PR Question: WTF is Going On?

[dragons5]

My site is normally a PR4 site but suddenly today google is saying I have no backlinks and when I run a check I am getting anything from 0-2 as my pr. here is what each one of Googles data centers has me ranked as. Am i dropping to a PR0 site????

Showing results for: http://www.radiorevolt.com
# Data Server Current PageRank
1 toolbarqueries.google.com 0
2 216.239.37.* 0
3 216.239.39.* 0
4 216.239.51.* 0
5 216.239.53.* 0
6 216.239.57.* 0
7 216.239.59.* 0
8 216.239.63.* 0
9 64.233.161.* 0
10 64.233.163.* 4
11 64.233.167.* 4
12 64.233.171.* 0
13 64.233.179.* 0
14 64.233.183.* 4
15 64.233.185.* 0
16 64.233.187.* 0
17 64.233.189.* 0
18 66.102.1.* 0
19 66.102.7.* 4
20 66.102.9.* 0
21 66.249.81.* 0
22 66.249.83.* 0
23 66.249.89.* 0
24 66.249.91.* 4
25 66.249.93.* 4
26 72.14.203.* 4
27 72.14.205.* 0
28 72.14.207.* 0
29 72.14.209.* 0
30 72.14.211.* 0
31 72.14.215.* 0
32 72.14.217.* 0
33 72.14.219.* 0
34 72.14.221.* 0
35 72.14.223.* 4
36 72.14.235.* 0
37 72.14.253.* 0

Results generated at
http://www.iwebtool.com/pagerank_checker/

 

[abdussamad]

When was the last time you checked? Pr updated last on the 9th of jan.

 

[Keral_Patel]

You have backlinks: http://www.iwebtool.com/backlink_checker?domain=radiorevolt.com

Thanks.

 

[CheapVPS]

I have heard that Google is not considering the backlinks from directories and links comming from other blog comments. And the result of it is many sites like yours came down to almost 0 backlinks. I am also wondering what is G upto.

 

[dragons5]

I have heard that Google is not considering the backlinks from directories and links comming from other blog comments. And the result of it is many sites like yours came down to almost 0 backlinks. I am also wondering what is G upto.

:td:

i know i have backlinks but this is complete b.s. to drop me from a PR4 to a PR0.

But why would some of Google's servers have me at PR4 and why would they say there are 0 sites linking back to me?

When was the last time you checked? Pr updated last on the 9th of jan.

Checks are as of yesterday.

 

[Keral_Patel]

I have heard that Google is not considering the backlinks from directories and links comming from other blog comments. And the result of it is many sites like yours came down to almost 0 backlinks. I am also wondering what is G upto.

Technically this is not true. It is still counting the links from Powerful directories.

The only thing is that they are hitting the bunch of directories that have came into existence in last year or so. With phpLD and templates and category dumps available for free. Now everyone is making directories of his own.

 

[Waiter]

How can I determine powerful directory? Is it quite difficult?

 

[eli03]

How can I determine powerful directory? Is it quite difficult?

you can used the seomoz tool (page strength), most webmaster used this tool to determine the strongest directory.

 

[dragons5]

still hasnt answered why the link:www.radiorevolt.com comes back empty completely. that's my biggest concern because they were a lot of links.

 

[peet]

One of my sites disappeared completely from Google for a week, just recently. I thought the problem was duplicate content with another site I have but am not certain that this was the cause or whether it was just a Google update quirk. It is now back to normal. Perhaps things will return to normal for you in a day or two. You could check copyscape.com for your popular pages and see if they are duplicate.

I noticed that you have LOTS of error with validation. That might be part of the reason, although definitely not all. I also see you have many of the same backlinks as I have from DMOZ imitation directories. Eg, IP 208.97.184.67 and subdomains has loads of directories. I asked about this in another thread but got no response but it makes sense that Google might deprecate links from such neighbourhoods, although I hope they don't because I've got over 1000 links from them! Were most of your links from such directories or were they good ones?

 

[W-M]

My site webmasterdirectory.us used to be a pr2 but it some how droped to a pr0.

 

[dragons5]

I noticed that you have LOTS of error with validation. That might be part of the reason, although definitely not all. I also see you have many of the same backlinks as I have from DMOZ imitation directories. Eg, IP 208.97.184.67 and subdomains has loads of directories.

not sure what validation errors you speak of. the site is built with e107 v0.7.7 so there is not much I cand do in the way of that. Not sure about 'imitation directories' either but DMOZ I am no fan of since I applied 1.5 years ago and have never been added.

Most of my links are from users posting in forums, forum sigs and trading with sites I have done little to no directory work with the site.... i was going to but now I am doubtful it will help.

I was told it's either Google just decided my links were too "weak" and deleted them or that this is temporary.

 

[lpstong]

The only thing is that they are hitting the bunch of directories that have came into existence in last year or so. With phpLD and templates and category dumps available for free. Now everyone is making directories of his own.

This may be true. But not in my case at the moment. I have had a phpLD on a directory I have. I put it in the last 6 months. The PR on the directory has not changed in the last 6 months. I waited after the last update to swithc over to a word cloud on it. I figured it would be less maintenance on me. So I will see what it will do for the next Google Gods update round.

My site webmasterdirectory.us used to be a pr2 but it some how droped to a pr0.

Sorry to hear that. How many submitted sites do you have in your directory?

 

[peet]

The validation errors. Go to http://validator.w3.org/ and check your site. I don't know what e107 is but most software from what I've heard (I've never used any) that makes web pages uses too much code and is often invalid. If you must use software perhaps you could try something else.

Re Dmoz imitators, that's bad news that you never got added to dmoz. I haven't got added either, although it's a non-commercial site with unique content. Since I applied I got all those imitators instead. I don't get them with sites I haven't submitted to Dmoz. See my thread at: http://www.namepros.com/search-engines/290409-dmoz-imitators.html if you like. I might be too paranoid but as I understand it Google now has a strong connection with Dmoz, so I reckon if Dmoz rejects a site, so does Google. Dmoz moderators might pass the rejects on to those imitators, or some moderators own those imitator sites. I don't think it's a coincidence. Am I too paranoid?

Re links on blogs and forums etc, there can't be anything wrong with them, but I suppose they are 'weak' cos people can obviously post as many comments in forums as they like.

To my mind, Google robots are trying to be as 'human' as possible in how they interpret what they gather, so think of your site as to how humans see it and build it according to that.

 

[bru]

Dragons5: since incoming links play such a great role in technology implemented by Google, why would they reveal all the inbound links they have listed for any given site? I don't think they have ever done it this way.

 

[dragons5]

Dragons5: since incoming links play such a great role in technology implemented by Google, why would they reveal all the inbound links they have listed for any given site? I don't think they have ever done it this way.

umm yeah so just do link:www.yoursitehere.com and bam it shows links to teh site.

 

[YesBrilliant]

When was the last time you checked? Pr updated last on the 9th of jan.

The last PR update started on 20th of January. I know because I lost some PR on that date and noticed the servers dancing.

Also, some of my sites had a significant drop in the number of back links at Google, but not at MSN and Yahoo.

Many back links were from real users who liked the info on my sites and linked them, without any action from my part.

Another interesting point is that Google is Not listing backlinks from the Yahoo Directory, which is Paid.

I don't if is temporary but is certainly weird.

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On the other hand, I got several jumps in PR, including one from PR0 to PR4, and the domain is only parked at 1Plus.net, just with the correct keywords. Nothing else.

 

[bru]

Sure, it shows some, but not all of them, neither the most important ones (from Google point of view): why would they tell this to all them sem/seo guys???

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YesBrilliant: I didn't know that thing with Yahoo! Directory, but seen few times the inclusion having an impact on SERPs in Google (and traffic from Google)

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you can read more about Google and backlink checking in this thread http://no_url_shorteners/2wwdst (at searchengineforums.com)

 

[Keral_Patel]

Do one thing go to your google webmaster account and then check your links from there.

From google and in the google and by the google. This report cannot be wrong.

 

[YesBrilliant]

...the inclusion having an impact on SERPs in Google (and traffic from Google)

Yes, that is certainly true and one of the most important factors to rank well and get traffic.

But why is G not listing them? I even have sites listed in several local Yahoo Directories, per country, and they are not listed either. They are too important to be left out.


I saw your forum above and one answer to stronger backlinks to your site is:
- The origin Site (where the backlinks comes from) must have a general subject related to your site or page linking to;
- The origin Page must also have a subject related to the subject of the page in your site;
- The origin Paragraph, or text around the link, must also have a subject related to the subject of the page in your site;
- The origin Anchor Text must have a keyword/s related to your site/page.
- The link must be a real link, with http://, not just the www. Yahoo counts them, but MSN and G, no.
- Origin Links should have one of the tags B or STRONG. Some peolpe include H6 to H2 but it is not reccomended since it seems spamming. Also, links should not be in tny sizes like size 1. The colour can not be the same of the background.
- The more on the top of the page the origin backlink, the better.
- The lower the number of outside links on the page where the origin Backlink is located, the better. Also, the higher the PR of those links are pointing to, the better. My developed sites always point to a related PR10 page.
- Coding must be validated, with no or minimum errors. All linking, internal and external, must be working properly.
- Backlinks should come from different IPs and if Not reciprocal, the better.
- If you are linking to some site, link just a few times maximum, not from every page nor many times from the same page.
- Placing a Keyword on the Anchor Link as the same Keyword in the Title/H1 Header of the receiving page, the better.
- The more relevant text and the lower amount of coding, the better.
- The origin site as a whole must have good SEO for stronger backlinks to you.
- Your site as well must have good SEO, specially around those keywords, and the site or the page be around one or few major subjects. Talking about everything does not bring good results.

Well, that's all I can remember from memory now.