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Quantity VS Quality

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  1. jamaltq

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    Hello guys
    If you have a limit budget, what you prefer to invest in (not considering short liquid domains)?
    A big quantity domains (low to mid quality), or few good quality domains.
    What I think is that if you own a large portfolio domains with big variety , you have a chance to sell more than if you have a small one.
    You can notice that many low quality domains sold daily for very good price, some of them selling for even thousands, while they are not really worth the hand reg. fee.
    Any feedback with thanks.
     
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  2. Ategy.com

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    It's a trick question ... because most people don't even know what a quality domain actually is! :-/ lol
     
  3. Ategy.com

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    Seriously speaking though ..in domaining "quality" is pretty much the multiplication of "chance of sale" x "likely sales price".

    Then factor in your purchase price to find the value of your purchase.

    But then go back to the start and keep in mind that figuring out the actual values for "chance of sale" and "likely sales price" is a whole bunch of fuzzy logic and some unknown combination of science and art ... and I think luck and magic as well fits into the equation somewhere ... lol


    In theory though .. I look for VALUE when looking for names ... basically .. above average quality names with a good variety of potential and likely buyers. By above average I mean compared to other domains at the purchase price of the domain I'm considering to buy.


    You can find value in a name you buy at $5k .. just as you can find value in a $5 closeout.


    The only negative I can think of for a new domainer who would buy a single domain at $5k instead of spreading that same money between multiple domains, is that even if you have a very high 20% likelyhood of selling it (per year), then on average you'd be sitting there for 5 years before moving on to your next domain.

    It's also good to buy volume when you start so you can learn ... and if you buy cheaper domains your mistakes will theoretically cost you less! lol ;)
     
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  4. NameOmnia

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    With a limited budget you cannot buy a big quantity of domains unless you register them during specific promos.

    I think the attention should be more on how to diversify and by that I mean buying/registering domains you know you can sell quickly and others you keep for longer.

    Without cash flow there is no domaining as there is no money for renewals, buy new domains etc.
     
  5. biggie

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    define a "limited budget"

    as is, it's as vague as looking thru a 15 inch thick coke bottle at night, in the fog,, thru one eye.

    are we talking $500, $5,000 or $36,750 or what?

    imo...
     
  6. jamaltq

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    Let's say 10k for example.
     
  7. Kuffy

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    Of course I do - it's a name that is registered by me. :)

    Well it was quality when I registered it, just like that girl I met in the wine bar just before it closed.
     
  8. NameOmnia

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    Ok, that is not so limited then!

    I think that if you refer to an inexperienced domainer I would recommend to hold back and gain some real understanding, facts, data etc before spending big.

    To a more experienced domainer I would say some new trends, some good domains, and some gems from the drops / closeouts.

    I always think diversifying is the best solution.
     
  9. Kuffy

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    This thread reminds me of the old domain name joke -
    Never mind the quality, feel the width.

    or was that something to do with men's suits - I guess it's the same thing anyway. :)
     
  10. jamaltq

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    Thank you, just to clarify, I am not discussing how to spend that amount, I am asking what do you prefer to invest in, Quality or Quantity.
     
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  11. Kuffy

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    If it isn't quality, then don't invest in it - even if it is "only" $8

    Always remember - " you've got to invest money to lose money"
     
  12. Kate

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    I think you always come back to the basics: quality > quantity.
    Many domainers fall for the trap and end up with a bloated portfolio (which is expensive to renew).
    The problem is that diversifying in crap doesn't increase the odds of making a sale.
     
  13. guilty

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    I think when you invest in quality domains, you're doing more investing than gambling, but when you focus on quantity over quality, you're more gambling than you're domaining. For me quality over quantity.

    With $10,000, you could grab a few high-quality domains.
     
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  14. bmugford

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    You really need both. Obviously you are better off with quality domains over crap, but if you only have a handful of quality domains then you can face a situation where you basically have dead capital.

    With quality + quantity you have more fishing lines in the water. Sales are far more likely.

    The key is to know what "quality" means and how much to pay for it.

    Brad
     
  15. Nat Hunt

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    I feel like I'm better at finding value in the lower-end of the market, so I guess that puts me in the Quantity camp.

    I'm not comfortable enough with my knowledge of higher reseller prices to risk all my cash on just a few names at that level. The risk I see there, with a limited budget, is that you get stuck with a few names that you can't even resell for a profit, and you end up having to (hopefully) wait for an end-user to come around.

    So... mark me down for Quantity :xf.cool:
     
  16. Kuffy

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    So if you have a mix of names - lets call the volume names "flips", and the quality names "investments"., and the mix is something like 10% investment names and 90% flips, should you list them all on the same site? Or would it be better to have 2 sites with a cross reference?
     
  17. Asfas1000

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    You should list domains in the same niche under the same roof, so that your visitor will look at several.

    If you have totally unrelated domains listed together, an end user will get tired quickly. Only a domainer will go through your domains looking for a bargain.
     
  18. Kuffy

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    I've started to do that using Name Silo free hosted market sites. I was using my own domain names for the sites, but then I decided that would prevent the sale of the base domain name. :) The other advantage is that you can place names in multiple categories, and you only need to update the info in your main portfolio panel.
     
  19. biggie

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    well said Brad,

    i totally agree!


    imo...
     
  20. Magicpig2

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    I've hand registered and kept 400-500 domains over the last few years but this year I'm dropping at least half and purchasing after market names instead. I'll still save a couple of thousand a year by dropping that many, assuming they were never going to sell in the first place (n) This is partly due to the pound falling here in the U.K. and therefore the cost of renewals nearly having doubled in the last 4/5 years.
     
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  21. UmerK

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    I think a mixture of both would work, let's say you could break into it something like this.
    $8k to after market buys and $2k for hand register domains.

    What this would mean is you would have some very decent quality domains and sufficient enough number to make a sell here and there!
     
  22. Kuffy

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    If you sell your names for dollars through the name silo market place, then you can have your proceeds credited to your account, and this saves the double currency conversion costs. If you sell one that you would have dropped for $10, then that pays for a renewal or new registration.
     
  23. biggie

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    Hi

    it would also mean -
    you would have depleted your budget... if you straight-out gate, spent $8k on aftermarket names and $2k on hand-regs.

    the smart move would be to invest $3k > $4k and then see what offers, sales or traffic those names receive, before expending your "reserve" funds.

    you want to know if you're on the right track or making bad choices, before acquiring more names.
    as you'll still need funds for renewals, for those domains that you still have faith in.

    also, it's pertinent that you have some "cash on hand" for those "gud deals" that come up every now and then.


    imo...
     
  24. SpareDomains

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    I'd go quality over quantity. Massive portfolio may end up with some oddball lucky sales here and there but would need enough luck to counter massive renewal fees. 1 nice car in the driveway trumps 4 junkers with flat tires in your front lawn. :ROFL:

    Own assets not wishful thinking lotto tickets. If the domain doesn't make "end user" sense then why own it?
     
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  25. Isac

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    I always prefer quality over quantity.
     

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