opinion Quantity VS Quality

[jamaltq]

Hello guys
If you have a limit budget, what you prefer to invest in (not considering short liquid domains)?
A big quantity domains (low to mid quality), or few good quality domains.
What I think is that if you own a large portfolio domains with big variety , you have a chance to sell more than if you have a small one.
You can notice that many low quality domains sold daily for very good price, some of them selling for even thousands, while they are not really worth the hand reg. fee.
Any feedback with thanks.

 

[UmerK]

I think a mixture of both would work, let's say you could break into it something like this.
$8k to after market buys and $2k for hand register domains.

What this would mean is you would have some very decent quality domains and sufficient enough number to make a sell here and there!

 

[Kuffy]

I've hand registered and kept 400-500 domains over the last few years but this year I'm dropping at least half and purchasing after market names instead. I'll still save a couple of thousand a year by dropping that many, assuming they were never going to sell in the first place This is partly due to the pound falling here in the U.K. and therefore the cost of renewals nearly having doubled in the last 4/5 years.

If you sell your names for dollars through the name silo market place, then you can have your proceeds credited to your account, and this saves the double currency conversion costs. If you sell one that you would have dropped for $10, then that pays for a renewal or new registration.

 

[biggie]

I think a mixture of both would work, let's say you could break into it something like this.
$8k to after market buys and $2k for hand register domains.

What this would mean is you would have some very decent quality domains and sufficient enough number to make a sell here and there!

Hi

it would also mean -
you would have depleted your budget... if you straight-out gate, spent $8k on aftermarket names and $2k on hand-regs.

the smart move would be to invest $3k > $4k and then see what offers, sales or traffic those names receive, before expending your "reserve" funds.

you want to know if you're on the right track or making bad choices, before acquiring more names.
as you'll still need funds for renewals, for those domains that you still have faith in.

also, it's pertinent that you have some "cash on hand" for those "gud deals" that come up every now and then.


imo...

 

[SpareDomains]

I'd go quality over quantity. Massive portfolio may end up with some oddball lucky sales here and there but would need enough luck to counter massive renewal fees. 1 nice car in the driveway trumps 4 junkers with flat tires in your front lawn.

Own assets not wishful thinking lotto tickets. If the domain doesn't make "end user" sense then why own it?

 

[Isac]

I always prefer quality over quantity.

 

[Kuffy]

Why not have two portfolios - an investment one of high quality names, and a trading one of usable traffic names. You never know, one of the flip names may turn into an investment name - usually just after you have sold it.

 

[Smiles76]

Truth is, you have to have both. If you look at all the really successful domainers, they own extremely high quality domains but they also own a ton of domains in general which increases their likelihood of sales.

 

[NameOmnia]

I feel like I'm better at finding value in the lower-end of the market, so I guess that puts me in the Quantity camp.

I'm not comfortable enough with my knowledge of higher reseller prices to risk all my cash on just a few names at that level. The risk I see there, with a limited budget, is that you get stuck with a few names that you can't even resell for a profit, and you end up having to (hopefully) wait for an end-user to come around.

So... mark me down for Quantity

Same here. I am not the kind of person wanting to invest thousands in one name, I would not sleep! lol

I've hand registered and kept 400-500 domains over the last few years but this year I'm dropping at least half and purchasing after market names instead. I'll still save a couple of thousand a year by dropping that many, assuming they were never going to sell in the first place This is partly due to the pound falling here in the U.K. and therefore the cost of renewals nearly having doubled in the last 4/5 years.

I honestly have done well with both hand registered and aftermarket and by aftermarket I mean closeouts or bargain sales here on NP.
Have you registered mainly new trends? Because that could explain the outcome.

If you sell your names for dollars through the name silo market place, then you can have your proceeds credited to your account, and this saves the double currency conversion costs. If you sell one that you would have dropped for $10, then that pays for a renewal or new registration.

I did not know that the sale proceeds were credited on the account, I thought they were only paid to PayPal etc.
It seems an interesting feature though, given that NameSilo is my favourite registrar.

I think though that quality over quantity is not enough of a specific parameter..I mean, outside of the obvious great domains ( which are definitely not for sale for x.xxx ) what would you / we define a quality domain?

As per quantity.. I am here reducing my portfolio and I have fewer than 500 names..I know people who own xx.xxx - xxx.xxx so what is quantity?

Very interesting conversation.

 

[mwzd]

With 10k, spread it around, buy quality names in the $300-$1000 range (yes they're available, specially in the aftermarket) to a max of $3-4k.

Spend another 1-2k on hand regs / drops / closeouts, keep balance in reserve for deals, but do your due diligence when buying these, make sure the domain has a clean history and from a reputable seller.

You really need to know what is quality and what sells to even spend $1 on a domain, else it's like buying a lottery ticket.

 

[Kuffy]

Now here is a thought -

If a name is on a drop list or an expired list, then somebody thought it was good enough to register.

 

[boker]

These are the top 50 sales from past week, from namejet and dropcatch, assuming that they are mostly domainers who buy from these venues....also, I have excluded numeric and short domains, because mostly they are traded between domainers. So this is how is supposed to look the average domainer's portofolio, with buys of xxx-xxxx? Except a few of them, I would not buy most of them, because I think that the ROI will not be high enough to help you stay on profit year by year. I don't think that aftermarket purchase equals value....sometimes a good hand reg of 8$ could bring you much more ROI than a marketplace purchase. I think your buys should be counted as wise if they bring enough ROI to make sense, no matter if they are hand reg's or aftermarket purchases.

Domain Price Date Venue
flatchat.com 1,100 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
niaochong.com 1,069 USD 2017-08-10 DropCatch
peoplecentral.com 898 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
btcniu.com 877 USD 2017-08-10 DropCatch
fishermedia.com 670 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
dogrepellent.com 600 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
sirpay.com 589 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
cityventure.com 567 USD 2017-08-10 DropCatch
serintel.com 555 USD 2017-08-10 DropCatch
industrydesign.com 510 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
ranova.com 496 USD 2017-08-10 DropCatch
wwtech.com 439 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
cruisingdirect.com 427 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
cartila.com 340 USD 2017-08-10 DropCatch
footballtours.com 335 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
bitcointip.com 299 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
flagfen.com 298 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
paweb.com 292 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
snibston.com 265 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
brainmysteries.com 261 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
kunban.com 259 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
lyluxin.com 244 USD 2017-08-10 DropCatch
avtronics.com 240 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
universalbrand.com 229 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
glaub.com 224 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
allprinter.com 184 USD 2017-08-10 DropCatch
itvirtual.com 184 USD 2017-08-10 DropCatch
thiskiss.com 165 USD 2017-08-10 DropCatch
biaohei.com 164 USD 2017-08-10 DropCatch
patravaditheatre.com 160 USD 2017-08-10 DropCatch
artrex.com 157 USD 2017-08-10 DropCatch
infomgmt.com 141 USD 2017-08-10 NameJet
outmore.com 3,300 USD 2017-08-09 NameJet
shabang.com 1,525 USD 2017-08-09 NameJet
antspay.com 1,402 USD 2017-08-09 NameJet
softwall.com 840 USD 2017-08-09 NameJet
kanfu.com 810 USD 2017-08-09 NameJet
copyclub.com 593 USD 2017-08-09 NameJet
youthbusiness.com 559 USD 2017-08-09 DropCatch
northbayrealestate.com 502 USD 2017-08-09 NameJet
cungcap.com 500 USD 2017-08-09 NameJet
debtflip.com 479 USD 2017-08-09 NameJet / TLDPros.com
gokom.com 450 USD 2017-08-09 NameJet
alwaysfun.com 448 USD 2017-08-09 NameJet
coineye.com 444 USD 2017-08-09 DropCatch
tongzhimen.com 429 USD 2017-08-09 DropCatch
dreamheart.com 410 USD 2017-08-09 DropCatch
phonescore.com 385 USD 2017-08-09 NameJet / TLDPros.com
fallenfootwear.com 345 USD 2017-08-09 NameJet
pvcwindows.com 285 USD 2017-08-09 NameJet

 

[NameOmnia]

These are the top 50 sales from past week, from namejet

I don't think that aftermarket purchase equals value

Agreed & Agreed...especially after knowing that domain owners, relatives, friends etc were bidding on their own names on NJ inflating the price. And especially after some big names have openly supported such practice.

 

[Kuffy]

I think there are only 2 that I would have picked up off a drop list.

pvcwindows and debtflip

Maybe I really am out of touch with the market.

 

[jamaltq]

If you check the domains daily sales report you will find that 80-90% of them, low quality domains.

 

[Kuffy]

If you check the domains daily sales report you will find that 80-90% of them, low quality domains.

So my names are too good for people to buy then.

 

[jamaltq]

So my names are too good for people to buy then.

Sure

 

[Kuffy]

I'm starting to get the idea. "tower bridge" gets lots of searches on Google, so if I registered tow-a-bridge.com that would be a premium name, and I could sell it to a motor recovery company.

 

[lock]

Put the 10k into one subject and buy out the industry.

 

[Kuffy]

Put the 10k into one subject and buy out the industry.

Let me know the topic, and I'll put together a bulk deal of " quality, premium and unique " names.

 

[imadoer]

You really need both. Obviously you are better off with quality domains over crap, but if you only have a handful of quality domains then you can face a situation where you basically have dead capital.

With quality + quantity you have more fishing lines in the water. Sales are far more likely.

The key is to know what "quality" means and how much to pay for it.

Brad

@bmugford Hit the nail on the head..