.tv Question to equity and curious what others think as we grow .tv and .com

[jeffoverman]

Hi

Raymond,

Just thought about this

With nutstv.com sale and a lot of this format is being gobbled up including myself the past few months and a way to hedge our bets, how is this going work down the road for us?

1. Keyword tv.com in the .tv marketplace for sales?

2. keyword tv.com has its own category like so there are 2 sales topic

.tv market place
Keyword tv.com market place

I personally like this format so its not all one group. Be faster for people to browse, more organized, easier. Having .tv and .com stuff all in one group will be a pain. If your looking for a keyword tv.com term you click on the tv.com market place for you to browse, post your bids and sellers go there to post. Vice Versa for .tv market place.

3. Keyword tv.com do you want us to post in other threads?

4. Then to add to this how about we have a dedicated topic link on keyword tv.com topics like .tv

Sure its more topics and more clicks around but it would be more organized and get our information faster vs .tv, .com all scrambled in with each other.

Hope this makes sense.

My biggest worry is the marketplace section. Then there are people here that think keyword tv.com is giving up on .tv extension. I think we all have .com stuff and .mobi and etc. I continue to hold and invest in my .tv stuff but .com is king and were still promoting tv in the name

Curious what equity thought is in this. Come next year we will have more threads, more sales, more users in .tv and gaining ground. Eventually equity will probably take on another person help out when we gain more ground folks.

Thanks equity in all your hard work you do and .tv members here.

Cheers

J

 

[TheBulldog]

My 3.5 cents///////


tv.com is NOT .tv. Sure they have synergy, but is it really a part of it right now?

Right now I would say that tv.com is worth more simply because it is a com and any GREAT generic keyword with tv.com is better then .tv. That is just market forces.

I say keep it pure. If we talk about tv.com, then it should only be in a defensive registration position. If we market the fact that solid tv.com names sell much better then tv names, then we only tell a depressing story.

 

[jeffoverman]

I know what your saying bulldog and it is a defensive play or a hedge which I use

But people are doing this as well as me.

Trust me its only a portion of my portfolio. Probably under 25 in total but soon it needs to be figured out and we should figure it out now before it becomes a cluster mess.

I view this as a positive not really a negative.

Keep the input coming inn. I am dying see how ray responds and his view points and weather he agrees with me or disagrees with me.

Just want to know for future tv .com terms where to post.

Thanks

J

Ps...I know I have started a questionable thread and people will either love it or hate it. Just think its a very valid point. Come next year one day there will be 50 .tv market place names then there are 25 tv .com in same ground. Or we just scrape this completly and post in other parts of name pros but its not in tv group.

Sorry cause a stir on this and I know will with more comments but would rather know this then have a big cluster mess next year as we gain more traction in .tv and tv in general

 

[mkylut]

tv.com is a serious threat to .tv imho. I just don't understand why most of you in tv sub forum like it. They even say that tv.com is relevance to .tv?

 

[jeffoverman]

Tv.com is not a threat to .tv at all.

If anything it promotes tv, video and .tv as well.

I did not want to start a debate here weather to go .com or .tv. That's in another thread somewhere.

Just wondering where I should post a couple names like debatestv.com or printerstv.com

Hope equity can post soon.

 

[RPK]

tv.com is a serious threat to .tv imho. I just don't understand why most of you in tv sub forum like it. They even say that tv.com is relevance to .tv?

Who is the "They" that says this?

 

[hullswingerscom]

tv.com..will kill dot tv .
why would some one get dot tv when they can get tv.com cheaper and if they have the com ,it all works better for them.
even puts more value on there com name...
its not good news for dot tv,
even this dot tv forum want to talk about tv.com ,as tho its dot tv,its not

 

[equity78]

Nothing but .tv will be for sale in the .tv marketplace. Feel free to use the regular sales forums for all others extensions.

And Hull if that is your opinion you really should sell and start buying tv.com hopefully you will be much happier and myklut you only need worry why you don't like .tv and no need to worry about those who do. Most who invest in .tv also have a footprint in ***tv.com as it was recommended when the forum first started. I do love some posts here as people think they are making a new discovery when if they took the time to use the search function on the forum they would see ***tv.com was discussed long before they joined NP.

Hope this clears things up, Jeff I see the thought process and it is not flawed but next it will be well Channel goes with .tv so why not ChicagoChannel.com ? Then well I like video so why not dogvideos.com and the like ? Then we will have a bunch of sales threads that are not .tv

 

[lambda]

tv.com..will kill dot tv .
why would some one get dot tv when they can get tv.com cheaper and if they have the com ,it all works better for them.
even puts more value on there com name...
its not good news for dot tv,
even this dot tv forum want to talk about tv.com ,as tho its dot tv,its not

tv.com will never kill .tv... .tv is much stronger than tv.com.

I get much more natural type ins on .tv than tv.com!
On one of my names, I got 100 visitors these last 15 days, and 4 on his equivalent in tv.com... so there's no comparison.

But I will hold the tv.com as a defensive reg for future development of the .tv version... I see more tv.com as a potential "typo"

For me, a tv.com has much less value than his .tv equivalent. Based on the type ins numbers I could collect last 6 months, It is a fact that .tv is more natural, more traffic oriented, more intuitive... so no, tv.com is not a threat to .tv...
"tv.com" is more a "developer's extension"... But we are also domainers, right? :hehe:

@mkylut: Il pleut à la Côte d'Azur?

@Raymond: I would like to thank you for the recommandation you made about tv.com as defensive reg. The first .tv I regged was videography.tv, and when I read your advice one or two years ago, I regged the tv.com version, and I made so for every name I could reg at reg fees. O.K., It costs more to reg two names, but I'm confident it is better for resale and of course development!

 

[Rogor]

It seems to me that there is nothing "magical" about .tv, anything that gets the message across that "there most likely will be video on this site" accomplishes the same task . xxxxtv.com or xxxx tv.net or xxxxtv.info does that just as well. imho dot tv looks great, is easy to remember and you have great keyword domains if type-in traffic develops. Easy branding.
This is slowly changing but more people still know and understand tv.com than .tv, you don't have to explain tv.com as much, I find. Then once they understand what .tv is, then you have to try to explain the pricing policy. I'm just guessing on this, but it occurs to me that there might be more TM hassle with tv.com, DogTV might be more easily granted a TM than Dog. That's one for legal though. I think they will exist side by side for quite some time.

 

[jeffoverman]

Ok. That's the answer I was looking for. Know smash a dedicated thread and she asked. So I thought I would.


Understand what your saying ray. Will never end and.

Tv.com will not kill .tv. Sure I am in it and but if I thought this I wouldn't be a 15 to 1 ratio in favor of guess what. .tv.

Go ahead and delete this ray if you wish. I sense this will start a huge debate but that's what I was not intending. There are couple other active threads going on this, this more of a question to you and format.

Thanks in answer

 

[mkylut]

Equity, I like dotTV. I just feel that tv.com is a big threat to .tv. tv.com is clearly another ext. What I don't like about .tv is just the premium renewal (sorry, off topic). Good luck to all of you .

 

[jeffoverman]

My last post in this thread.

I am seeing type in traffic as well in .tv names

Been seeing this since September area.

Have a couple names that are doing very well and I am very happy.

Have a nice porn name that continues to do well with more vistors each month

Then I have a food related term that is my best performer.

A few others are doing well

So yes users are beginning take notice of .tv.

My tv.com words I am waiting for search pick those up and did it because search likes .com and a hedge

Good luck everyone.

J

 

[equity78]

Educated debate is fine Jeff with some facts and knowledge supporting one's thesis.
The fact of the matter is .com is the extension known best worldwide. The purpose of this forum is not to unseat .com as that will not happen IMO. The purpose from day one was to give like minded people interested in investing and discussing the .tv extension a place on the internet. Nothing more, nothing less.

My interest is entertainment/tv so I own tv/entertainment domains in com/net/org/.us/.co.uk/.tv NOT JUST .TV.

There will always be people who hear UFC.tv actually see it on the program but type in UFCtv.com. WHY ? There is no cure for stupid, people cannot read. When UFC used UFC.tv before acquiring UFC.com the overture with extension for UFCtv.com was 1200. That domain no doubt got significant traffic. When the International Fight League started they have IFL.tv I had owned IFLtv.com the traffic started picking up and made $100 a month PPC on SEDO. SO it always makes sense to have a multi pronged strategy. People need to do some homework, this business is not "I regged a domain now show me the money."

IF you do not have a plan it does not matter, look at .com certainly had a great year yet many domainers, had a losing year. Why? Because a bad domain is a bad domain in any extension.

The people who own great .tv not good but great are not worried at all about .tv. If you own good .tv I do not think you should be worried either but that is my opinion. Those people they took their time, they did their homework, they did not overspend, they were not looking to flip a premium that was available for 7 years in 3 months.

This is not get rich quick or .tv will overtake .com if those are anyones plans most likely they will fail. That is on them not the extension. Again IMO

Myklut I agree on the premium renewal but we cannot change it really and Tuvalu is actually upset with what they are getting now so I don't know how premium pricing will stop.

The best thing would be for Verisign to sell the .tv corp. Again IMO

 

[smashfactory]

Ok. That's the answer I was looking for. Know smash a dedicated thread and she asked. So I thought I would.

what do you mean jeff? i dont get that sentence ;-(

i buy both- to me tv.com is a solid backup for .tv- its like, if ou find your perfect name in a com, you buy the net and the org to protect your brand- same here- if you have dog.tv, and you can get dogtv.com- go for it



oh forget it- i got it

 

[jeffoverman]

smash-i am on my laptop and had my starbucks coffee just now after being up all night.

you had asked equity in a thread on keyword tv.com

i wanted to ask equity on what a dedicated keyword tv.com sales or market place thread.

he only wants .tv extension and after his response it makes sense.

that was it.....i threw a question out and was giving you credit in asking equity for the .com part of things.

hope that helps..

 

[RogueWriter]

tv.com will never kill .tv... .tv is much stronger than tv.com.

I get much more natural type ins on .tv than tv.com!
On one of my names, I got 100 visitors these last 15 days, and 4 on his equivalent in tv.com... so there's no comparison.

But I will hold the tv.com as a defensive reg for future development of the .tv version... I see more tv.com as a potential "typo"

For me, a tv.com has much less value than his .tv equivalent. Based on the type ins numbers I could collect last 6 months, It is a fact that .tv is more natural, more traffic oriented, more intuitive... so no, tv.com is not a threat to .tv...
"tv.com" is more a "developer's extension"... But we are also domainers, right? :hehe:

@mkylut: Il pleut à la Côte d'Azur?

@Raymond: I would like to thank you for the recommandation you made about tv.com as defensive reg. The first .tv I regged was videography.tv, and when I read your advice one or two years ago, I regged the tv.com version, and I made so for every name I could reg at reg fees. O.K., It costs more to reg two names, but I'm confident it is better for resale and of course development!

Nice post. Defensive reg is exactly right! .TV rules!

 

[benzdorf]

Stupied question ?

I asked this once before but never got a reply from anyone...is it possable to have a dotTV only search engine, kinda like google has .de and so on and so fourth ??

If it is possable it would make the ***tv.com irelevent..

 

[smashfactory]

i think google.de and google.es ect is because so of so many internet users- i think tulavu has 5

 

[TheBulldog]

I asked this once before but never got a reply from anyone...is it possable to have a dotTV only search engine, kinda like google has .de and so on and so fourth ??

If it is possable it would make the ***tv.com irelevent..

I believe you can. You can use google tools to create your own search engine. I looked once and you can set it up to narrow to specific fields, just not sure if you can narrow to specific extension.

Like this:

http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=017173922848927928787:jith20q7tis

OK all, try this:

http://premiumdomain.tv/results.html