worth it to me. As you may know, an intermediary oversees the transaction and keeps things moving w/ email prompts to both parties. They hold the payment in escrow, makes sure it gets to the right person, and than issues pmt.

Sedo runs a good escrow, and my policy against using registrar transfers is not to do with the Escrow company but rather the safety in registrar transfer process itself. When you accept a transfer request that you did not initiate yourself, you have to take a leap of faith that it was initiated by the right person and that they are not planning to scam you. The window is left open for fraud.

Imagine this scenario for a moment. You accept a $5000 offer on one of your domain names and the buyer agrees to use the escrow company of your choice. The escrow company receives payment for the name and instructs you to transfer ownership of the domain name. The seller emails you that he will be initating a transfer request for the domain to be transferred to his preferred registrar and all you have to do is accept it.

As expected, you receive a transfer request from his registrar and authorize it. It goes through successfully and you report back to the escrow company that the transfer is complete. All is good? Not quite.. two days later you hear from the escrow company that the buyer still has not received the name. You check the WHOIS to find it registered to some other Joe Schmoe that you've never heard of. You now have lost the domain on a transfer request that you yourself have authorized and the buyer will end up getting a refund of his $5000 payment because you didn't deliver the name as promised.

In this hypothetical situation, the "buyer" was in on this the whole time.. tipping off a friend somewhere when to initiate a transfer request. You are now out your domain and the money.

This is the reason why I will not use registrar transfers to transfer ownership on any transaction of value. If the buyer insists and it will be a deal killer, I will open an account on his preferred registrar and transfer it there myself before allowing anyone else to initate a transfer request.

 

[AdoptableDomains]

Hi Adoptable. Does that mean that 60 das before expiration and after, that transfers cannot be made or that it is difficult to do so? I have been having difficulty transfering out of GoDaddy, due to some unexpected difficulties, and that may be part of the answer.

GoDaddy has a private rule that if a domain has a change in ownership, it may not be transferred away for 60 days. Therefore, if a domain is within 60 days or close to renewal (realistically 75 days), and you are interested in buying, you may be stuck renewing where it is instead of transferring. It pays to check renewal dates and rates before committing to a purchase. I learned the hard way by getting stuck with a couple $15 renewals instead of $7 transfers.

This is separte from the ICANN rule of transfer holds on NEWLY registered domains.

 

[Riceman]

GoDaddy has a private rule that if a domain has a change in ownership, it may not be transferred away for 60 days. /QUOTE]

So their equivalent of a "push" would still hold true for the 60 day rule? Sounds bizarre

 

[Mark]

In this hypothetical situation, the "buyer" was in on this the whole time.. tipping off a friend somewhere when to initiate a transfer request. You are now out your domain and the money.

This is the reason why I will not use registrar transfers to transfer ownership on any transaction of value. If the buyer insists and it will be a deal killer, I will open an account on his preferred registrar and transfer it there myself before allowing anyone else to initate a transfer request.

:bingo: ~ I've often Thought about this happening myself .... Especially since the "New and Improved" Transfer Rules are in Place ~ Good Point !

 

[budget]

How right you are.

Had a few problems since i made this thread but without going into to many details you can gather what happened with an extract from below email.

...........
Dear P. A. Porter,

Thank you for using Network Solutions Certified Offer Service.

The issue you reported to Network Solutions on 1/24/2005 01:40:23 PM and assigned Service Request 1-xxxxxxxxx has been researched.

Please note that once a Certified Offer is presented to the seller of a domain name, and the offer is accepted, Network Solutions will handle all transfer requests, etc. According to our records, it looks as though a transfer request was initiated outside of process. If possible, please try to contact your current Registrar Enom to have this transfer cancelled. Otherwise, we cannot complete this order for you

.............

It could be an over eager buyer jumping the gun on the Network Solutions transfer process or it could be more sinister either way the domain is safe and now under reg lock.

Always take care.