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First off, is .biz a gTLD or a ccTLD? Is biz a country code? Or was this domain really made for business?

Like if it was made by ICANN for business sites, FAIL. Why the heck did they make such an unprofessional TLD for businesses?

.biz ... if you have yourcompany.biz, I see that as unprofessional. Biz is like slander to me.

A better extension would've been .co for company, though it'd probably get confused with com. But seriously, why .biz? Didn't they also try making .inc for incorporations years and years back!?
 
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Like if it was made by ICANN for business sites, FAIL. Why the heck did they make such an unprofessional TLD for businesses?

.biz ... if you have yourcompany.biz, I see that as unprofessional. Biz is like slander to me.

I share the same exact view as you. I don't care biz is short enough to be well suited as a TLD, it's just too unprofessional looking.
 
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EGS said:
First off, is .biz a gTLD or a ccTLD? Is biz a country code? Or was this domain really made for business?

Like if it was made by ICANN for business sites, FAIL. Why the heck did they make such an unprofessional TLD for businesses?

.biz ... if you have yourcompany.biz, I see that as unprofessional. Biz is like slander to me.

A better extension would've been .co for company, though it'd probably get confused with com. But seriously, why .biz? Didn't they also try making .inc for incorporations years and years back!?

You can thank a woman named Esther Dyson for .biz, .info, & .aero. She used to be ICANN's Chairman of the BoD. The registry for .aero originally wanted (filed an application) .air, but know-it-all Dyson changed it to .aero and in essence said "take it or leave it."
 
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EGS said:
First off, is .biz a gTLD or a ccTLD? Is biz a country code? Or was this domain really made for business?
Its a gtld.

EGS said:
Like if it was made by ICANN for business sites, FAIL. Why the heck did they make such an unprofessional TLD for businesses?
Unprofessional by whose standard. .pro is also there, but .biz outsells it 10:1.

EGS said:
.biz ... if you have yourcompany.biz, I see that as unprofessional. Biz is like slander to me.
Your call, I've been using mycompany.biz for quite a few years and in fact rank higher than the .com in search, so...

EGS said:
A better extension would've been .co for company, though it'd probably get confused with com. But seriously, why .biz? Didn't they also try making .inc for incorporations years and years back!?
.co would have been typo heaven. inc is only used in the us... here we have pvt ltd or ltd. You think .firm would have been better?

Same sales info for better perspective:
sport.biz $13,603 11/11/07 sedo.com
loan.biz $11,350 05/05/08 namejet.com
foods.biz $11,350 02/12/08 submitted
moving.biz $9,310 01/28/07 Sedo
traffic.biz $8,000 01/30/07 AfterNic
crm.biz $7,797 01/05/07 Sedo
gratishost.biz $6,585 12/01/06 TDNAM
WhitePages.biz $4,995 06/27/05 Afternic
Greetings.biz $4,555 03/13/07 Sedo
investment.biz $4,200 01/25/07 Sedo
Buy.biz $4,000 04/25/06 Afternic
Unity.biz $4,000 03/13/07 Sedo
Arthur.biz $3,861 03/21/07 Sedo
Alice.biz $3,634 01/10/06 Sedo
generics.biz $3,600 01/12/07 Sedo
paris.biz $3,533 05/03/08 namejet.com
advent.biz $3,500 02/20/07 AfterNic
abc.biz $3,100 02/15/07 Sedo
dentist.biz $3,005 07/01/08 tdnam.com
Gold.biz $3,000 07/04/06 NamePros
Foreclosure.biz $3,000 04/25/07 Moniker
granit.biz $2,926 02/19/07 Sedo
WireFly.biz $2,735 07/08/05 Afternic
horoscope.biz $2,720 10/13/07 sedo.com
events.biz $2,701 05/03/08 namejet.com
bad.biz $2,700 07/29/08 sedo.com
hostgratis.biz $2,685 12/01/06 TDNAM
irland.biz $2,660 02/09/07 Sedo
Beer.biz $2,500 02/28/06 Pool
PartyBackgammon.biz $2,500 03/14/06 Sedo
Ozone.biz $2,438 03/21/06 Sedo
Mediation.biz $2,409 03/07/06 Sedo
Bake.biz $2,409 03/07/06 Sedo
Blockh?user.biz $2,406 02/07/06 Sedo
telecom.biz $2,222 05/05/08 namejet.com
eBooks.biz $2,135 01/17/06 Sedo
Turnaround.biz $2,088 03/13/07 Sedo
Brasil.biz $2,050 05/16/06 Pool
wap.biz $2,000 01/17/07 Sedo
petshop.biz $2,000 01/13/08 sedo.com
dmv.biz $2,000 12/20/07 sedo.com
Only.biz $2,000 01/04/07 Sedo
buzzer.biz $1,991 03/04/08 sedo.com
bangladesh.biz $1,895 03/19/08 sedo.com
shutters.biz $1,850 01/12/09 afternic.com
videogames.biz $1,700 10/01/07 sedo.com
tshirts.biz $1,700 04/17/07 Sedo
woods.biz $1,600 12/31/08 sedo.com
Forestry.biz $1,600 02/29/08 afternic.com
eurosex.biz $1,584 07/21/08 sedo.com
americans.biz $1,583 07/21/08 sedo.com
dry.biz $1,550 03/21/07 Sedo
HOOPLA.biz $1,549 10/09/06 Afternic
ebook.biz $1,510 03/19/07 Sedo
vaporizers.biz $1,500 03/26/08 tdnam.com
kane.biz $1,500 05/20/05 Afternic
fulldownloadz.biz $1,500 06/30/08 afternic.com
syslab.biz $1,410 05/24/08 tdnam.com
Affiliate.biz $1,400 11/04/04 Afternic
blowjob.biz $1,350 02/28/08 sedo.com
kreditkarte.biz $1,330 02/08/07 Sedo
tvp.biz $1,321 03/10/08 tdnam.com
recruiting.biz $1,314 02/13/07 Sedo
PAYDAY.biz $1,300 05/16/08 afternic.com
FRESHFLOWERS.biz $1,300 10/26/05 Afternic
Lending.biz $1,250 01/19/05 Afternic
kauai.biz $1,250 02/25/07 Sedo
AMBITIONS.biz $1,250 08/28/06 Afternic
risk.biz $1,227 05/07/08 sedo.com
mytop100.biz $1,215 01/18/07 TDNAM
businesscards.biz $1,121 05/03/08 namejet.com
tele.biz $1,100 07/30/08 sedo.com
maid.biz $1,100 01/08/07 Sedo
lgp.biz $1,042 06/24/08 sedo.com
airwater.biz $1,001 01/10/08 afternic.com
risky.biz $1,000 06/17/08 sedo.com
bridal.biz $1,000 06/19/08 afternic.com
anson.biz $1,000 10/25/04 Afternic
schuhe.biz $998 02/16/07 Sedo
webcamsex.biz $965 10/11/07 sedo.com
globalsoftware.biz $965 07/31/08 tdnam.com
online-casino.biz $960 10/11/07 sedo.com
koeln.biz $952 02/27/07 Sedo
area.biz $950 06/14/08 sedo.com
BulkCandy.biz $950 10/21/05 Afternic
businesstalk.biz $950 03/11/07 Sedo
text.biz $938 08/06/08 sedo.com
werbeartikel.biz $931 03/15/07 Sedo
handwerker.biz $931 04/19/07 Sedo
laketahoe.biz $918 05/03/08 namejet.com
sheppards.biz $900 04/27/05 Afternic
santaclara.biz $898 05/03/08 namejet.com
wheat.biz $898 05/03/08 namejet.com
sauerland.biz $884 11/01/07 sedo.com
suchmaschinenmarketing.biz $882 01/16/08 sedo.com
hammer.biz $851 02/19/07 Sedo
relocation.biz $850 01/11/07 Sedo
MYRESUME.biz $849 01/22/07 Afternic
DOODLE.biz $842 12/20/06 Afternic
pcsite.biz $820 01/02/07 TDNAM
 
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HeyNow said:
You can thank a woman named Esther Dyson for .biz, .info, & .aero. She used to be ICANN's Chairman of the BoD. The registry for .aero originally wanted (filed an application) .air, but know-it-all Dyson changed it to .aero and in essence said "take it or leave it."
Well, .info is a good gTLD, .biz and .aero aren't.

@Samit: .pro is an alright gTLD but it really narrows businesses down because it really represents to people they're the professionals, the masters, of whatever they have to offer. I don't like .pro that much, but it's better than .biz IMO, but still not suitable for businesses.

As a regular user, I'd rather shop at a .com or .net business site than a .biz. It just rings unprofessional to me.

Samit, most of those sales are good prices, however, I see barely any of the domains sold are even developed (I wonder why).

Domain sales are one thing but let's talk about development potential. I don't see any with .biz...it's a failed gTLD IMO, at least for its purpose.

On a side-note as well, I don't know of any popular .biz sites anymore...I only knew of the .biz site that used to provide a free directory script.
 
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EGS said:
Well, .info is a good gTLD, .biz and .aero aren't.
Aero is an sTLD, not open to public, so lets leave that out.

As far as .biz v/s .info, atm .biz has more credibility basically because .info has turned the tld into a scammers/spammers haven, whatever little credibility it had has been destroyed by the $1 reg promo which has been on for over 2 yrs now.

.info might have more registrations atm but so would .anything if the reg fees were $1/yr
 
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Samit said:
Aero is an sTLD, not open to public, so lets leave that out.

As far as .biz v/s .info, atm .biz has more credibility basically because .info has turned the tld into a scammers/spammers haven, whatever little credibility it had has been destroyed by the $1 reg promo which has been on for over 2 yrs now.

.info might have more registrations atm but so would .anything if the reg fees were $1/yr
I'm saying .info is a better gTLD in all aspects - it has a purpose with a relevant, professional extension. .info domains really could serve as informational portals. I just wish, like you said, it wasn't a spammers' haven. Registration should've been more. I always viewed .info as a perfect extension for students; webmasters to build informational sites that would really dominate other sites in SERPs to provide information about student subjects.

I created a few .info sites that related to the purpose of stated above in the past, but have since then sold them. .info has a lot more potential than .biz IMO. I just wish it wasn't a spammer's haven. Get what I mean?

Now back on topic, BIZ is unprofessional. It's not a real term to shorten the word "business".
 
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Biz is unprofessional while info is professional? We can all see where you're coming from tbh.

Among all the gtlds .info is by far the worst, try to sell one w/o development and you'll know what i mean.

TLDs are never bad, just keywords, seems you had better luck in .info, while i traded away my entire .info portfolio for a .pro, chew on that.
 
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Samit said:
Biz is unprofessional while info is professional? We can all see where you're coming from tbh.

Among all the gtlds .info is by far the worst, try to sell one w/o development and you'll know what i mean.

TLDs are never bad, just keywords, seems you had better luck in .info, while i traded away my entire .info portfolio for a .pro, chew on that.
Chew? What do you mean?
I'm not even talking about .pro I'm talking about .biz and now you're trying to bash .info.

.info I never said was professional. It's a real abbreviation for the word "information" and properly developed would serve its purpose, as I mentioned above. It'd be wonderful if the .info gTLD was used primarily for educational purposes to help students, for example, geometry.info would be an awesome domain for information about math and help etc. Cheetah.info information to help students find information about the cheetah, and so on and so forth...you can see where I'm going with the .info gTLD and its purpose/potential.

.biz on the other hand was created for businesses. It's failed IMO. It's a horrible extension because it's unprofessional and not a real abbreviation or term; at least not proper.

I'm not saying anything about keyword domains but actually ranting about the gTLD itself and its intended purpose. It's a fail to me.
 
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Good on yer mate!

Good luck with your .info's :D

cheers!
 
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EGS said:
...A better extension would've been .co for company, though it'd probably get confused with com. But seriously, why .biz? Didn't they also try making .inc for incorporations years and years back!?

gTLDs must be at least 3 characters, since all 2 character combos are reserved for ccTLDs. FYI, .CO is the country code for Colombia.

When I see .BIZ, my first thought is fly-by-night, immediately followed by, "umm, guess they couldn't afford nor think of a decent domain to use".

.BIZ when viewed side by side with .COM, comes across as second-rate.

To use a car analogy (Americans love these :lol:), .BIZ is akin to a regular sedan - it looks fine by itself, but when parked next to a high-end luxory car, looks mediocre.

Ron
 
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Samit said:
Good on yer mate!

Good luck with your .info's :D

cheers!
I don't have any .info's at the moment. I think you're taking me wrong, I'm not saying .info is for business at all, I'm ranting about how bad .biz is for business - the gTLD's intended purpose, whereas I simply state that .info is an excellent gTLD for its intended purpose to deliver information, if it was used properly (we both agreed that because of the $1/year registration intro, the gTLD was ruined and became a spammer's haven).
 
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As a domain investor, all one should really care about is whether good keyword domains in a particular extension sell in the after-market or not; from my personal experience and observations, solid keyword names in .biz do sell and sell at decent prices although at significantly lesser price than identical .info domains. It goes without saying that barring something totally revolutionary (technologically) the availability and hence prices of good names in all extensions will continue to appreciate better than most other assets and .biz is no exception here. As domainers, we ought not get emotional about these things but rather focus only on our ROI....
 
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EGS said:
Well, .info is a good gTLD, .biz and .aero aren't.

@Samit: .pro is an alright gTLD but it really narrows businesses down because it really represents to people they're the professionals, the masters, of whatever they have to offer. I don't like .pro that much, but it's better than .biz IMO, but still not suitable for businesses.

As a regular user, I'd rather shop at a .com or .net business site than a .biz. It just rings unprofessional to me.

Samit, most of those sales are good prices, however, I see barely any of the domains sold are even developed (I wonder why).

Domain sales are one thing but let's talk about development potential. I don't see any with .biz...it's a failed gTLD IMO, at least for its purpose.

On a side-note as well, I don't know of any popular .biz sites anymore...I only knew of the .biz site that used to provide a free directory script.
I am more or less neutral on the .biz. It does have a bad rap and I think a lot of it comes from the TV junk ripoffs using the word biz. I do own 1 which is targeted for development.
To say that it is unsuitable for development is over the top. Consider:
http://www.bdigital.biz/ - this happens to be a PR6 site
http://www.premierpigments.com/
http://www.nuwayex.biz/
http://www.manwoman.biz/
http://www.netadventures.biz/
http://augustawi.biz/
http://bnw.biz/
http://www.birdsoft.biz/
http://www.didgeridoostore.biz/
http://www.kajoku.biz/
http://www.pamelaspantry.biz/
http://www.lendertalk.biz/
http://www.shoppingcomparison.biz/
http://www.boatingsuperstore.biz/
http://toscanamia.biz/
http://www.greenforce.biz/
http://www.casinotopguide.com/
http://www.businessclubs.biz/
http://www.nafplio.biz/
http://www.cornerstoneinc.biz/
http://www.golfhotels.biz/
http://www.bitart.biz/
which I found by doing a quick Google. I do not deny there are a lot of junk sites listed also but from a quick look these ssites are no worse and often much better than much of the junk I see submitted to my directories every day.

Rest assured that there is plenty of junk, spam and scams using every extension.

I guess that if biz is degrading as a domain name extension then showbiz must be a degrading term for show business.
 
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EGS said:
Well, .info is a good gTLD, .biz and .aero aren't.

Domain sales are one thing but let's talk about development potential. I don't see any with .biz...it's a failed gTLD IMO, at least for its purpose.

.info is good but .biz isnt? i dont like either one but the whole internet is for information so why have a TLD with the name? You can go to Wikipedia.org to get information or Yahoo.com or CNN.com or millions of sites. They all contain information.

When it comes to development potential just about any name in any extension has development potential. If it comes to just domain values then .biz isnt that great but of course they can be developed. Last.fm sold for over $200 million would you tell them that .fm doesnt have development potential? Del.icio.us is worth hundreds of millions would you say .us doesnt have development potential. When it comes to pure domain values then .com is the way to go but for development the domain name is almost irrelevant.

EGS said:
Didn't they also try making .inc for incorporations years and years back!?

not all businesses are incorporated so .inc wouldnt cover everything that .biz does and .bus would look like its for transportation so for a business TLD i cant think of anything better than .biz that they could have came up with to sound like the word business.
 
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