information Premium LLLL.net countdown 2015

[Chetan]

As number of available LLLL.net made from English premium letter only (A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, L, M,
N, O, P, R, S, T) constantly decreasing I think it's right time to start this countdown.
Right now there's around 8100 available names.
At the end of August number was 10600.
At current registration pace it's safe to assume that all of them will be gone by New Year/January
2016, as speed usually increase when under 5000 names left.
Few fact to keep in mind:
1. Lowest market price for worst quality LLLL.com currently is $120-130, which is higher than it was in
2008 when premium LLLL.net buyout first happened.
2. Bottom floor price for English premium LLLL.com is $350-450, that puts targer price for English
premium LLLL.net at $17-22 taken 5% of LLLL.com price.
3. All Chinese pattern LLLL.net were bought out in July and just in two month their price skyrocketed
4-6 times all the way up to $35-40 a piece.
4. All Chinese LLLL.cc were recently bought out as well.
5. All CVCV LLLL.net and premium VCVC.net were bought out and currently being picked up from drop.
You can check list of remaining English Premium LLLL.net here:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ow0hqo
Cheapest registration is at BigRock.com and Reseller Club $5 for .net
Alernative is Dynadot $6 and $GoDaddy $7.

 

[domeen]

Yeah, money is very hard to make nowadays, few days ago I had to sell the whole 6 LLLL.net to pay rent and buy food, it's ridiculous!
I look at market price and don't sell under the market.
Last time I sold it was 20 pieces at once.
And all email offers I'm getting now asking for bulk sales.
Unless you only have 1-2 names every reseller will offer you to buy in bulk.

also selling one by one - some idiot pulls money back in paypal. another hassle, time/money wasted. it all depends.

 

[domeen]

There's less LLLL.net in Western hands that LLLL.com it's a fact.
Because Chinese were late to the party, when Western domainers bought LLLL.com and a lot more Chinese end-user companies made the sites in .net, and Chinese company bought 30K of them in July and out f the last 145K 80-90% was bought by Chinese.

yes and in China there are 1.4 billion people all want domains to start businesses.
then World total is 7.4 billion, and they didn`t register the domains in 30 years. sure sure

 

[namethreads.com]

"How many of you tried and successfully bought LLLL.com or LLLL.net from Chinese investor?"
No. I have bought some at below market price here in Namepros.

 

[J9]

All LLLL.net in Godaddy Closeouts are bought out whether premium or worst!
So already LLLL.net have Base Price of $5(lowest closeout price)+$8(lowest renewal price, Discount Domain Club)=$13!

 

[domeen]

All LLLL.net in Godaddy Closeouts are bought out whether premium or worst!
So already LLLL.net have Base Price of $5(lowest closeout price)+$8(lowest renewal price, Discount Domain Club)=$13!

yes, thats how value is made. for sure

 

[J9]

@domeen I respect your opinions. You don't believe in 4L.nets. Fine. No problem. I also don't like new Gtlds and don't invest in them. But you know what, domainers who are researching, understanding and then buying them are selling them for thousands of dollars. I will not go and say to them, hey stop buying that sh*t!

You will be amazed to see that any 4L.net will be selling for $20 soon.

 

[djum]

Despite of all useless comments by our "friend" domeen I really like what Jitesh Prasad brought to our attention - if they are being bought out at GD, that really good sign, same was with Chinese LLLL.net, first dropcatching, then GD closeouts and backorders, then at some point price rise.

And here's the second sign that I found:
130 LLLL.net was sold today at Ename and 22.cn, that most than ever!
http://www.chaomi.cc/ym/11/4

Trading at 60-70 yuan now, but 130 is good volume, indeed.

 

[domeen]

@domeen I respect your opinions. You don't believe in 4L.nets. Fine. No problem. I also don't like new Gtlds and don't invest in them. But you know what, domainers who are researching, understanding and then buying them are selling them for thousands of dollars. I will not go and say to them, hey stop buying that sh*t!

You will be amazed to see that any 4L.net will be selling for $20 soon.

we have freedom of speech. And if you keep posting bullshit like this, I keep posting.
Thanks for understanding.

 

[domeen]

Despite of all useless comments by our "friend" domeen I really like what Jitesh Prasad brought to our attention - if they are being bought out at GD, that really good sign, same was with Chinese LLLL.net, first dropcatching, then GD closeouts and backorders, then at some point price rise.

And here's the second sign that I found:
130 LLLL.net was sold today at Ename and 22.cn, that most than ever!
http://www.chaomi.cc/ym/11/4

Trading at 60-70 yuan now, but 130 is good volume, indeed.

Chinese don´t buy at GD, they buy at ename
thats your friend Igor buying at GD

 

[J9]

we have freedom of speech. And if you keep posting bullsh*t like this, I keep posting.
Thanks for understanding.

May I know what bullsh*t I posted?

 

[djum]

Chinese don´t buy at GD, they buy at ename
thats your friend Igor buying at GD

LOL, seriously, stop making fun of yourself!
Where else Chinese don't buy?
Namejet? Snapnames? Dropcatch? First is alien?

Btw, I don't have friend with this name. And you can't see who's buying until whois is changed week after purchase or so.
But I checked plenty of Chinese LLLL.net in September/October and saw who was buying them, many were Chinese.
And during the last GD promo many people registering were Chinese.
And they were using Whois.com promo as well.
If you think Chinese are stupid, don't know English, and can't use Western registrars you are very wrong.
They know what they doing and have their own agenda.

 

[Shams]

LOL, seriously, stop making fun of yourself!
Where else Chinese don't buy?
Namejet? Snapnames? Dropcatch? First is alien?

Btw, I don't have friend with this name. And you can't see who's buying until whois is changed week after purchase or so.
But I checked plenty of Chinese LLLL.net in September/October and saw who was buying them, many were Chinese.
And during the last GD promo many people registering were Chinese.
And they were using Whois.com promo as well.
If you think Chinese are stupid, don't know English, and can't use Western registrars you are very wrong.
They know what they doing and have their own agenda.

Even Flippa. i sold 4 days ago a domain to a chinese buyer at flippa.

 

[Shams]

@djum how many 4L.net are remaing to register. Do you have a list.

 

[J9]

@djum how many 4L.net are remaing to register. Do you have a list.

All are gone!

 

[Shams]

All are gone!

ooops Gone.. ..! Great... price will rise soon..

 

[Michael R.]

This LLLL.net buyout reminds me what the diamonds cartel is doing to keep high prices and maintain demand: http://are.berkeley.edu/~sberto/debers.pdf. See also the De Beers company history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Beers#Diamond_monopoly

They maintain scarcity by storing in banks the diamonds they found (this cost for them look likes the domains reg fees for us), and invest largely in marketing to create demand (as the bidding proxy First is buying everything in public auctions).

The point is: it's working since dozens of years (more than one century) for diamonds economy. Companies are doing profit, and buyers are happy to own rare jewelry. So, not sure this game will stop. We are maybe facing an emerging domains economy?

 

[Shams]

This LLLL.net buyout reminds me what the diamonds cartel is doing to keep high prices and maintain demand: http://are.berkeley.edu/~sberto/debers.pdf. See also the De Beers company history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Beers#Diamond_monopoly

They maintain scarcity by storing in banks the diamonds they found (this cost for them look likes the domains reg fees for us), and invest largely in marketing to create demand (as the bidding proxy First is buying everything in public auctions).

The point is: it's working since dozens of years (more than one century) for diamonds economy. Companies are doing profit, and buyers are happy to own rare jewelry. So, not sure this game will stop. We are maybe facing an emerging domains economy?

It's a basic rule of Economics which we learned in our first grade. ( Supply and Demand ). only the frustrated domainers saying again and again that 4L .net will not rise. either they have missed the train or don't have guts to aboard.

 

[domeen]

It's a basic rule of Economics which we learned in our first grade. ( Supply and Demand ). only the frustrated domainers saying again and again that 4L .net will not rise. either they have missed the train or don't have guts to aboard.

Where is the demand? if you and Igor flip the domain for $100 in this forum, this dosen´t create value! Thats some kind pyramide scheme, nothing else. You and Igor are not that rich so it could go one forever

 

[Genius327]

Where is the demand? if you and Igor flip the domain for $100 in this forum, this dosen´t create value! Thats some kind pyramide scheme, nothing else. You and Igor ar not that rich so it could go one forever

Why do you care so much if this is a "pyramid scheme" or not? You're just wasting your time and everyone's else who debates with you.

 

[domeen]

Why do you care so much if this is a "pyramid scheme" or not? You're just wasting your time.

I actually don´t care.
But if the bubble burst I can rub it all into your nose. how stupid you where. then I feel good about myself. Thats about it.
and also I am a little bored.