.tv Appraisal Of Vetstv.com + General Discussion

[MillersCrossing]

Now that we are getting closer to launch, the question of TV.COM is a point all of us could have another discussion about......

Yes, if we can get the TV.COM as a defensive reg it goes without saying that we should do that, especially if we own a premium .TV....

But lets consider those of us who own the TV.COM but not the .TV......I for instance own VETSTV.COM, someone else owns VETS.TV - I am sure the price tag for that was pretty hefty....I remember something like 4k per annum, but I could be very wrong and have mixed that number for another....it may have been more....

But any which way - how much would you guys appriase VetsTV.....is it worth more because someone has already regged the premium, as opposed to it sitting there unregged......

And, whilst it is regged, it is currently parked, I am assuming that if it would be developed , VETSTV would be worth more still...

And generally, will the market accept TV.COM as a rival to .TV or even supercede .TV????

Thanks for any feedback in advance

 

[eyedomainous]

And generally, will the market accept TV.COM as a rival to .TV or even supercede .TV???? Thanks for any feedback in advance

Timely post.

The TV.com aftermarket already outperforms the .TV aftermarket. Which is why, to answer your other question of the day, I will monitor but will most likely not go after any "premium" .TV's, at launch.

Also, I now buy .TVs as defensive regs to protect the TV.com. But will take the lone .TV without much thought if thats all there is.

I think .TV is a cleaner brand... in most cases (GalleryGuide.TV v GalleryGuideTV.com) but .TV's collateral issues, from price to being a country ext, has made TV.com a safer, less expensive reg./renewal, choice for consumers. See for yourself...

Go to an aftermarket site... say Godaddy's TDNAM.com. Enter .TV and look at the number of bids. Now do the same for TV.com.

VetsTV.com is a very sweet reg.. It has as much, if not more, value as Vets.TV... if only because its short enough to make typing it in quicker than going through the Fav folder and when folks think and type "Vets TV" they are more likely to type VetsTV.com (call it .com conditioning, or habit). IMO

 

[StoneRoses]

It's a good question James, i personally think that if DM do what they say and increase awareness off .tv then initially this may boost numbers to all tv.coms , however i feel that after maybe 12-18 months most will be familiar with .TV whilst the others will maybe still automatically go to xxtv.com.

I don't think that TV.COM will ever be as popular as .tv and i think the only people who would want these names are the owners of the developed .TV version and even then, they won't pay huge sums as they will believe( rightly so imo) that they have the better version anyway, but as you said it would be a great defensive reg for any premium .tv we own.

I know there are several tv stations already using .TV
Five.TV U.TV GM.TV MU.TV , to name a few.
Television itself will be a strong factor in getting people into typing .tv rather than .com into there browser and as we have all seen ,more and more huge companies are now using .tv as their primary site

In the case of GM.TV if you type in GMTV.CO.UK it redirects to GM.TV,so i am hopeful that this a trend which continues.
That said i would always take TV.COM to go with any Premium if i had the chance.
IMO the tv.com will always be more valuble to the owner of it than than any potential buyer.
Just my thoughts and i could be waaay off. :lol:

Whoops, sorry James forgot the appraisal, vetstv.com is nice name and i would have thought if vets.tv gets developed it will get some decent traffic, definately worth regging for a few $, i would say high $xx-low$xxx at present but who knows maybe even high $xxx 6-12 months from now

 

[DomainBuyerBroker]

Timely post.

The TV.com aftermarket already outperforms the .TV aftermarket. Which is why, to answer your other question of the day, I will monitor but will most likely not go after any "premium" .TV's, at launch.

Hmmm. I don't know about that. I don't know if there are any stats about tv.com typos or even tv.com sales.

 

[eyedomainous]

Hmmm. I don't know about that. I don't know if there are any stats about tv.com typos or even tv.com sales.

Sales Stats in this area are hard to come by, true. TDNAM.com is the only aftermarket website, that i tried, with search sophisticated enough to show market activity for "TV.com and ".TV". Or, tv before the dot verus tv after the dot.

While I should not draw sweeping market conclusions from this method, the Godaddy/TDNAM results do show more public interest in "TV" before the dot domains:

Today, TDNAM shows:

--one (1) bid on a .TV name... and its bid is $10

-- Tv.com domains have 9 bids... 3 bids for $10 name / 4 bids on a $400 name / 1 bid for 10k / 1 for 15k

The % disparity in the numbers, volume and bid amount, while not conclusive, can be extrapolated to reflect the overall market trend due to the wide range, or gap, between the two TV domain catagories. IMO

 

[DomainBuyerBroker]

Good homework.

Now, if you don't mind, I need to remove the foot from my mouth and sit down to a bowl of my words so I can start eating.

 

[kubativity]

.tv will be better than tv.com because it is far more brandable and, as you say, cleaner. In my opinion, xxxxtv.com is just a bit better than having the subdomian xxxx.tv.com. Hmmm... I wonder if the owners of www.tv.com will start selling subdomains like centralnic.

 

[MillersCrossing]

.tv will be better than tv.com because it is far more brandable and, as you say, cleaner. In my opinion, xxxxtv.com is just a bit better than having the subdomian xxxx.tv.com. Hmmm... I wonder if the owners of www.tv.com will start selling subdomains like centralnic.

"TV will be better" are the key words here, because right now it would seem not.

I hope that .TV will not just go up in value over the next 18 months, which I think is almost a sure thing.....but that it will do so substantially......in other words, when $15,000 sales get announced, we won't all jump for joy and hold on to that sale for dear life as a validation for our enthusiasm for .TV

I want to see VIDEOS.TV go for 250k for Argos, I want to see my EDUCATION.TV go for a similar amount and I want to see many many sales in the 50K plus region..If .MOBI can do it, .NET can certainly do it, .TV has no legitimate reason why it can't do it too.

Will we ever see such a market for .TV?? And how long will it take to get there if we do??

Good homework.

Now, if you don't mind, I need to remove the foot from my mouth and sit down to a bowl of my words so I can start eating.

How refreshing to see such a confession!!!!!! From an editor in chief no less!!!

 

[eyedomainous]

Good homework.

Now, if you don't mind, I need to remove the foot from my mouth and sit down to a bowl of my words so I can start eating.

LOL! Your foot was never in your mouth as you clearly stated "I don't know if there are any stats..."

In any case, .TV launch, re-launch and premium hype aside, I truly think .TV could quickly become the second most popular ext., after .com, IF the price were the same. And the marketing re-re-launch campaign was run like a mock election. I could see our spokesperson Mr. Daily behind the podium cracking jokes about the other candidates/extensions, and saying something like... "TV, the mass media, is now the medium for the masses. I promise to put a .TV in every pot. For I believe EVERYONE should have a channel, not just the rich. Afterall... what is a channel but a Voice in the info-wilderness?
Be Heard! Be Seen! Vote For Me with .TV!!

So I say to you today... my fellow netizens... ask not what your TV can do for you. Ask what YOU could do with a .TV!! :kickass:

 

[antonis12]

I want to see VIDEOS.TV go for 250k for Argos, I want to see my EDUCATION.TV go for a similar amount and I want to see many many sales in the 50K plus region..If .MOBI can do it, .NET can certainly do it, .TV has no legitimate reason why it can't do it too.

Will we ever see such a market for .TV?? And how long will it take to get there if we do??

It has already happened, it is just invisible, because the six figure sales have happened as premium sales direct from Verisign. sports.tv for $200K/year; sex.tv; china.tv also six figure events if I am not mistaken.

$200K/year means something like the equivalent of $1M in one-time sales value. Just for the record, sporttv.com was sold for $90K, so in the spirit of trying to draw conclusions from limited data points, this is a victory for the .tv vs the tv.com in a major way. LOL

now, if Verisign was running around at TRAFFIC bragging about their big .tv sales and sports.tv was written up in DN Journal, etc etc the way .mobi was, we would have seen a bit more of a speculative mania all through the chain.

It is OK though. Just be patient. It will be healthier to have a gradual buildup than a boom and bust which I worry might happen to .mobi.

Note: prices will not rise radically while there is the backlog of premium .tv inventory available for registration. As that gets whittled down, then you will see more secondary market action. My guess is we are still looking at 18-24 months for steady, big secondary market sales.

(Personally, I prefer the .tv from a brandability perspective. I have electiontv.com and election.tv and I am using the .tv version. I will redirect the tv.com version to the .tv version.)

 

[MillersCrossing]

I could see our spokesperson Mr. Daily behind the podium cracking jokes about the other candidates/extensions, and saying something like... "TV, the mass media, is now the medium for the masses. I promise to put a .TV in every pot. For I believe EVERYONE should have a channel, not just the rich. Afterall... what is a channel but a Voice in the info-wilderness?
Be Heard! Be Seen! Vote For Me with .TV!!

So I say to you today... my fellow netizens... ask not what your TV can do for you. Ask what YOU could do with a .TV!! :kickass:

Make sure you get this your script over to Mr Daly......watch him tear up his notes and start again!! Top of the draw mate!!

It has already happened, it is just invisible, because the six figure sales have happened as premium sales direct from Verisign. sports.tv for $200K/year; sex.tv; china.tv also six figure events if I am not mistaken.

$200K/year means something like the equivalent of $1M in one-time sales value. Just for the record, sporttv.com was sold for $90K, so in the spirit of trying to draw conclusions from limited data points, this is a victory for the .tv vs the tv.com in a major way. LOL

now, if Verisign was running around at TRAFFIC bragging about their big .tv sales and sports.tv was written up in DN Journal, etc etc the way .mobi was, we would have seen a bit more of a speculative mania all through the chain.

It is OK though. Just be patient. It will be healthier to have a gradual buildup than a boom and bust which I worry might happen to .mobi.

Note: prices will not rise radically while there is the backlog of premium .tv inventory available for registration. As that gets whittled down, then you will see more secondary market action. My guess is we are still looking at 18-24 months for steady, big secondary market sales.

(Personally, I prefer the .tv from a brandability perspective. I have electiontv.com and election.tv and I am using the .tv version. I will redirect the tv.com version to the .tv version.)

Antonis,

One big amen to your post. Let's hope that we and every other .TV believer hits it big time..... :D

 

[poiuytrewq]

Strikes me that a great tactical move would be for enom to drastically slash the prices of normal registrations to coincide with the may 1st promo. Maybe they intend to do this and I've just not heard about it?

Imagine, if .TVs were $15. It would go kerazeeee!

 

[RPK]

Again the main difference between .mobi and .tv is the renewel fee. If a .tv premium sells for $50,000.00 that is worth much more then $100k for a .mobi. Yet when people read it they will only read it as $50,000.00 for a .tv.

 

[eyedomainous]

Make sure you get this your script over to Mr Daly......watch him tear up his notes and start again!! Top of the draw mate!!

Very kind of you, brother. It would be a trip and an honor if Carson even read my post. Let's see what gets unwrapped and served in a few days. Hopefully its tasty and filling... Cause We're All Quite Hungry! And our .TV dinners have been in the oven long enough!